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13 hours ago, StanSP said:

And squad players are good for us. 

 

The trouble is, he was signed for the first team and we very much paid a first team price.

 

In fact Perez is third on the list of all time record transfers after Youri and Fofana so no, being a squad player at that price is not good. It also means that at some stage we will have to buy yet again for that problem RH side.

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, StanSP said:

The price is not his fault and the right hand side problem is also not his fault considering that's not the position he played at Newcastle either? I don't think he was brought in solely as a right winger, but I could be wrong. To me, he was brought in to deputise and play as an attacking player, but more so centrally coming in from the wing. And recently he's improved since Rodgers seemed to have a little chat with him saying where he needs to be better and train harder. 

 

 

He was very much brought in to play RH side, Rodgers said so unequivocally.  He hinted at bringing in a £30-£50m wide player and after he signed he said that Ayoze was that player.  He has played inside forward rather than winger and played the majority of his Newcastle career on the RH side. 

 

I don't think that we are able to buy £30m+ players to sit on the bench or provide cover and Ayoze joins the list of players that failed on that RH side since Mahrez left.

 

As you say, his price tag is not his fault and it would seem that wide players are the most difficult positions to buy.  We are very fortunate to have a home grown one in Harvey Barnes.

 

 

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Solid squad player who excels in close control and quick flicks, will always be let down by his desire to drop to floor whenever it gets physical. Never gonna be a lone striker considering he's got all the strength and pace of a toddler.

Probably one of the few mistakes we've made in the transfer market in recent seasons, he's an average player signed at an above average price. It's not Perez's fault we paid £30 million for him though so I have absolutely no issues with him. He's been exactly what me and many others probably expected.

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On 10/01/2021 at 09:16, Collymore said:

I think at the time £30m bought you a 6-10 goal a season man which Perez is. Just look at Joelinton who cost Newcastle £40m! It could be worse!

 

 

We did not pay 30m for him. If he hits every metric it'll rise to that, but unlikely. Newcastle were very keen that narrative was out there in the media - it was 16m up front with add ons.

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1 minute ago, Blanchflower78 said:

Certainly impacted both games positively for me, great to see.

I think, arguably, since he's been back part of the squad after seemingly disappearing without a trace for a while, we're seeing some of his best performances in a Leicester shirt, albeit from the bench. He's a very technically gifted player and I think his price tag makes him a scapegoat for many.

No he's not a £30million player, but the price tag isn't his fault. But he is great to have around the squad and allows us to change our dynamic a little. He's a bit like James Justin but in attack. Can play left, right or central, up top or just behind. I'm certain that if he cost even half of what he did, he wouldn't get as much stick.

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1 hour ago, Chocolate Teapot said:

We did not pay 30m for him. If he hits every metric it'll rise to that, but unlikely. Newcastle were very keen that narrative was out there in the media - it was 16m up front with add ons.

Ahh thanks, even better value then. 

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1 hour ago, Blue ROI said:

Decent showings against Southampton and Chelsea for me.

 

He hasn't hit the heights expected but he's a very decent squad player to call upon.

 

I think he is a very good player. He just hasn’t hit the “heights expected” because he only gets the odd minutes here and there unlike favourite sons like Maddison and previously Chilwell who are automatically on teamsheet regardless.

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2 minutes ago, Tom12345 said:

I think he is a very good player. He just hasn’t hit the “heights expected” because he only gets the odd minutes here and there unlike favourite sons like Maddison and previously Chilwell who are automatically on teamsheet regardless.

It's certainly not for only having the 'odd minutes' here and there, did you miss last season, he started and played a huge number of games and had ample opportunity to impress and didn't. Rodgers has been extremely fair with him. Also, the reason Maddison is playing is not because he's a 'favourite son' as you put it, it's simply because he's a far superior player. There would be a host of other Premiership teams that would want to sign Maddison at the right price if they could, but I can't think of one that would realistically want to buy Perez as I don't think he'd be that much of an improvement on what even West Brom or Sheffield United have.

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2 hours ago, Chocolate Teapot said:

We did not pay 30m for him. If he hits every metric it'll rise to that, but unlikely. Newcastle were very keen that narrative was out there in the media - it was 16m up front with add ons.

You got the source for that? First I've ever heard of it being 16 million up front. Weird for a buy out clause to have those kind of installments/bonuses added in I'd have thought.

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8 minutes ago, filbertway said:

You got the source for that? First I've ever heard of it being 16 million up front. Weird for a buy out clause to have those kind of installments/bonuses added in I'd have thought.

I don't know if it's accurate, but it's certainly something discussed on FT before.

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13 minutes ago, filbertway said:

You got the source for that? First I've ever heard of it being 16 million up front. Weird for a buy out clause to have those kind of installments/bonuses added in I'd have thought.

The release clause was £16m. Both us and Valencia triggered it, but we paid over that (£20m-ish) to get the deal done and included performance based add-ons too. 

 

I dunno what the exact figures were and can't provide a source but just remember Newcastle fans being surprised how low the release clause was then surprised Sky were reporting it was £30m deal a few weeks after the clause came to light. 

 

Edit: This is also really tenuous and I'm not using this as my source but Football Manager is pretty accurate on transfer dealings and contract clauses. They have it down as £20m fee on there with add-ons too. That's the best source I can note lol 

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12 minutes ago, filbertway said:

You got the source for that? First I've ever heard of it being 16 million up front. Weird for a buy out clause to have those kind of installments/bonuses added in I'd have thought.

I remember when the deal was announced Percy’s initial report said fee of £16m. He changed it very soon after. He may have known something but was told to change it.

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4 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

I don't know if it's accurate, but it's certainly something discussed on FT before.

I've google Perez Leicester 30 million and Perez Leicester 16 million.

 

The first search returned results from well known outlets. The second search returned results from some little home made blog websites :D

 

So I'll stick with 30 till I see something a bit more reputable

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