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On 10/01/2020 at 13:14, bmt said:

You're a moron.

 

Has no footballing ability - bad defending/opposition or not I dare you to watch this video (obviously you won't because you have no interest in anything except moaning against a home grown player): 

 

 

I would suggest that he had a poor game the other night (although not as bad as people make out), but he's been better than people make out this season and certainly most of last season. I think him being forced to make the easy pass recently has been due to poor movement from others as much as it has been from him.

 

He looks best when he hits the byline or when he drives inside which both work better when we break quickly. When we did against Villa players were so behind the pace he lacked the option to do either. Praet also was looking around with nobody to pass to when he was on in the first half, and ended up passing it backwards usually. Fuchs was also off the pace, he's a good defender and really good backup but he is definitely not what we need. Also Justin is right footed, he's decent cover but you can't be playing right backs at left back, it makes no sense.

Look at the opposition you have cited; Montenegro! 

 

All your examples of odd things he may have done well, do not counteract mistakes and his inabilities.

 

For clarity; if there are four easy clearances to make and he deals with three of them but ****s up the fourth; that scenario does not mean he is a good defender. He has been at fault for countless goals even this season.Obviously can’t see or grasp that, which far from me being a moron; makes you the moron.

 

The same goes by the way for his distribution, which has never been any good in the round (remember what’s written above - one good cross or assist out of 20 opportunities is not the level that makes him good at it) and this season he is without doubt atrocious.


I’m sorry to say you’ve made yourself look very silly given yesterday’s events where he delivered another appalling performance which makes your version of Chilwell’s credentials laughable.

 

I said this for two or three years and it remains, that his only credible attribute at this level is his pace.

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He is not improving any longer and has got very negative in his decision making, probably following BRs instructions to keep the ball.

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Sell the traitor quickly before they work out how poor he actually is.  If he doesn't want to be at my club he can get lost he needs booing every game until he leaves.

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33 minutes ago, The whole world smiles said:

Is this based on anything besides stupidity?

Certain comments have been made that hes had his head turn, known 'for a fact'.

 

I'm not buying it personally. Hes had plenty of chances to leave in his career before now and not had that problem.

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I ain't having that he's had his head turned. He's just a young lad who's had a rough few weeks and has the fans on his back because of it, which is obviously making it harder for him. I don't think he's as good as some make out, but he's one of the best left backs in the league when on form. Lets give him a game or two off, take him out of the spotlight and let him play his way back into the team (much like Tielemans).

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1 hour ago, Abrasive fox said:

Certain comments have been made that hes had his head turn, known 'for a fact'.

 

I'm not buying it personally. Hes had plenty of chances to leave in his career before now and not had that problem.

Huddersfield wanted him didn't they 👍🏻

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If he plays badly, yet puts effort in a player should never be booed. However if he plays badly because he’s not trying and no longer wants to be at the club, the fans have every right to get at him a bit. I’m not saying this is what has happened with Chilwell, as only he knows what he wants. If this is a confidence thing though we must get behind him as he will never get it back. 

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3 hours ago, nettle said:

Huddersfield wanted him didn't they 👍🏻

Liverpool. Wasn't Klopp an admirer at one point. He'll end up going to Man City but half the posters on this forum think he's shit so they obviously know more than Klopp and Pep.

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21 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Liverpool. Wasn't Klopp an admirer at one point. He'll end up going to Man City but half the posters on this forum think he's shit so they obviously no more than Klopp and Pep.

He's not shit he's just a bit passive as a defender for my liking but to be honest he'd fit in well at Man city with the way they control possession.

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23 minutes ago, Fox92 said:

Liverpool. Wasn't Klopp an admirer at one point. He'll end up going to Man City but half the posters on this forum think he's shit so they obviously no more than Klopp and Pep.

Well we certainly knew more about Drinkwater than Chelsea did.:yesyes:

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3 minutes ago, TRAD-DAD said:

Well we certainly knew more about Drinkwater than Chelsea did.:yesyes:

Don't really think Conte wanted him tbh.

