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9 hours ago, Alan Frost said:

I don't really understand why people are so worried about 1 player in a 27 player squad. I look at it this way , maybe wrongly ,and I need correcting. We have 3 goalkeeprs i excellent, i very competent IMO and another guy, i have n't watched. We have 10 defenders of whom 6 are either of international class IMO or very close to it, and two who most of us agreed stepped up recently and did an excellent job. The other 2 are a bit older but can manage an effective cameo or as in Jonny Evans case can still play 2 matches in 48 hours at a very very high standard. Whatever formation Brendan decides to play he's probably never going to need more than 6 defenders and in our case the fact that Justin and Castagne are so flexible . and one of those who stepped up seems to be developing the same way and flexibly, means we're ok for defensive( and goalkeeper) cover.

MF we're a little weaker but Youri,Madison,Mark Albrighton,Wilf Ndidi,are worth a place in practically any PL team's midfield . Mendy and Harvey Barnes have stepped up impressively when asked most of us seem to agree. I have n't seem Pereira much lately but given our excess in defence we 'd have to be extremely unfortunate if Pereira could n't be added to the MF either as a ball winner or creator. WEll thats 6+1 midfielders which slould cater for any formation Brendan wants to employ. Now thats a goalkeeper , 5 defenders and 7  midfielders none of whom are going to significantly weaken the team. Hang on that's  13 clubs I've got in my bag already and I've got 1 good goalie,, one excellent defender, and maybe the best striker in the PL i can't put in with an 11 club limit.

Just as well, in  strikers we're not so rich. 1 excellent . on playing effectiveness he'd be welcome in practically any PL team plus Perez, Iheanacho and I think one other. Well defensively and MF we're well off and I would have thought maybe Harvey Barnes could feel he can already fill a strikers role. I got told off recently for not being aware KDH was a MF, well apparently at Blackpool where I never watched him in life or on video he did pretty well for goals , what ever that means, and the goal someone posted recently where he killed a high ball at his feet and than shot with his left foot--I think almost earned a strker tag on its own. I know he's listed as MF but I would certainly think he's worth trying as a striker but only if we genuinely have a problem. Unfortunately with 1 GK, 9 defenders,5 midfielders, and 2 strikers when am I going to try him? There are a few others listed in our squad who I would be happy to play for a few  matches. Given our alternatives one reasonable player added to  the other 10 during an injury i don't think significantly weakens any team. We've been through far worse recently, we're still 4th and well in touch, we've played a very good FA cup match and breezed through it and we have n't even hit any home form yet.

I've maybe over simplified a bit but I really don 't see that we're F---ed, buggered, into a disaster or anything else too alarming.In fact I think I might have forgotten the odd useful player anyway Edit Cengiz Under , don't know how I forgot him, not totally proven yet but I'd bet on him.

I live in Scotland ,don't have Sky, or BT sport so have to rely on MOTD..youtube and LCFC videos (was on amazon Prime at NY/Xmas but the football stopped--bastards) and the odd live match but thats how the view looks to me from here.

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Apart from the Crystal Palace match where he played 60 odd minutes, you have to go all the way back to November against Wolves (which feels a lifetime a go) since Praet played a full match in the Premier League. 

 

He's played plenty of minutes in the Europa though...

 

I have a feeling injured or not he wouldn't have been playing tomorrow so at least in the short-term his injury shouldn't affect us. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Collymore said:

Apart from the Crystal Palace match where he played 60 odd minutes, you have to go all the way back to November against Wolves (which feels a lifetime a go) since Praet played a full match in the Premier League. 

 

He's played plenty of minutes in the Europa though...

 

I have a feeling injured or not he wouldn't have been playing tomorrow so at least in the short-term his injury shouldn't affect us. 

 

 

My feeling too.I feel for Praet and he's a loss but the man who picks the team and knows much more than me obviously does n't regard Dennis as  a "monster', "crippling" or "desperate" loss,whatever he says. I believe we even have reasonable cover for Thielemans. another run of 2 or 3 injuries and I won't feel as confident but that would be unlucky .I would be even more concerned if JV was one of 2/3 serious injuries but as I tried to show in my recent post there are possible solutions to even that,. 

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I disagree, he is a loss. He may not have been playing tomorrow but he may have come on as a sub for Madders to keep him fresh. He most certainly would have played the FA cup games and the Europa games.  Youri cannot play everything! Hopefully the phrasing of up to 3 months is a worse case and it may be a little sooner and I'm sure that accounts for recovery and rehabilitation too.  I'm sure they will not rush him back either given Brendan said they would recuperate him properly. I think the lesson has been learnt with rushing players back and although its frustrating I'm pleased Ricardo, Timmy, Cags etc. were given time to heal properly. 

 

I bet he is kicking himself that he pushed to get that goal in the last couple of minutes but it shows how much that goal would have meant to him. Gutted for him.

 

Get well soon Dennis!

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I think Dennis is going to be a huge loss for us. We should be getting through to the FA cup quarter finals, and have every chance of getting through to the quarters of the europa league, as well as fighting for a top 6 prem spot. Being able to rotate players is going to be key.

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I was surprised that surgery was not mentioned in any of the reports I read.

 

Typically, three months of projected recovery time implies a surgical remedy to the problem.

 

One report claimed a torn hamstring.  Another reported Brendan as stating that it is a tendon issue.

 

Either way, best wishes for a speedy recovery to Dennis!

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8 minutes ago, lnkstern said:

I was surprised that surgery was not mentioned in any of the reports I read.

