Popular Post StanSP 26,210 Posted 4 October 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted 4 October 2020 Just now, Corky said: Thomas or Fuchs, I suppose. Then when they don't do well you'll see the following: (for Thomas) - not good enough, needs loaning out, Justin should come back in, needs more experience at a lower level etc... (for Fuchs) - too old, need someone with more pace. Rodgers can't win here with some fans. I know you can't please everyone at the same time but even so, sticking with Justin is the best thing to do in my opinion right now. There's not a chance he's 'league one' level. I'm sure plenty of fans were lapping up his good performances against better opposition. Not to say he doesn't have his limitations (every player does?), but some fans on here can never resist the temptation to go to one extreme and say he's not good enough or never will be. Too many fans these days don't want to give players time to learn or gain that experience in the side. Just look at some of the comments in the Cengiz thread as another example. 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
happy85 545 Posted 4 October 2020 Report Share Posted 4 October 2020 He not good enough. We need a LB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RowlattsFox 2,210 Posted 4 October 2020 Report Share Posted 4 October 2020 Needs to find consistency, today was a bad day and unfortunately he plays in one of our most crucial position. Need to have options to change him on a bad day, may as well put Fuchs on in the second half. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KFS 2,984 Posted 4 October 2020 Report Share Posted 4 October 2020 The amount of times today he controlled the ball out of play was laughable. Not a left back, but we knew that didn’t we? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Corky 12,836 Posted 4 October 2020 Report Share Posted 4 October 2020 2 minutes ago, KFS said: The amount of times today he controlled the ball out of play was laughable. Not a left back, but we knew that didn’t we? The Chilwell Effect 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dmayne7 1,029 Posted 4 October 2020 Report Share Posted 4 October 2020 Really need a left footed player there as Barnes is coming to come inside into the space and whilst Justin's left foot is ok, he still needs and wants to take a touch on his right before going on the outside. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FoxesWalk 243 Posted 4 October 2020 Report Share Posted 4 October 2020 Justin the new scapegoat then? Got a lot of stick during the City game early on too, couldn’t see it myself, was excellent last week 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Chrysalis 882 Posted 4 October 2020 Report Share Posted 4 October 2020 (edited) It was clear he will be a scapegoat, Chilwell was so popular, whoever replaces him was always going to be in for a hiding. Every time he makes one mistake people are going to jump on him. Yet Chilwell made 10+ a game, and if you dared mention it, his team would jump on you. Edited 4 October 2020 by Chrysalis Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matty98 1,727 Posted 4 October 2020 Report Share Posted 4 October 2020 People are so reactionary, Justin's done fine since he's been playing. We all know he's the backup fullback to Ricardo and Castagne and as far as back ups go he's pretty good. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
splinterdream 731 Posted 4 October 2020 Report Share Posted 4 October 2020 I think Thomas has been alright, I don't think Justin is any better, Thomas needs games and he'll improve, he can certainly cross a ball better than Justin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nnfox 1,165 Posted 4 October 2020 Report Share Posted 4 October 2020 Every player's performance fluctuates. JJ has had some very good performances. Today he was poor. That doesn't make him a bad player. He has some way to go (further than some of the others) but there is clearly a player in there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Foxy_Bear 2,102 Posted 4 October 2020 Report Share Posted 4 October 2020 3 minutes ago, matty98 said: People are so reactionary, Justin's done fine since he's been playing. We all know he's the backup fullback to Ricardo and Castagne and as far as back ups go he's pretty good. Completely disagree. Other than a good second half against Man City, he's been poor this season. Not physically strong enough and positioning is atrocious. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ParkerPen 164 Posted 4 October 2020 Report Share Posted 4 October 2020 the lad has shown plenty of ability and is worth the time and effort to persevere with him. also he is neither first choice LB or RB assuming everyone is fit. finished article premier league players dont cost £8m from Luton if we dont give players time to improve then we might as well forget it, because u cant expect a 25 man squad of first team quality players bought 'off the peg' 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
