splinterdream 763 Posted 31 January Report Share Posted 31 January 3 minutes ago, RGFox said: Funny how the pundits seem to miss these when talking about our good business. Tbf every club will do good and bad business and it's the risk we take. But perez is a fairly known quantity. Just been so pi$$ poor. Such an odd out of the blue signing, and for that amount of money, bit like rachid the winger that couldn't beat a man, I remember reading people on here saying he was rubbish, same with Musa. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Corky 14,968 Posted 31 January Report Share Posted 31 January 4 minutes ago, Spiritwalker said: He’s decent backup for Maddison and we need a decent backup for Maddison. It’s not really his fault that we have failed to sign a decent backup for Vardy. Iheanacho also played well in that role towards the end of last season when Maddison was injured. To be honest I think Barnes is presently the best option to cover for Vardy. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
murphy 7,094 Posted 31 January Report Share Posted 31 January (edited) 18 minutes ago, RGFox said: Funny how the pundits seem to miss these when talking about our good business. Tbf every club will do good and bad business and it's the risk we take. But perez is a fairly known quantity. Just been so pi$$ poor. Yes, that's why he tops that list of flops for me. He was very much a known quantity at Newcastle and an entirely bizarre choice imo. Not his fault, he didn't buy himself and he didn't set the price but it is one we got very, very wrong and there was no excuse for it. He is pretty much the same player here that he was at Newcastle just without the goals. I also think that his fee coupled with the suspicion that he was Rodgers' pick means that we suffered twice because we have persisted with him to the detriment of the team when his race should have been run here. At least the other's on that list came from foreign leagues so it is more difficult to have known whether they would have made it in the Premier League. Edited 31 January by murphy 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
splinterdream 763 Posted 31 January Report Share Posted 31 January 38 minutes ago, UHDrive said: Thoroughly agree. I'd say on tuesday I'd go with; Schmeichel/Fofana/Soyuncu/Evans/JJ/Ricky/Mendy/Tielemans/Maddison/Under/Barnes. I wouldn't even go with a recognised striker as I think with that formation any of the wingers and Tielemans and Maddison are capable of scoring and also transitioning in general play than say Perez. I say that as I thought perez actually got in the way of the attacking players at times today and broke play down. One other thing is how to stretch the pitch with no recognised forward so I'd prefer the back 3 to sit a little deeper to give the midfield more room to catch up with the wingers in play in the final 3rd. I like it, but what do you say to nacho and Perez? You're basically telling them neither are good enough to play, I just wonder how you manage that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot 1,413 Posted 31 January Popular Post Report Share Posted 31 January I just think give nacho the chance on Wednesday. If you're brendan tell him play well against Fulham and the spot is yours for the next few games and you'll have more involvement in the Premier league and start the Cup matches, give him a goal and I'm sure he'll perform well. He's by far our best option imo. 11 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Collymore 4,169 Posted 31 January Report Share Posted 31 January I think it's a bit harsh to criticise Ayoze, I don't think it's his fault he's been asked to play where he is, and it's not as if he's not trying. What I find baffling is that Brendan is still going with it when it's obvious it's not working. He has axed Nacho for not being a lot worse, if being worse at all. it's all quite confusing. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guy 148 Posted 31 January Report Share Posted 31 January 5 minutes ago, Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot said: I just think give nacho the chance on Wednesday. If you're brendan tell him play well against Fulham and the spot is yours for the next few games and you'll have more involvement in the Premier league and start the Cup matches, give him a goal and I'm sure he'll perform well. He's by far our best option imo. I think half the trouble with Nacho (beyond the is he even good enough to play at this level debate), was that unlike Perez, he wasn't a "Brendan signing". Not sure if that is a hindrance here for him as much as Vardy's on going form in all of Nacho's time here or not but I'd imagine it doesn't help his cause as regards starting games, whereas Perez seems to get played and starts more regularly - even when Vardy is fit and not injured on the sidelines... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
deep blue 775 Posted 31 January Report Share Posted 31 January But we don't have any idea what Perez was told about what his role here would be when he was signed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
deep blue 775 Posted 31 January Report Share Posted 31 January 1 minute ago, deep blue said: But we don't have any idea what Perez was told about what his role here would be when he was signed. Sorry - that was in reply to Collymore's point above. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pliskin 3,060 Posted 31 January Report Share Posted 31 January Just now, deep blue said: Sorry - that was in reply to Collymore's point above. He must have been told to be gash... because he has been. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UHDrive 758 Posted 31 January Report Share Posted 31 January 18 minutes ago, splinterdream said: I like it, but what do you say to nacho and Perez? You're basically telling them neither are good enough to play, I just wonder how you manage that? The manager took off Castagna today because he needed Ricky to excel in that position and Castagna wasnt. Going by that analogy I'd say BR would manage that pretty easily. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
