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3 minutes ago, StanSP said:

I don't mind ambition at all but this guy comes with some quality and already it's not good enough, even though he can be versatile and is a signing we need in a position where we need to strengthen (some people are getting far too hung up on his position - he can play LB/LWB/RB/RWB). It's good to have that versatility and he comes with decent experience from a good side. 

 

Yes there have been some poor signings in recent times but this isn't one of them, I hope. Its the problem with people on this site (not you, just in general). People are far too quick to write a player off because they find one weakness or negative point and latch on to that for their whole time here). Give players a chance. Fans are far too cynical these days. I actually fear for any new signings first game. As soon as they make a mistake it'll be (told you so, not good enough blah blah blah). God forbid a player makes a mistake or one poor pass in a game. They're targeted by fans for the rest of the game and already confidence can be knocked. No matter how well they may go on to play - we make it very difficult as fans to be won over instead of just seeing a player try to enjoy themselves when they come here. 

OK.

 

It seems the majority are pleased with this acquisition.  I am a little underwhelmed but I don't suggest for a minute that he is a bad player or lacking in quality.  As I say, I am hard to please.  I would just like to add, directed more at some others, that different opinions are permitted.

 

I agree with you that we should get behind our new signings, the treatment that Ghezzal received was shameful and having said my piece, I will move on, hoping to be proven wrong,

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Just now, AKCJ said:

He isn't. Not by a long way.

But if we spend a much bigger fee in a Chilwell replacement, it probably leaves us with much less money to continue improving the rest of the squad. 

 

It's logical to think we were looking at Gosens, Tagliafico and Castagne. The fact the latter comes with some quality but cheaper works better for us to then hopefully improve in other areas we also need to. As opposed to spending £40m on another LB and leaving less to pay for a quality winger/striker/CB which are usually way more expensive to pay for quality than a full back is... 

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4 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

He isn't. Not by a long way.

But if funds were the concern, how could you have justified spending £40m on Gosens or Tagliafico?

I'd personally take a downgrade on Chilwell (not that I think he is, I've barely seen him play) in order to strengthen other areas more.

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Just now, AKCJ said:

He isn't. Not by a long way.

I think you're going to be pleasantly surprised. 

 

Having said that, I didn't particularly rate Chilwell, so maybe we just have different views on what a 'good' full back is. 

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5 minutes ago, Beechey said:

Here's a question for you: why do you care how much the guy cost?

accountability has to part of the process to build for the future , we are not Burnley we can and do spend but thinking we just spend spend spend like man city without a care in the world is naive.  things can go wrong and clubs can get into deep trouble financially 

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6 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

Exactly.

 

It's just going to be another signing that doesn't improve us and we'll either be selling for a loss or be lumbered with.

 

If you consistently sign players that don't improve the starting 11 then you won't improve.

We can't just sign players to walk into our starting 11, though. The pool of players who could improve our starting 11 but would also like to come to Leicester is very small, and even if we were signing first 11 quality players they would cost at least £30m a piece. 

 

We have to continue improving the overall squad strength and carry on developing our own players. Or, much like Soyuncu, bring ones in who can come into the side in a year or twos time after adapting to the league etc. 

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Also, when/if Ricardo leaves, we appear to have a very decent replacement already signed and bedded in. I'm struggling to see a genuine downside here.

 

@murphy, cannot speak for others, but you aren't the standard contrarian on here imo, so always respect the utter bollocks you spout :P

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7 minutes ago, jamfox said:

accountability has to part of the process to build for the future , we are not Burnley we can and do spend but thinking we just spend spend spend like man city without a care in the world is naive.  things can go wrong and clubs can get into deep trouble financially 

If he's on that reported £25k/week, our base financial position has changed by a grand £3.7m net over 5 years (not including Chilwell's transfer fee).

Effectively we've signed this guy for £3.7m compared to where we were.

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25K a week for 5 years by the way is a pretty decent deal for us. Let's say we got Tagliaifco (who knows we might still), he'd probably be on 60-80k a week instead. As we've found out with Adrien Silva and Slimani, if a player on high wages doesn't work out, it can create a big problem in terms of shifting them on. 

 

That said Tagliafico I think is a top class player, but regardless I think Castagne is a good signing, and I think he would have been a good addition even if we didn't sell Chilwell. We need cover and strength in depth, and I think Castagne is good as either a starter or rotation option. Having players competing for places is a good place to be as a club.

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6 minutes ago, Beechey said:

If he's on that reported £25k/week, our base financial position has changed by a grand £3m over 5 years.

Well obviously the full financial impact needs to be looked at , if that's you point fair enough.  my point is financial accountability is really important because clubs who spend smart have a better chance of success in the future. unless your owned by Sheikh fatwad

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1 hour ago, Bert said:

I would be surprised if we wait until he returns from internationals for us to announce it. The club will do something fancy with some graphics and a backdrop 

Of corse the thread has to get to 100 pages first before he signs

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13 minutes ago, Deeg67 said:

The point here is that if you can go from Chilwell to Castagne without losing much if anything and bank 35 million in the process, you can spend that 35 million on someone who will improve the starting 11.

This is my opinion as well. But that does assume that Congerton/Rudkin will spend the remaining 35 million of a player/players that will actually improve us, and that's not guaranteed by a long way. 

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6 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

Why are we sure he's on £25k a week? This feels like someone has seen the headline transfer fee and got mixed up. Apologies if I'm wrong.

Someone posted it saying he was going to be on €1.5m per year.

Veracity is up for debate, of course.

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So is everyone here expecting Ricardo to rock up the first game and be our star right back again from day one? 

 

Because he won't. 

 

With this signing we now have a solid RB who is also good at LB when needed for cover. 

 

We also have an up and coming LB who is also good at RB in JJ.

 

We then have a RB recovering from a major injury who will need game time but will not be playing 90 minutes for a while. 

 

And a young LB who also needs game time but won't be playing every game. 

 

With what we have, we have Castagne as first choice RB, and JJ as first choice LB.

 

When Ricardo is 100%, he becomes first choice RB again, and then we have competition for LB and proper cover for RB if needed. And Thomas can be loaned out in January. 

 

That's not a bad position to be in, and quite a decent solution to the multiple problems with our full backs.

 

Now it's also possible that we can still target another LB from those rumoured to be holding firm on £40m and hope they drop their price now, with no pressure to buy, and loan Thomas out now. But that is no longer needed and might be overkill.

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14 minutes ago, HighPeakFox said:

Why are we sure he's on £25k a week? This feels like someone has seen the headline transfer fee and got mixed up. Apologies if I'm wrong.

 

Don’t know what the source is, but apparently he agreed 1.5m/yr personal terms with Napoli last year, but the deal fell through on the clubs end.

https://gianlucadimarzio.com/it/calciomercato-napoli-accordo-castagne-atalanta

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26 minutes ago, AKCJ said:

Which is a good thing.

 

Still sooner be paying for the quality Chilwell provided, mind.

 

A trip to the Gold section at TKMaxx and some teeth whitening sessions and we're golden

 

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This feels like an Albrighton replacement, hard working versatile, poor attacking stats but popular player as he gives his all. No other interest apart from Hertha Berlin. I hope we've got someone else lined up because Chilwell as poor as he's been this season did help us in an attacking sense with surging runs forward.

 

I'm disturbed by the plan to move to three at the back though.

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