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I have lost all faith in this government now and i voted for them. Its the mixed messages, the u turns, constantly seemingly being caught off guard has done it for me. I mean we in parts of Leicester are still in lockdown not that you would know it. Everything seems to be like it was this time last year except for wearing masks. 

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To be fair the younger people are probably the spreaders and not helping, myself included in that, but it's one of many causes. I'd imagine a lot of younger people live with their parents or house share with others, they are more likely to have an active social life, they are attending college/university, they have less disposible income, so are more likely to use public transport or car share with others to work and other events?

 

The difference in opinions in this thread is alarming, people have just had enough, at the start the majority were all for the measures, but it seems like the tide has turned as this has dragged on, which is to be expected in all fairness.

 

It's worrying that people can't seem to get tested at the minute, surely we can't be testing 150k+ people everyday in the UK at the minute, or is something else going on that's preventing people getting access to a test?

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4 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

Good example of this occurred this morning, Nadine Dorries on twitter saying no one said this would be finished by the end of the year. 
 

Yet Boris openly said finished by Christmas. 
 

I’m surprised that their first defence of this increase wasn’t ‘this was expected’. A calm measured statement when they released details of the relaxation on restrictions explaining the likely increase and the ultimate goal of reducing hospitalisations would have gone a long way. 
 

For a few weeks, we seemed to have the balance right which was partly reliant on working from home. They wanted that fcuked off - (I can suggest why but not going to make this thread overtly political again) 

 

The immediate accusation towards the younger population is just going to led into further ignorance of any restrictions. The admittance of errors the public can take in the circumstances as they are unique but the resistance to do this baffles me 

Agree 100% with that last paragraph. If they could hold their hands up and admit their fuch ups they would get more respect and tolerance i think. Its the constant shifting of blame so its everyone elses fault that has irked a lot of people. Just nobody knows whats what anymore and even more so since the cryptic daily conferences ended.

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54 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

To be fair the younger people are probably the spreaders and not helping, myself included in that, but it's one of many causes. I'd imagine a lot of younger people live with their parents or house share with others, they are more likely to have an active social life, they are attending college/university, they have less disposible income, so are more likely to use public transport or car share with others to work and other events?

 

The difference in opinions in this thread is alarming, people have just had enough, at the start the majority were all for the measures, but it seems like the tide has turned as this has dragged on, which is to be expected in all fairness.

 

It's worrying that people can't seem to get tested at the minute, surely we can't be testing 150k+ people everyday in the UK at the minute, or is something else going on that's preventing people getting access to a test?

This is a bit confusing as they reckon there is plenty of testing capacity but they can't process the results quick enough, which seems a bit odd to announce that all of a sudden after the government being able to produce figures on a daily basis. I think the British public are being mushroomed by an inept government that are clueless when it comes to managing a country. Latest advice is for young people to use an added degree of common sense this autumn which, as i remember from my youth, was to make sure you didn't give her your last name.

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2 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said:

This is a bit confusing as they reckon there is plenty of testing capacity but they can't process the results quick enough, which seems a bit odd to announce that all of a sudden after the government being able to produce figures on a daily basis. I think the British public are being mushroomed by an inept government that are clueless when it comes to managing a country.

I've seen a couple of posts on here suggest that they can't get tested and then a couple of friends on FB said they weren't able to get their kids tested, but the kids can't go back to school until they've had a negative test, so they're all just stuck at home indoors. **** knows what's going onlol

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5 hours ago, leicsmac said:

Honest question - is the UK testing infrastructure really as woeful as it is being described here?

 

That's not exactly great - it's not like the powers that be haven't had time to get their act together by now.

Not for me - I booked a test on the Saturday afternoon - had the test on the Sunday morning 10:30am the results came through Sunday night / Monday morning 03:30am but that wouldn't make for good printing i guess.

 

To add i used a Mobile test centre which was set up over the w/end 3min drive from my front door, although there were 2 other main stations set up no more than 15-20mins drive away.

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Just now, BKLFox said:

Not for me - I booked a test on the Saturday afternoon - had the test on the Sunday morning 10:30am the results came through Sunday night / Monday morning 03:30am but that wouldn't make for good printing i guess.

Same here, booked at 9am for 11am Saturday morning received the results Sunday 4pm, test centre 20 minutes away.

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5 hours ago, foxile5 said:

The young people who definitely don't spread it - they've done the research, y'know.

When you say 'they' do you refer to Johnson & Cummings sat in a LAB with bunsen burners fired up or do you mean the Worlds Experts in Virology?

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1 hour ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

Yet Boris openly said finished by Christmas. 

This is the same man that bragged about shaking hands with hospitalised people to the nation, then subsequently ended up intensive care. 

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4 hours ago, reynard said:

Basically yes. It is essentially unpredictable. Can be good can be hopeless depending on where you live. Government as usual can't organise anything properly. They come out with high asspirations which they never meet.

trouble is have doubled in 24 hours. Also the reopening of schools has led to parents demanding tests when their kids have a snuffle etc (quite understandably) and this has added further to the problem. Maybe the last two days are oddities but I highly doubt it. Fully expect us to be at France levels of infection within 10-14 days. Hospitalisation is creeping up but so far only slowly. Let's hope we can keep those levels low.

