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8 minutes ago, casablancas said:

Mata, silva, de brunye, Mahrez and reus all have played at the top level and none are blessed with great pace. 

They've been blessed with more natural talent in their little finger than Bowen will ever have though. 

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38 minutes ago, casablancas said:

Mata, silva, de brunye, Mahrez and reus all have played at the top level and none are blessed with great pace. 

Bowen isnt creative though, he is a goal scorer and that is it. Look at his assists record.

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He isn't the quickest but he is a dribbler and scorer at Championship level so if that equates to Premier League level as an easy transition he would for sure be a goodbye to Gray signing.

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To his credit, managers must point him out as the obvious Hull threat before a game, and for a winger to keep finding the net like he is, that’s some record he’s got. 

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15 goals and 4 assists in 22 games for a crap team like Hull, he must have something about him surely .

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2 minutes ago, FerrisBueller said:

Stats are great but there's something about him I'm wary of, and I'm not sure what it is.

 

Lack of pace and the fact that he was attainable in the summer and still didn't get a move.

 

I've not seen him play but judging him on his profile he appears to be a decent signing for a PL club whose ambitions are survival but not for a club with top 4/6 aspirations. 

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4 hours ago, casablancas said:

Mata, silva, de brunye, Mahrez and reus all have played at the top level and none are blessed with great pace. 

I think it's fair to say that those are 5 of the most gifted footballers going. Jarrod Bowen isn't blessed with the ability those blokes have.

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Despite my reservations, we've assembled a sought after squad, where each player has raised their value substantially by taking risks on players before other people do. Whether it's Ricardo being a converted winger, Maddison only having one good season, Tielemans being a flop in France etc etc. 

 

We've been lucky that so many have hit the mark, I can't see the club shifting drastically from that MO though. So someone like him makes sense if they want to continue that route, it would feel like us perhaps not taking advantage of our current position though.

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4 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Despite my reservations, we've assembled a sought after squad, where each player has raised their value substantially by taking risks on players before other people do. Whether it's Ricardo being a converted winger, Maddison only having one good season, Tielemans being a flop in France etc etc. 

 

We've been lucky that so many have hit the mark, I can't see the club shifting drastically from that MO though. So someone like him makes sense if they want to continue that route, it would feel like us perhaps not taking advantage of our current position though.

It's a balance, one of the reasons we take the piss out the likes of Man Utd and Arsenal is because they want to sign the players we've brought in and quickly developed and that's just good scouting on our part and lazy on theirs. We are now in a position to potentially get the players the likes of Dortmund or Liepzig get, the band of talented players that don't initially feature on the radar of the elite or who aren't yet willing to pay decent money for them. We have already attracted the likes of Ndidi, Soyuncu and Benkovic and it's these sorts of players I much prefer to see us going for than paying way over the odds for the likes of Perez or Dunk or Tarkowski had we gone for them.

 

I know we could now probably go and get Zaha but at £60m + I'd feel sick and don't see why we need to change tact. We should just stick to what we're doing and appreciate that we might well have put ourselves in the frame as the go to club for the cream of the crop from the lesser leagues throughout the world.

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While his goal record is great in the championship it's worth noting how huge the step up is. Have we forgotten this?

 

After seeing a few of his goals I have no doubt that he wouldn't get half those chances in the premier league.

 

Like Kelechi for Man City, give him the ball in the right areas and he scores. Ask him to create more chances for himself for Leicester and look at the results, so far.

 

Nugent had a great record in the championship, could never make the step up. History is filled with similar players. Chopra, Bamford etc etc

 

However, I'd the reported fee is correct then it's a risk worth taking. At his age theres more than enough time to improve. It seems that we view 22 as old these days???

For me, take the risk and sign him. If theres an manager than can improve him then its Rodgers. I won't be expecting a lot from him and it would be unfair to do so, but for what is such a low amount in today's game, its worth the punt

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29 minutes ago, Babylon said:

Despite my reservations, we've assembled a sought after squad, where each player has raised their value substantially by taking risks on players before other people do. Whether it's Ricardo being a converted winger, Maddison only having one good season, Tielemans being a flop in France etc etc. 

 

We've been lucky that so many have hit the mark, I can't see the club shifting drastically from that MO though. So someone like him makes sense if they want to continue that route, it would feel like us perhaps not taking advantage of our current position though.

 

No problem bringing him in if we had offers on the table for Gray and Albrighton.

 

I just don't think he's likely to be an improvement on what we have in a position that we're well stocked numerically but lack in top quality. 

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Certainly they'd be an element of risk but every transfer comes with some risk and as long as we've done our due diligence I'm sure it'd be worth going for him. To be fair even if things didn't work out he's young enough that we'll still profit significantly from any future transfer. Furthermore, his stats are way better than Daniel James who just looked like a pace merchant in the Championship and he hasn't done too badly at Man United. Bowen obviously has a different set of attributes to him but from what I've seen of him I personally think he's more than capable of the step up and I genuinely don't think he'd be any worse than Perez, Barnes, Gray, or Albrighton (not that any of them are particularly bad) so I wouldn't be overly concerned if we did make a move for the lad. 

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56 minutes ago, ian_marshall said:

Certainly they'd be an element of risk but every transfer comes with some risk and as long as we've done our due diligence I'm sure it'd be worth going for him. To be fair even if things didn't work out he's young enough that we'll still profit significantly from any future transfer. Furthermore, his stats are way better than Daniel James who just looked like a pace merchant in the Championship and he hasn't done too badly at Man United. Bowen obviously has a different set of attributes to him but from what I've seen of him I personally think he's more than capable of the step up and I genuinely don't think he'd be any worse than Perez, Barnes, Gray, or Albrighton (not that any of them are particularly bad) so I wouldn't be overly concerned if we did make a move for the lad. 

Gray is particularly bad I'm afraid.

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On 15/12/2019 at 10:02, Tuna said:

His goal scoring record from midfield is ridiculous from an average team, but I just think we're shopping in different markets now and should be looking for better.

 

Don't think he's any better than anyone in our regular XI and this is where we need so strengthen.

 

 

.. take a look at James at United!! 

We failed to pick him up and would gladly shell out a few millions for him now. 

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3 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

.. take a look at James at United!! 

We failed to pick him up and would gladly shell out a few millions for him now. 

Beat me to it👍

 

Although James has an incredible burst of pace

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If we had 2 or 3 brilliant wingers then this would be a great signing. Unfortunately we have 4 decent wingers. Not sure how bringing in a 5th helps us when 2 barely play already...

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It's his lack of assists which highlight he isn't a creative wide forward but a pure goalscorer, which is kind of what Perez is supposed to be. At £10m though I'd be very tempted to take a chance.

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6 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

It's his lack of assists which highlight he isn't a creative wide forward but a pure goalscorer, which is kind of what Perez is supposed to be. At £10m though I'd be very tempted to take a chance.

Double that if we're looking at signing him in January.

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Tricky one. Could be a bargain, but we could just be adding quantity in a position where we need quality.

 

I like Albrighton, and with Rodgers' guidance, I still think there's a chance Gray could become a good player, but if we got a good offer for either, I'd probably go for Bowen if the price was right. I'd still want someone a cut above what we already have, as well, though.

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regarding pace rodgers has managed to give Evans alot more pace than what he had last season and vardy is sprinting faster than ever! So perhaps the same could be achieved with bowen!

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Any signing now needs to be top quality, we have the pulling power, so I don’t see the point in stockpiling players like Bowen, if it’s to be believed he isn’t good enough.

 

 

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