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54 minutes ago, Izzy said:

"Everything we say turns into a song, do da, do da"

 

"Everything we say turns into a song, doody, do, da, day"

 

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Don’t encourage it @Izzy

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Surely the last time one of the Mountbatten-Windsor’s marry a divorced American social climber? 

 

The Queen showing a iron fist Stalin would be proud of.

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4 minutes ago, MattP said:

Surely the last time one of the Mountbatten-Windsor’s marry a divorced American social climber? 

 

The Queen giving a iron fisting, Ron Jeremy would be proud of.

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14 minutes ago, Countryfox said:

What about the money from Charlie boys Cornish pot ??

I guess that’s up to him.  No comment on police costs either.

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.....Theres a house for sale on my street Harry. In no traffic, 35 to 40 minute drive downtown Toronto....i can get you an appointment to see the house....i can give the duchess a private showing seeing as shes already in Canada :thumbup:

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Do wonder how this will play out. I can see Harry back here in a few years and an ugly child custody case. Hope I'm wrong and they live happily ever after though. 

 

Seems like Megan was completely unprepared for the scrutiny of royal life. All women who've married into royals have had to deal with a ton of scrutiny and harrasment. I see on twitter a lot of people saying it was all racism in the press, but I think it was more sexism. They were just used to to royal women doing what they were told and she was a bit outspoken. Her history doesn't help her though, she does seem to move on from people/family. Whoever she was, with her history, questions would be asked.

 

Not sure this is quite the win for the Queen some people proclaim. They still keep HRH (just don't use them); still looks like they get the police protection costs covered (so does Tony Blair, so not totally unfair); looks like Charles will still give them millions and they can commercialise their brand. It's more of a cleverly worded PR statement.

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8 hours ago, Guesty said:

Do wonder how this will play out. I can see Harry back here in a few years and an ugly child custody case. Hope I'm wrong and they live happily ever after though. 

 

Seems like Megan was completely unprepared for the scrutiny of royal life. All women who've married into royals have had to deal with a ton of scrutiny and harrasment. I see on twitter a lot of people saying it was all racism in the press, but I think it was more sexism. They were just used to to royal women doing what they were told and she was a bit outspoken. Her history doesn't help her though, she does seem to move on from people/family. Whoever she was, with her history, questions would be asked.

 

Not sure this is quite the win for the Queen some people proclaim. They still keep HRH (just don't use them); still looks like they get the police protection costs covered (so does Tony Blair, so not totally unfair); looks like Charles will still give them millions and they can commercialise their brand. It's more of a cleverly worded PR statement.

And all just in time divert press attention and take the heat off good old Andy.

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8 hours ago, Guesty said:

Do wonder how this will play out. I can see Harry back here in a few years and an ugly child custody case. Hope I'm wrong and they live happily ever after though. 

 

Seems like Megan was completely unprepared for the scrutiny of royal life. All women who've married into royals have had to deal with a ton of scrutiny and harrasment. I see on twitter a lot of people saying it was all racism in the press, but I think it was more sexism. They were just used to to royal women doing what they were told and she was a bit outspoken. Her history doesn't help her though, she does seem to move on from people/family. Whoever she was, with her history, questions would be asked.

 

Not sure this is quite the win for the Queen some people proclaim. They still keep HRH (just don't use them); still looks like they get the police protection costs covered (so does Tony Blair, so not totally unfair); looks like Charles will still give them millions and they can commercialise their brand. It's more of a cleverly worded PR statement.

There are examples out there of Meghan and Kate doing the same thing and receiving wildly different responses from the press.  Unless you're claiming Kate's not a woman then sexism is not the main prejudice:

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It's actually disgusting that they get away with it.

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It is really a hard Megxit? Harry and Archie remain 6th and 7th in line to the throne. Only an act of Parliament (or their conversion to Roman Catholicism) can change that. Clearly they haven't thrown the throne!

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2 hours ago, Carl the Llama said:

It's actually disgusting that they get away with it.

Daily Mail have always been scumbags

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Apparently ...  now that Mr and Mrs Windsor are having to tighten their belts, Harry was seen at a local post office buying a second class stamp so that young Archie has a picture of his great gran to stick on the wall ...

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Well played Queenie! Gazes into her chrystal ball and only sees trouble ahead so nips it in the bud!

 

Nah, in seriousness, I wish both Harry and Megah all the best and I could understand a motivation to get out. But what do any of us know in reality? There's a truth and then there's reporting with an agenda, so who knows?

 

I do think there's been a focus on Meghan though, and I kinda feel for Harry. I reckon the drive and desire to get away could well be his, and Meghan has understandably supported him in it. She's been a catalys rather than the driving force... maybe... but wtf do I know?