The level of infection is now endemic across the country and no longer confined to certain areas making test and trace almost impossible. Even where I live, very rural, the infection rate is now at 19 per 100k.

 

15 minutes ago, BKLFox said:

Not for me - I booked a test on the Saturday afternoon - had the test on the Sunday morning 10:30am the results came through Sunday night / Monday morning 03:30am but that wouldn't make for good printing i guess.

 

To add i used a Mobile test centre which was set up over the w/end 3min drive from my front door, although there were 2 other main stations set up no more than 15-20mins drive away.

Mixed/spotty reviews, then. Thank you.

 

Down to a little over 100 cases nationwide yesterday and today over here - hopefully that'll continue to drop.

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2 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

 

Mixed/spotty reviews, then. Thank you.

 

Down to a little over 100 cases nationwide yesterday and today over here - hopefully that'll continue to drop.

Same for my old man and mother, tested Sunday morning, results by Monday 1pm.

 

It seems recently in the last few days the testing has started to become a problem, not sure why.

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26 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

Down to a little over 100 cases nationwide yesterday and today over here - hopefully that'll continue to drop.

As Typhoon Haishen waited in the wings

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1 hour ago, yorkie1999 said:

This is a bit confusing as they reckon there is plenty of testing capacity but they can't process the results quick enough, which seems a bit odd to announce that all of a sudden after the government being able to produce figures on a daily basis. I think the British public are being mushroomed by an inept government that are clueless when it comes to managing a country. Latest advice is for young people to use an added degree of common sense this autumn which, as i remember from my youth, was to make sure you didn't give her your last name.

 

But a lot of testing centres seem not to be operating. There are NONE in Kent. Quite a lot of people live in Kent.

 

'Go to Essex, you will have to wait but might get seen'.

 

 

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I hear Germany only test up to 30 cycles, whilst we were testing to 40. So we are more likely to magnify dead fragments of virus DNA triggering a false positive.

 

US has the same problem as UK, to put this into perspective, if the US carried out the same testing as Germany, 70-90% would be negative in many cases. Could explain a few things.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/health/coronavirus-testing.html

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6 minutes ago, The People's Hero said:

 

But a lot of testing centres seem not to be operating. There are NONE in Kent. Quite a lot of people live in Kent.

 

'Go to Essex, you will have to wait but might get seen'.

 

 

Probably why there's only 9 cases per 100000 in kent

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7 hours ago, yorkie1999 said:

When you say 19 per 100k in a rural area, what is the actual raw data. The reason i ask is because this per 100,000  measure we've been using can be very misleading when someone takes a first glance. If there's 10000 people that live there, which isn't very rural in my eyes, that means 2 people have caught it.

That's a good point and a good question.Numbers will be low but the rate has doubled in the last week. Might be a blip hopefully but I think it is safe to say that infection is now more widespread geographically as well as in numbers than a few weeks ago which makes track and testing more difficult to manage.

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4 hours ago, The People's Hero said:

 

But a lot of testing centres seem not to be operating. There are NONE in Kent. Quite a lot of people live in Kent.

 

'Go to Essex, you will have to wait but might get seen'.

 

 

Apparently, when they calculate your nearest test centre, it's as the crow flies. So if you live in Sheerness, you're likely to get sent to Southend, only 8 miles away... across the Thames Estuary. In reality that's a drive into London to use the Dartford tunnel/bridge and a 120 mile round trip.

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On 07/09/2020 at 16:43, Lionator said:

3000 again today. Daily hospitalisations are also starting to increase quite rapidly according to the government PHE page. 

I think we would have been fine with shops open with masks, 2m distance, and any business that cannot operate with 2m and masks shut (yes sorry hospitality sector).  Now it doesnt look good going forward, something will have to give in the months to come.  As much as people are to be determined to keep been allowed to go out for a drink and sending their kids to school, no minister will allow the NHS to collapse for it.

 

The local lockdown feels like it doesnt matter now.

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8 hours ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

Asif people are actually gonna listen to this anymore. 

 

It is a bit hard to take serious when its business as usual in hospitality.  Although I do wonder who approved it to be 30 in the first place, thats a very high number, I thought it was set to something that fit common sense.

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1 hour ago, MonmoreStef said:

The amount of parents on social media claiming to be terrified for their children’s safety with the cases being reported in schools beggars beliefs.  Their children are more likely to die travelling to school and having an accident, than what they are from the virus, yet the amount of parents claiming the kids are being treated like guinea pigs and their lives being put at risk etc as shocked me.  It’s seems the coronaphobs have got a second wind and are back being scared of leaving the house. 

I agree, Stef, but every parent I know doesn't seem to give two hoots. In fact, I'd wager most would still send the kids to school even if 50 kids there were riddled with it. 

 

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