matty98 1,727 Posted 4 October 2020 Report Share Posted 4 October 2020 13 minutes ago, Foxy_Bear said: Completely disagree. Other than a good second half against Man City, he's been poor this season. Not physically strong enough and positioning is atrocious. He's cost a couple of goals sure but he's also made atleast a couple and scored one so balances itself out really. Personally don't think we can ask for much more from a 2nd choice player. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ross 'LCFC' Turner 767 Posted 4 October 2020 Report Share Posted 4 October 2020 Our fullbacks for some reason today didn’t drive forwards like they have been doing, they have been the key to our success so far! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fightforever 817 Posted 4 October 2020 Report Share Posted 4 October 2020 1 minute ago, Ross 'LCFC' Turner said: Our fullbacks for some reason today didn’t drive forwards like they have been doing, they have been the key to our success so far! They blocked the space out wide and forced us in the middle where we only had two midfielders that's why imo 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Sunbury Fox 1,423 Posted 4 October 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted 4 October 2020 Let's cut this lad some slack. He had a poor game today but he wasn't alone in that. He is still learning the game at this level so will make mistakes but personally i think he shows a lot of promise and has had some good games too, despite being thrown in at the deep end earlier than planned. 6 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
splinterdream 731 Posted 4 October 2020 Report Share Posted 4 October 2020 1 hour ago, Fightforever said: They blocked the space out wide and forced us in the middle where we only had two midfielders that's why imo we should have gone 4-4-2 much sooner with wide overlapping runs 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
daddylonglegs 878 Posted 6 October 2020 Report Share Posted 6 October 2020 On 04/10/2020 at 14:20, The whole world smiles said: The whole point of squad players is that they are starting options when better players are injured and at the moment Ricardo is injured. so your statement is a bit of contradiction. Dunno. Feel like squad player can be someone who comes in as and when there's an injury, they shouldn't be relied upon to start more than 5-10 games a year. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wolfox 4,360 Posted 6 October 2020 Report Share Posted 6 October 2020 (edited) On 04/10/2020 at 17:29, matty98 said: People are so reactionary, Justin's done fine since he's been playing. We all know he's the backup fullback to Ricardo and Castagne and as far as back ups go he's pretty good. Indeed Important points to note to those who’ve declared “he’s not good enough” - he wasn’t good enough in his last game (agreed) - He was plenty good enough in many other games he’s played in - He’s young with plenty of opportunity to develop and improve under a proven coach I think he’ll come good and he’s shown enough to deserve our patience Edited 6 October 2020 by Wolfox 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
justfoxes 1,651 Posted 6 October 2020 Report Share Posted 6 October 2020 23 minutes ago, Wolfox said: Indeed Important points to note to those who’ve declared “he’s not good enough” - he wasn’t good enough in his last game (agreed) - He was plenty good enough in many other games he’s played in - He’s young with plenty of opportunity to develop and improve under a proven coach I think he’ll come good and he’s shown enough to deserve our patience He really needs to spend a bit of time in the gym needs to bulk up a bit far too lightweight easily pushed of the ball but other than that not bad for a lad who came in from Luton cost us only £8m, the lad needs a bit more guidance game time I think he’ll be ok in the future ! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fox_up_north 548 Posted 6 October 2020 Report Share Posted 6 October 2020 Tbh I've been reasonably impressed with him. I'm always up for cutting new and young players some slack. If Under had been naff the other day, I wouldn't have held it against him. JJ is 22 and in a run of top flight games where he's not made consistent howlers. Considering what his job is and he's not floundering completely, I'd say I'm fairly happy. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The whole world smiles 4,861 Posted 6 October 2020 Report Share Posted 6 October 2020 3 hours ago, daddylonglegs said: Dunno. Feel like squad player can be someone who comes in as and when there's an injury, they shouldn't be relied upon to start more than 5-10 games a year. You can't predict how many players or will get injured or for how long. It's poitless saying squad players shouldn't shouldn't play more than x amount of games because you never know when you might have a long term Injury like Ricardo's. In an ideal world Justin would be on the bench and Castagne and Ricardo would be starting but hey ho. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bossman Blessed It 373 Posted 6 October 2020 Report Share Posted 6 October 2020 Ideally he wouldn't have been thrown in the deep end but he's handled it excellently in my opinion. When you consider that we're asking an already inexperienced right back to fill in a left back for a team aiming for the top 4 in a league that's two divisions higher than he was playing a year or so ago - JJ has been impressive. Not least the fact that we're missing arguably the best full back in the league, only highlighting his weaknesses further. He's not great positionally yet, but it's noticeable that he's not as good on the left at this level - something he hopefully won't need to do for too much longer in PL at least. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fuchsntf 5,654 Posted 6 October 2020 Report Share Posted 6 October 2020 You are all Bloody mad....!!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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