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23 hours ago, sylofox said:

Not sure how they do it without breaking ffp.  More creative accounting by Saudis I guess.

Newcastle are big club and I’m guessing they are possibly one of 2 teams (the other probably being West Ham?) outside of the traditional big 6 in the Premier League that could potentially meet FFP an attract big names (providing the club as a business is run correctly). If the takeover completes and after a few seasons pass, I’m sure they would be able to easily out muscle the likes of us in the transfer market irrespective of our clubs position in the table. As you mentioned, Coutinho may be a bit of stretch for them at the moment though considering the amount of positions on the field they need to improve in

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7 hours ago, s11nny said:

Newcastle are big club and I’m guessing they are possibly one of 2 teams (the other probably being West Ham?) outside of the traditional big 6 in the Premier League that could potentially meet FFP an attract big names (providing the club as a business is run correctly). If the takeover completes and after a few seasons pass, I’m sure they would be able to easily out muscle the likes of us in the transfer market irrespective of our clubs position in the table. As you mentioned, Coutinho may be a bit of stretch for them at the moment though considering the amount of positions on the field they need to improve in

I'm thinking the wage increase will get them.

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He won’t be sold in the window... no clubs with their drop of income in the last few months will be able to afford him. He’ll go out on loan and that will be our best chance of getting him.. 

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16 hours ago, s11nny said:

Newcastle are big club and I’m guessing they are possibly one of 2 teams (the other probably being West Ham?) outside of the traditional big 6 in the Premier League that could potentially meet FFP an attract big names (providing the club as a business is run correctly). If the takeover completes and after a few seasons pass, I’m sure they would be able to easily out muscle the likes of us in the transfer market irrespective of our clubs position in the table. As you mentioned, Coutinho may be a bit of stretch for them at the moment though considering the amount of positions on the field they need to improve in

Definitely a bit of a stretch for us. Not just because, like @sylofox says we'll be restricted by FFP wage rules. Coutinho is a player who wants to win things, and Newcastle United are some way short of competing for domestic or European honours. Even if the takeover goes through, it'll take a fair few seasons before that changes (if it does at all). Coutinho is 27 years old, he's got maybe 3-4 seasons left at the peak of his powers. Will he want to spend any of that a club in flux with small chance of adding to his winners medal collection? I doubt it. Given we can't suddenly start paying players £300k a week it's not like we could compensate that lack of silverware with cold hard cash.

 

We need fullbacks, central midfielders, and are hilariously short up front. As good as Coutinho clearly is, I personally we'd be better off splashing the cash to fill those positions instead of attacking midfield, an area we're all right at. The more realistic names I've seen linked are players like Eduoard of Celtic, McGinn from Villa. Better than what we have, but not superstars yet. 

 

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2 minutes ago, SheppyFox said:

Loan...

Is that just an extract from your morning prayer buddy or do you have some news?

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16 hours ago, Swan Lesta said:

Is that just an extract from your morning prayer buddy or do you have some news?

Rodgers has said we can’t afford to buy him, just a hunch 😉

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On 14/05/2020 at 02:19, SheppyFox said:

Loan...

Dont do this to us. 

 

What a sign of intent this would be, obviously there might be question marks over how he would fit in, so  a loan would be my preferred situation. If we got in a big name like that early doors, youd find that a few other big names would start considering us, that otherwise may not have. 

 

I actually think that if we have spending ability, we will be a much more desirable team to join now compared to after we won the league. Which in theory means this is the most attractive our club has ever been in its history... madness

 

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3 hours ago, Heymister2015 said:

I’d spend the money on Leon Bailey instead

Leon Bailey has nothing on Coutinho 

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17 hours ago, Lambert09 said:

Dont do this to us. 

 

What a sign of intent this would be, obviously there might be question marks over how he would fit in, so  a loan would be my preferred situation. If we got in a big name like that early doors, youd find that a few other big names would start considering us, that otherwise may not have. 

 

I actually think that if we have spending ability, we will be a much more desirable team to join now compared to after we won the league. Which in theory means this is the most attractive our club has ever been in its history... madness

 

Loan wouldn't be my preferred situation. 

 

If he plays as well as how we know he can in the PL it won't be a Youri situation where his price is hiked a little bit but we still end up getting him. We'd be simply sticking him in the shop window and I would imagine stand little chance when it came to the end of his loan in a mad scramble to sign him permanently with Europe's elite.

