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11 hours ago, Kopfkino said:

 

A one off or regularly?

Think a one off mate, but don't know the details for sure.

This article from the uni website explains it a bit better. Feel this is a way of testing a new system as well as caring for the health of staff/students and good PR. Tests aren't mandatory but encouraged as well.

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51 minutes ago, ealingfox said:

 

Spot on. The way young people are treated in this country is a bloody disgrace.

Tbf there's sections of young folk not exactly helping the cause with raves and fresher parties. Not exactly innocent are they. When people are criticising young people these are who they mean. Just like we've had cricisisms on here directed at middle aged folk who can't resist going to the pub or old folk too stupid to use home deliveries, hell, there's even been the whole it's dem ethnic minorities not wearing masks bit. 

 

Seems to me there's plenty of blame to go around, no need to take any of it personally. 

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58 minutes ago, Rob1742 said:

Every situation is hard, but at the moment virtually every person is having restrictions put on them. So I suppose the caveat isolate “where possible” could be mentioned.

 

An example to help could be you give financial support to help those near retirement so they can retire early and stay at home.

 

This sort of thing is hard to monitor, but you have a better chance of getting the funds to the right people, rather than now where ALL businesses could just ask for £50,000 and get it the next day.

 

This highlights my point really. We are having to give help to the whole population whereas we really should just look at those most at risk. It’s a much smaller number so much easier to get a handle on, much easier to monitor. 
 

It wouldn’t be easy, but the amount of people bragging about getting £50k free from the government that they won’t pay back shows how scattergun our approach is. We are trying to do something for 67m people all with different situations going on, rather than looking at who is at risk. That number will be tiny in comparison and can be targeted much easier and with much less cost.

 

How much has been spent on these business “loans” and furlough. Pretty sure you could have just put in social distancing and helped the vulnerable financially to stay at home and we would be better off. 
 

Yes mixed households are an issue, but maybe then help out the households even to stay at home? Everything comes with an issue but if 95% of the population can carry on and keep the economy and lives moving forward until a vaccine is found, it’s better than ruining huge amounts of people’s lives for a very very long time

I'm with you all the way, I just don't think there's a workable solution once you start to get into the details.

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41 minutes ago, UniFox21 said:

Think a one off mate, but don't know the details for sure.

This article from the uni website explains it a bit better. Feel this is a way of testing a new system as well as caring for the health of staff/students and good PR. Tests aren't mandatory but encouraged as well.

PR indeed. Unless they're going to take samples late night, run them, and get results out by morning so that anyone that has it asymptomatically can isolate, the tests are going to do little to protect from the virus.

 

Good way of testing the new technology they're developing though, I guess.

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In the office today for the first time since mid March (my own accord, nobody held a gun to my head). We have 500 staff in Leeds, there’s currently me and 3 other people in the whole office who are here and speaking to the girls on reception there’s been no more than 5 people in at any one time since we reopened it 2 weeks ago. This can’t be sustainable, surely, the company must be losing money on this place hand over fist and it wouldn’t surprise me if we got rid of it all together. The commercial property market must be on its arse if this is anything to go by. 

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3 hours ago, Innovindil said:

Tbf there's sections of young folk not exactly helping the cause with raves and fresher parties. Not exactly innocent are they. When people are criticising young people these are who they mean. Just like we've had cricisisms on here directed at middle aged folk who can't resist going to the pub or old folk too stupid to use home deliveries, hell, there's even been the whole it's dem ethnic minorities not wearing masks bit. 

 

Seems to me there's plenty of blame to go around, no need to take any of it personally. 

I mean they're looking at a future where the planet's on fire because previous generations didn't want to be inconvenienced by climate change measures, they've experienced multiple 'once in a lifetime' economic crashes within their first couple decades of life, most will be lucky to get on the housing ladder at all as getting out of the rent trap becomes increasingly unlikely, especially now their jobs market is being dried up by measures put in place to protect the generations who engineered this situation, many of whom are being openly contemptuous of the measures themselves.  I don't blame young people at all for being apathetic, it's not their fault they were birthed to a narcissistic species bent on its own destruction.

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13 hours ago, Rob1742 said:

Time to turn this on it’s head. So of 67m population we have deaths Of 42,000. Let’s say this gets to 67,000, then we are saying it has taken 0.1% of the population.

 

So 99.9% of the population are facing restrictions, the economy is on its ass and implications with regards to people’s future is increasingly worrying. We are in a devastating situation, yet we are trying to protect maybe 20,000 people.

 

We need to turn this on its head. We need to isolate those at risk, put money in the pot to help them, and let the rest get on with their lives. With social distancing where possible to keep these 99.9% of people’s lives going forward.

 

The government have got this drastically wrong. It should be the old 80/20 rule, but this is 99.9 / 0.1 yet we are causing issues for the majority.

 

At 53 I am not a youngster who would walk through the virus without trouble, but I fully understand the implication this is having on millions of people and we have to keep the country going and livelihoods protected.

 

People are missing operations, mental health is suffering, education is being affected for millions and millions and we are accepting what the government say and just watching people’s futures diminish. 
 

I supported the government initially as it was something they couldn’t ever predict, but they are watching futures go down the toilet rather than have a plan to protect the most vulnerable.

 

 

That's a very big maybe when 11.8m people were over 65 in 2016

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Deaths involving COVID-19 have increased for the second consecutive week in England and Wales.