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28 minutes ago, nettle said:

He's not shit he's just a bit passive as a defender for my liking but to be honest he'd fit in well at Man city with the way they control possession.

How would he fit in well at controlling possession at Man City when he loses the ball constantly

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He was more or less moving to Man City in the summer, terms agreed etc. 

 

So the discussion of him having his head turned is futile, he was a whisper away from gone. 

 

Apparently ;)

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I can't believe we'd be stupid enough to sign Luke Shaw. There must be about 100 better left backs on the continent for cheaper.

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3 hours ago, Dan LCFC said:

Funny how whenever a player of ours is linked with Arsenal it's "don't go there, their fans are toxic". We hit a new low with that on Saturday for me. I get he was bad but it was an absolute disgrace to be honest. Thoroughly embarrassing behaviour and it's hardly the kind of thing that'll make people want to stick around either.

Bang on.
Now let’s wait for the but they are "men/professional athletes/paid a fortune/there-as-my-personal-point-of-frustration" faux justification type comments.

He is out of form, it happens, let’s support him and may be get some longer term competition into the squad.

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We need FIFA (the computer game) to introduce ‘form’ and ‘mood’ and personal issues so that people of an age appreciate that these guys aren’t robots .... if they already have these features then there’s no excuse!

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9 hours ago, Dan LCFC said:

Funny how whenever a player of ours is linked with Arsenal it's "don't go there, their fans are toxic". We hit a new low with that on Saturday for me. I get he was bad but it was an absolute disgrace to be honest. Thoroughly embarrassing behaviour and it's hardly the kind of thing that'll make people want to stick around either.

Thats Why there is a wave of forum Members,that cant Pick a player...only Pick fault...!!! Then Hide behind the right to an opinion's-mask..!!!

We just go too far....If seems mobbing,and Kicking in consistent negative campaigns,is an expected entitlement in Today s modern Social Media envroment....!!

 

All players,must like all of us Adapti to criticism,its Part of life,and maturing,founded or unfounded..!!!! But many supporters peck Away Too much like mother hens,and are Not Mature in thought,when to Let it go and Let it rest....They have lost any idea..of the Base ,which is support to encourage.....and to Stand behind,when things are Not Running as one would like and percieves...It is easy to manage , support even brag,when all runs according to the individuals ideology,just as it is to Fall immediate into frustrating,immature emotional Blame Syndrome when not...!!!

 

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5 hours ago, fuchsntf said:

Thats Why there is a wave of forum Members,that cant Pick a player...only Pick fault...!!! Then Hide behind the right to an opinion's-mask..!!!

We just go too far....If seems mobbing,and Kicking in consistent negative campaigns,is an expected entitlement in Today s modern Social Media envroment....!!

 

All players,must like all of us Adapti to criticism,its Part of life,and maturing,founded or unfounded..!!!! But many supporters peck Away Too much like mother hens,and are Not Mature in thought,when to Let it go and Let it rest....They have lost any idea..of the Base ,which is support to encourage.....and to Stand behind,when things are Not Running as one would like and percieves...It is easy to manage , support even brag,when all runs according to the individuals ideology,just as it is to Fall immediate into frustrating,immature emotional Blame Syndrome when not...!!!

 

I do think it's a bit different on a football forum, don't go too overboard but this is effectively the equivalent of the pub, granted it's different as you can track exactly what people have said. It's a discussion forum so I think it's fair to point out weaknesses or whatever on here.

 

In the heat of the moment in a game though, so actively turn on your own players - I'm not defending anything about the performance Saturday but what exactly is it going to achieve?

 

Terrible support.

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I couldn't believe how many posts I saw of FB literally spewing hatred towards the guy, fans saying he's garbage, it's utterly ridiculous and embarrassing, I'm sure they follow the team by listening on the radio. 

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