 

We need to push the boat out if we can. If he had no history of playing in the PL I'd be a little more cautious after getting our fingers burnt with Inler, Slimani and Silva but he already has the 'experience' box ticked, not only that, we have a manager who would know how to get the very best out of him. 

 

I think his career has stagnated a little as he is a medium sized fish in a large pond at Barca and Bayern but if he came to us, he'd be like that 40lb carp that stole my brand new rod and reel when I was younger -  just as costly too! 

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6 hours ago, Collymore said:

Loan wouldn't be my preferred situation. 

 

If he plays as well as how we know he can in the PL it won't be a Youri situation where his price is hiked a little bit but we still end up getting him. We'd be simply sticking him in the shop window and I would imagine stand little chance when it came to the end of his loan in a mad scramble to sign him permanently with Europe's elite.

 

We need to push the boat out if we can. If he had no history of playing in the PL I'd be a little more cautious after getting our fingers burnt with Inler, Slimani and Silva but he already has the 'experience' box ticked, not only that, we have a manager who would know how to get the very best out of him. 

 

I think his career has stagnated a little as he is a medium sized fish in a large pond at Barca and Bayern but if he came to us, he'd be like that 40lb carp that stole my brand new rod and reel when I was younger -  just as costly too! 

Hmm, I’m not convinced there’s any value to be had with it. Tielemans was different because he is so young and has potential to reach. I’d be very surprised if anything we paid for PC would be recouped even if he was very very good. It would be similar to Zaha, once you’ve failed at a big club it’s hard to get that move again. 

 

Given what they paid, they will be seeking at least 60m. It’s got disaster written all over it tbh.  If they were asking for 40m I’d be tempted, but I’d draw the line there. 

 

A loan with an option to buy at 60m, that will do nicely. 

 

 

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Will FFP be scrapped for the next couple of seasons because of Corona?

 

We could be a bit naughty and smash it to pieces...

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25 minutes ago, adam1 said:

Will FFP be scrapped for the next couple of seasons because of Corona?

 

We could be a bit naughty and smash it to pieces...

You would surely think so. No one is going to get anywhere near a profit this year. 

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35 minutes ago, adam1 said:

Will FFP be scrapped for the next couple of seasons because of Corona?

 

We could be a bit naughty and smash it to pieces...

Better get looking down the back of the sofa then ........

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On 15/05/2020 at 20:23, Pliskin said:

Pedro De La Vega. He’s the future.

Viva la Vegas! Not betting on this happening, but great chant opportunities.

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PHIL-ING OUT 

Man Utd, Chelsea and Leicester ‘contact Philippe Coutinho’s agent’ while Newcastle also eye £71m-rated Barcelona flop

CHELSEA, Manchester United and Leicester have all reportedly contacted Philippe Coutinho's agent ahead of a summer move.

Spanish outlet Mundo Deportivo claims the Blues remain the Brazilian's preferred choice but Newcastle have also unofficially registered an interest.

 

The 27-year-old is currently on a season-long loan at Bayern Munich from Barcelona but faces a fight to return before the end of the season following ankle surgery.

The Bundesliga champs have the option to make Coutinho's move permanent but have so far seemed unwilling to meet Barca's £100million price tag.

 

Recent reports claimed boss Hansi Flick had been hoping to extend the attacker's deal until the Champions League is completed later this summer.

Yet according to Mundo, Barca aim to have Coutinho sold by June 30, three days after Bayern's final league game against Wolfsburg.

 

The Catalans hope to recoup up to £71m from a bidding war between Premier League sides, with the player keen on a return to England's top-flight.

Chelsea reportedly remain Coutinho's destination of choice, with a reunion with former Liverpool boss Brendan Rodgers at Leicester also a possibility.

Despite failing to live up to expectations at the Nou Camp, the £142m ace has a number of clubs queuing up for his signature.

Chelsea look the firm favourites to land him after Liverpool rejected the chance to re-sign him over the phone.

 

Brazil legend Rivaldo has insisted Coutinho can get back to his best by leaving Barcelona for Stamford Bridge this summer.

 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/11686812/man-utd-chelsea-leicester-philippe-coutinho-agent/

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16 hours ago, North Leeds Fox said:

Yeah, injured in training. Not sure when he is back 

Had surgery at the end of April to remove some loose bone fragments from his ankle and started his recovery period 2 weeks later, however now not expected back for a further 6 weeks, might be available for the final league at the end of June

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