 

Typically, three months of projected recovery time implies a surgical remedy to the problem.

 

One report claimed a torn hamstring.  Another reported Brendan as stating that it is a tendon issue.

 

Either way, best wishes for a speedy recovery to Dennis!

3 months is pretty typical for a torn hamstring. Speaking from experience it takes a long time to heal!!! I came back a little early and I’ve never recovered. My first tear was about 7 years ago. A true rat of an injury 

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49 minutes ago, Hales said:

I think it's more surgical if it comes away from the bone. This is a torn tendon. It can take a couple of weeks at least for swelling and bruising externally to go down. Light physio work can then begin but it will be a while before he can run. Probably on crutches at the moment. The 3 months will factor in physio and training to get fitness back so not too long when you factor all of that in. He may be ready sooner but as they have shown with others they won't rush him as it can only make thing worse in the long run. Lots of rest, ice, compression and elevating it for him!

 

I work in healthcare so injuries interest me 😂

...a bit of RICE never harms anyone......!!!

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11 hours ago, Collymore said:

Apart from the Crystal Palace match where he played 60 odd minutes, you have to go all the way back to November against Wolves (which feels a lifetime a go) since Praet played a full match in the Premier League. 

 

He's played plenty of minutes in the Europa though...

 

I have a feeling injured or not he wouldn't have been playing tomorrow so at least in the short-term his injury shouldn't affect us. 

While he may not have started tomorrow, I think it's likely he would have played.

Having Under (though a different type of player) back from injury however helps.

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Bit of a curve ball but, if Pereira comes back very quickly to full effectiveness, would it be possible for Justin to be pushed up to fill Praet's role?  Yet another unfamiliar position, it's true, but his energy and combatitiveness lend themselves to our needs in this position, and he has been phenomenal in his adaptability and ability to learn quickly.

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19 minutes ago, deep blue said:

Bit of a curve ball but, if Pereira comes back very quickly to full effectiveness, would it be possible for Justin to be pushed up to fill Praet's role?  Yet another unfamiliar position, it's true, but his energy and combatitiveness lend themselves to our needs in this position, and he has been phenomenal in his adaptability and ability to learn quickly.

...certainly has come on this season, down to game time and his ability to take on and implement instructions!!!

The Praet role requires acquired knowledge and the ability to read the game and is mired in the intelligence of movement. We cannot put him in a situation that requires such nuances of game play, round pegs in round holes and only that will do.

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28 minutes ago, deep blue said:

Bit of a curve ball but, if Pereira comes back very quickly to full effectiveness, would it be possible for Justin to be pushed up to fill Praet's role?  Yet another unfamiliar position, it's true, but his energy and combatitiveness lend themselves to our needs in this position, and he has been phenomenal in his adaptability and ability to learn quickly.

or vice versa?

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19 hours ago, Hales said:

I think it's more surgical if it comes away from the bone. This is a torn tendon. It can take a couple of weeks at least for swelling and bruising externally to go down. Light physio work can then begin but it will be a while before he can run. Probably on crutches at the moment. The 3 months will factor in physio and training to get fitness back so not too long when you factor all of that in. He may be ready sooner but as they have shown with others they won't rush him as it can only make thing worse in the long run. Lots of rest, ice, compression and elevating it for him!

 

I work in healthcare so injuries interest me 😂

Quarantine in the Cryo chamber?

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18 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...certainly has come on this season, down to game time and his ability to take on and implement instructions!!!

The Praet role requires acquired knowledge and the ability to read the game and is mired in the intelligence of movement. We cannot put him in a situation that requires such nuances of game play, round pegs in round holes and only that will do.

That's a fair view and a good point. I guess my suggestion relies on the fact that since Justin is so adaptable it's not such a case of "square pegs in round holes" as it would be with most players.  Justin seems to be able to quickly manoeuvre the hole into the shape that suits him.

 

I certainly like the grit, competitiveness and drive that he could inject. Our midfield seems to lack those in some games.

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He’s in everyone’s match day squad - 100%

 

Hes in about 20% of people’s starting line up (he’s not displacing Tielemans or Maddison for most)
 

He’s sorely missed as he can start v a deep lying side and push away with Maddison and he’s a fantastic option off the bench or if someone ahead of him has got a knock…

 

His being out is not a killer blow, but a significant scar I’d suggest 

 

 

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1 hour ago, SO1 said:

Quarantine in the Cryo chamber?

To be fair if you are going to get injured that training ground is a pretty immense place to recover - cryo chamber, pool, plunge pools, sauna, physios, food cooked for you. I'd move in! 🤩😄

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On 17/01/2021 at 01:20, UHDrive said:

Stupid question but If you tear a hamstring and it heals then can the scar tissue affect your footballing after? 

 

Hes going to be a massive loss. I've always rated him and we'll miss him.

The key thing is not rushing back too soon, which often happens with hamstring injuries.  If he lets it heal fully it shouldn't be a long-term issue.

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12 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

Imagine being Dennis, having sustained a nasty injury just as the team goes into (so it seems) overdrive. That's got to be tough. Hope that he is well managed through his recuperation.

I know, bless him! There is a place for him when he is back though as Youri is going to be shattered. I'm sure he is still involved at the training ground and watching the home matches at the ground. Must be hard being the only one injured too in recovery on your own. 

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Probably get slapped down for this suggestion, but if Tielemans were to be injured, with Soyuncu now available, would it be worth experimenting with Fofana as a replacement? Seems to like going forward, is comfortable on the ball, good range of passing, and still young enough to learn new roles. Either that or as someone suggested, JJ.

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