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7 hours ago, Carl the Llama said:

There are examples out there of Meghan and Kate doing the same thing and receiving wildly different responses from the press.  Unless you're claiming Kate's not a woman then sexism is not the main prejudice:

 

They are treated differently, I agree and for some it will be race. But people forget or weren't around: Kate was given a hard time by the press when she got with William. Called Waity Katie, goldigger, etc: had to give up her job because of loads of journalists were harrassing her outside her work place (she literally had trouble walking down the street until it was agreed the press couldn't come on her side of the road). She just took it, accepted it and finally they left her alone. Diana and Sarah Ferguson received lots of negative press and were hounded. They were all lucky there was no social media. It's almost like some wierd initiation the press think they have a right to. 

 

Daily Mail is a rag of a paper. It seems when the Mail writes a negative story about Meghan it gets lots of views which means more advertising so they keep doing it. Even people defending her make a big deal about the stories which is what the Mail want. I speak to people who I work with (office of over 100 people) who all come from different backgrounds and none of them seem to warm to Meghan; so I wonder if it's more complex than race.

 

But there is undercover racism in the press and it does play a part, because it's a problem in society. It's like when people go missing you get missing white women syndrome or pretty white girl syndrome. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_white_woman_syndrome

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4 minutes ago, Guesty said:

They are treated differently, I agree and for some it will be race. But people forget or weren't around: Kate was given a hard time by the press when she got with William. Called Waity Katie, goldigger, etc: had to give up her job because of loads of journalists were harrassing her outside her work place (she literally had trouble walking down the street until it was agreed the press couldn't come on her side of the road). She just took it, accepted it and finally they left her alone. Diana and Sarah Ferguson received lots of negative press and were hounded. They were all lucky there was no social media. It's almost like some wierd initiation the press think they have a right to. 

 

Daily Mail is a rag of a paper. It seems when the Mail writes a negative story about Meghan it gets lots of views which means more advertising so they keep doing it. Even people defending her make a big deal about the stories which is what the Mail want. I speak to people who I work with (office of over 100 people) who all come from different backgrounds and none of them seem to warm to Meghan; so I wonder if it's more complex than race.

 

But there is undercover racism in the press and it does play a part, because it's a problem in society. It's like when people go missing you get missing white women syndrome or pretty white girl syndrome. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_white_woman_syndrome

 

Yeah and also maybe the reason is that Kate is actually a likeable, nice person and Meghan isn't and rubs people up the wrong way. I know some people are seemingly only capable of seeing identity as a differentiator but the reality is that there are more differences between people than the colour of their skin. There is undoubtedly some racist undertones to it for sure but given that she's treated a ton of people like shit during her life it's unlikely the sole driver. 

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17 minutes ago, Guesty said:

They are treated differently, I agree and for some it will be race. But people forget or weren't around: Kate was given a hard time by the press when she got with William. Called Waity Katie, goldigger, etc: had to give up her job because of loads of journalists were harrassing her outside her work place (she literally had trouble walking down the street until it was agreed the press couldn't come on her side of the road). She just took it, accepted it and finally they left her alone. Diana and Sarah Ferguson received lots of negative press and were hounded. They were all lucky there was no social media. It's almost like some wierd initiation the press think they have a right to. 

 

Daily Mail is a rag of a paper. It seems when the Mail writes a negative story about Meghan it gets lots of views which means more advertising so they keep doing it. Even people defending her make a big deal about the stories which is what the Mail want. I speak to people who I work with (office of over 100 people) who all come from different backgrounds and none of them seem to warm to Meghan; so I wonder if it's more complex than race.

 

But there is undercover racism in the press and it does play a part, because it's a problem in society. It's like when people go missing you get missing white women syndrome or pretty white girl syndrome. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_white_woman_syndrome

 

Good post.

 

Although I think there is a race element and a personality element in there, I wonder if it's more misogyny that sells papers/advertising. All the Royals you've named are women and I'm struggling to think of male Royals being given a hard time by the media, except for something significant they've actually done: Harry & his Nazi costume, Charles in the past over controversial comments, Edward for crass commercial acts. Even Andrew hasn't been given that hard a time considering the seriousness of the accusations against him.

 

When the media get their claws into a female royal, it often becomes more persistent with ongoing harassment, constant unflattering photos, character annihilation.....often based on personal disapproval, not misdeeds.

 

Not sure if the same gender divide applies to non-royal celebs? There's a lot of "build them up to knock them down" with the women, too: Diana got mounds of good publicity before the bad stuff - similar with Meghan to a lesser extent? 

 

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Yeah and also maybe the reason is that Kate is actually a likeable, nice person and Meghan isn't and rubs people up the wrong way. I know some people are seemingly only capable of seeing identity as a differentiator but the reality is that there are more differences between people than the colour of their skin. There is undoubtedly some racist undertones to it for sure but given that she's treated a ton of people like shit during her life it's unlikely the sole driver. 

 

Genuine questions, as I only pay superficial attention to this stuff....

 

- What makes you say Kate is a "likeable, nice person and Meghan isn't"? Superficially, Kate seems more restrained and conventional, Meghan more assertive and forthright. But I wouldn't have a clue whether either is a nice person or not.

 

- Who are the "ton of people" that Meghan has "treated like shit"? I'm aware of the fall-out with her father, but have no idea whose fault that really was or who gave/sold her private letter to the press.

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