honeybradger 796 Posted 31 January Report Share Posted 31 January Just now, UHDrive said: The manager took off Castagna today because he needed Ricky to excel in that position and Castagna wasnt. Going by that analogy I'd say BR would manage that pretty easily. I thought castagne was injured? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Collymore 4,169 Posted 31 January Report Share Posted 31 January 2 minutes ago, Guy said: I think half the trouble with Nacho (beyond the is he even good enough to play at this level debate), was that unlike Perez, he wasn't a "Brendan signing". Not sure if that is a hindrance here for him as much as Vardy's on going form in all of Nacho's time here or not but I'd imagine it doesn't help his cause as regards starting games, whereas Perez seems to get played and starts more regularly - even when Vardy is fit and not injured on the sidelines... Yeah it could be as simple as that. Easier to drop a big money signing you didn't sign, that's probably why Slimani has been axed so many times by multiple managers despite costing a bomb. Nacho seems to have sealed his fate with that penalty miss, it looks like it's the straw that broke the camel's back maybe. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lee7 437 Posted 31 January Report Share Posted 31 January What is his preferred position? He is ineffective outwide and non existent as the main striker. One really good game in every 10 just does not cut it. He takes up some good positions and his movement can be good but he is either let down by a woeful first touch and terrible balance or he just hasn't got the pace to get away from anyone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UHDrive 758 Posted 31 January Report Share Posted 31 January 1 minute ago, honeybradger said: I thought castagne was injured? No, off the pace and ran up to take his seat with the team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chocolate Teapot 4,334 Posted 31 January Report Share Posted 31 January What is his actual position? Been told he's not a right winger or a striker....a number 10? Praet and Maddison are both better than him, which is going to limit his opportunities. He's a very random signing in hindsight. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxile5 2,758 Posted 31 January Report Share Posted 31 January 23 minutes ago, Collymore said: I think it's a bit harsh to criticise Ayoze, I don't think it's his fault he's been asked to play where he is, and it's not as if he's not trying. What I find baffling is that Brendan is still going with it when it's obvious it's not working. He has axed Nacho for not being a lot worse, if being worse at all. it's all quite confusing. I'm not Nachos biggest fan but last season he looked good, Rodgers was getting a tune out of him. Seems weird that he should be cast aside when we could most use him. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AKCJ 15,545 Posted 31 January Report Share Posted 31 January 4 hours ago, Hollyfox said: So he was in our top 6 or 7 players? He was in our top 5 best players. I would say only Tielemans, Schmeichel, Albrighton and Barnes were better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheF1Bob 109 Posted 31 January Report Share Posted 31 January Can't believe we're arguing who to start between Iheanacho and Perez... 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
splinterdream 763 Posted 31 January Report Share Posted 31 January 27 minutes ago, UHDrive said: The manager took off Castagna today because he needed Ricky to excel in that position and Castagna wasnt. Going by that analogy I'd say BR would manage that pretty easily. I'm pretty sure Castagne was injured Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dr The Singh 5,153 Posted 31 January Report Share Posted 31 January 7 minutes ago, TheF1Bob said: Can't believe we're arguing who to start between Iheanacho and Perez... Sad state of affairs 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ricey 2,321 Posted 31 January Report Share Posted 31 January Perez was ok in the first half, but it was bizzare not to have more runners beyond him. Barnes was causing Leeds trouble on one side, we needed the equivalent on the other side. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fuchsntf 6,199 Posted 31 January Report Share Posted 31 January 10 minutes ago, TheF1Bob said: Can't believe we're arguing who to start between Iheanacho and Perez... 2 minutes ago, Dr The Singh said: Sad state of affairs Despite that, we are competing with the Top 3-6.... The Recruitment Team are just Not backing Rodgers by finding any quality incoming..also it may not be their fault in these awkward times. Too many fans acting as if there isnt a Problem outside in the big wide world, rebounding also around football....Bit What can a manager so when both Nacho & Perez have received Good ball then fluffed their lines. He has to to give Player A/B decent runs,so far only 2-3 games with Perez, in this position... No manager sees it, like the fans, and no fan sees the worries like the other...Bit So far we have a mixture of fans Posting they prefer, to See Nacho,Barnes,Under, Uncle Joe Cobbly at CF, or false 9. Then the super know alls, tells us obviously..Rodgers has to sort it out.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dr The Singh 5,153 Posted 31 January Report Share Posted 31 January 2 minutes ago, fuchsntf said: Despite that, we are competing with the Top 3-6.... The Recruitment Team are just Not backing Rodgers by finding any quality incoming..also it may not be their fault in these awkward times. Too many fans acting as if there isnt a Problem outside in the big wide world, rebounding also around football....Bit What can a manager so when both Nacho & Perez have received Good ball then fluffed their lines. He has to to give Player A/B decent runs,so far only 2-3 games with Perez, in this position... No manager sees it, like the fans, and no fan sees the worries like the other...Bit So far we have a mixture of fans Posting they prefer, to See Nacho,Barnes,Under, Uncle Joe Cobbly at CF, or false 9. Then the super know alls, tells us obviously..Rodgers has to sort it out.... Give Amartey a chance, that's how shameful we are. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
moore_94 5,662 Posted 31 January Report Share Posted 31 January 1 hour ago, UHDrive said: The manager took off Castagna today because he needed Ricky to excel in that position and Castagna wasnt. Going by that analogy I'd say BR would manage that pretty easily. 1 hour ago, honeybradger said: I thought castagne was injured? 33 minutes ago, splinterdream said: I'm pretty sure Castagne was injured He was 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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