There were 139 fatalities which mentioned coronavirus on the death certificate - up from 99 the previous week, according to the latest figures from the Office for National Statistics (ONS).
 

 


COVID-19 deaths still only accounted for 1.5% of all deaths

 

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I just looked up the last Covid-19 watchlist report 

 

Leicester is 90.9 positive tests per 100,000. 
 

So correct me if I’m thick here 

 

90.9 / 100,000

9.09 / 10,000

0.909 / 1,000 

0.0909 / 100 

 

So that’s like 1 person has Covid in every 1,100? Over the last seven days on average 

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3 hours ago, Manini said:

In the office today for the first time since mid March (my own accord, nobody held a gun to my head). We have 500 staff in Leeds, there’s currently me and 3 other people in the whole office who are here and speaking to the girls on reception there’s been no more than 5 people in at any one time since we reopened it 2 weeks ago. This can’t be sustainable, surely, the company must be losing money on this place hand over fist and it wouldn’t surprise me if we got rid of it all together. The commercial property market must be on its arse if this is anything to go by. 

Just you and the girls on reception in the whole entire office you say? 

 

:claudio:

 

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2 hours ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

I just looked up the last Covid-19 watchlist report 

 

Leicester is 90.9 positive tests per 100,000. 
 

So correct me if I’m thick here 

 

90.9 / 100,000

9.09 / 10,000

0.909 / 1,000 

0.0909 / 100 

 

So that’s like 1 person has Covid in every 1,100? Over the last seven days on average 

That’s correct, that was why I couldn’t get my head around taking countries off the safe to travel list when they went above 20/100,000, that’s 200 cases in every million. 

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Johnson, Whitty and Vallance press conference tomorrow. I'm due to go away for the only thing resembling a holiday I'll get this year on Thursday so stick your house on them announcing something that completely fvcks my ability to do that.

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14 minutes ago, Voll Blau said:

Johnson, Whitty and Vallance press conference tomorrow. I'm due to go away for the only thing resembling a holiday I'll get this year on Thursday so stick your house on them announcing something that completely fvcks my ability to do that.

Fingers crossed for you, I’m due to go away in a weeks time so pretty worried at the moment 

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5 minutes ago, Mark 'expert' Lawrenson said:

Fingers crossed for you, I’m due to go away in a weeks time so pretty worried at the moment 

Ta mate, same for you. It's grim hanging on not knowing whether you're going to be able to actually go where you're planning. Couldn't have gone any other time before now so just got to hope for the best...

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29 minutes ago, Voll Blau said:

Johnson, Whitty and Vallance press conference tomorrow. I'm due to go away for the only thing resembling a holiday I'll get this year on Thursday so stick your house on them announcing something that completely fvcks my ability to do that.

 

14 minutes ago, Mark 'expert' Lawrenson said:

Fingers crossed for you, I’m due to go away in a weeks time so pretty worried at the moment 

We were due to go Centre Parcs last week in October to celebrate Mums 70th. Ten of us in two lodges for 3 days. Got a call from Centre Parcs today telling us to cancel it and re-book for next year. Apparently with all the restrictions in place they said it really wouldn't be worth us going. Great :rolleyes:

 

Hope you two manage to get a decent break with no issues :thumbup:

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8 minutes ago, Izzy said:

 

We were due to go Centre Parcs last week in October to celebrate Mums 70th. Ten of us in two lodges for 3 days. Got a call from Centre Parcs today telling us to cancel it and re-book for next year. Apparently with all the restrictions in place they said it really wouldn't be worth us going. Great :rolleyes:

 

Hope you two manage to get a decent break with no issues :thumbup:

 

Sorry to hear that, we were due to do the same thing in April for my mum's 60th. Can't really fault them for how they dealt with our case but shocking they've given you this news so late.

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23 minutes ago, Voll Blau said:

Ta mate, same for you. It's grim hanging on not knowing whether you're going to be able to actually go where you're planning. Couldn't have gone any other time before now so just got to hope for the best...

I’m the same can’t go during the summer months, booked my upcoming holiday way back in last October, I’m a worrier anyway and am struggling with the uncertainty 

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7 minutes ago, Voll Blau said:

 

Sorry to hear that, we were due to do the same thing in April for my mum's 60th. Can't really fault them for how they dealt with our case but shocking they've given you this news so late.

Yeah its a bit shit with 4 weeks notice. I think the problem is they know we're a group of 10 from 3 separate households and this rule of 6/social bubble thing means we wouldn't have been able to do activities/eat/swim etc. together. 

 

But it is what it is I guess. If it's just you/your family going away on Thursday then hopefully you'll have no problems :fc:

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4 hours ago, Mark 'expert' Lawrenson said:

Deaths involving COVID-19 have increased for the second consecutive week in England and Wales.

There were 139 fatalities which mentioned coronavirus on the death certificate - up from 99 the previous week, according to the latest figures from the Office for National Statistics (ONS).
 

 


COVID-19 deaths still only accounted for 1.5% of all deaths

 

I love how the media has gone from reporting daily death to weekly deaths to give it that little bit more fear factor. 

 

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3 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

I love how the media has gone from reporting daily death to weekly deaths to give it that little bit more fear factor. 

 

Exactly, todays daily figures are shouted loud and proud by the media, almost boastfully which is borderline sick in itself. In contrast the figures over the past three days are whispered very vedy quietly.

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