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22 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

Was in a shop today where, despite a notice being as clear as daylight saying that wearing masks in the shop is mandatory being displayed via a ceiling above till, there were customers coming in without one in use but the worker behind the till turned a blind eye to it.

 

Fewer than half the customers in Oadby Sainsburys wearing masks when I shopped today. I asked at customer services what company policy is, and they replied that 'we request that customers wear a mask but we can't make them if they claim to have a medical condition that exempts them'. I asked if proof of a medical condition is required, and they answered no. Farcical.

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27 minutes ago, Buce said:

 

Fewer than half the customers in Oadby Sainsburys wearing masks when I shopped today. I asked at customer services what company policy is, and they replied that 'we request that customers wear a mask but we can't make them if they claim to have a medical condition that exempts them'. I asked if proof of a medical condition is required, and they answered no. Farcical.

That right there is the problem

Youre right, it is an absolute fookin farce 

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11 hours ago, Lionator said:

So what do you do in Liverpool now? NHS covid beds are 95% full and the local epidemic is still rising so they're going to be overwhelmed, and are going to have to cancel non covid related medical routines anyway to create extra capacity. 

 

It's not an either/or issue. It's to protect the NHS and ultimately, the quicker you lockdown, the quicker you come out, which means less of a hit to the economy. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8842707/Liverpools-NHS-trust-claims-intensive-care-units-80-quieter-usual.html

 

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2 minutes ago, RowlattsFox said:

I could probably count on one hand the amount of people I've seen without a mask in a shop in months. Must be more abiding up here, a little bit more in the shopping centre but not in shops themselves.

I was gonna day the same, I dont think I've noticed one person yet

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Just now, whoareyaaa said:

im pretty sure having schools open is a lot more damaging than having a few people walk around the shops without a mask, barmy

You're likely right but the stall is set out with that. This will continue unabated for a whole while. 

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8 minutes ago, RowlattsFox said:

I could probably count on one hand the amount of people I've seen without a mask in a shop in months. Must be more abiding up here, a little bit more in the shopping centre but not in shops themselves.

It's becoming a problem.  It's precisely that because everyone knows it can't be enforced properly.

 

I don't agree with it.  Masks should have been introduced much, much earlier and then removed during the summer months.  Still, I go along with it and wear one because it is the polite thing to do.  

 

I get the impression many places are just following guidance, for following guidance's sake, rather than actually imposing it and policing it.  Not that they really can do that anyway.

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2 minutes ago, Legend_in_blue said:

It's becoming a problem.  It's precisely that because everyone knows it can't be enforced properly.

 

I don't agree with it.  Masks should have been introduced much, much earlier.  Still, I go along with it and wear one because it is the polite thing to do.  

 

I get the impression many places are just following guidance, for following guidance's sake, rather than actually imposing it and policing it.  Not that they really can do that anyway.

Granted I've only been in a couple of pubs since the masks rules were  introduced but they've been way more strict than shops have been. People turned away or walking out when asked lol

 

Like most, I've worn my mask whenever I've had too without question. Even if I'm not sure it makes that much difference. 

 

There are bigger issues than mask wearing currently though. 

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Hooking this up also  to.. "Has anyone booked  a Holiday yet"

 

If I had  a decent even low budget..No Real ties....no matter what age..!! Reasonably fit....

I would Chose an Holiday Island or group thereof.

Pack my Backpack...Jump on a plane, no plans, & Stay away for 4-8 months...

Go on the coast,go inland Pick up the Local lingo , be open, be prudent but with a bit of Devil may-care attitude,towards where your are,and where you might

Jump Off to...

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1 hour ago, Buce said:

 

Fewer than half the customers in Oadby Sainsburys wearing masks when I shopped today. I asked at customer services what company policy is, and they replied that 'we request that customers wear a mask but we can't make them if they claim to have a medical condition that exempts them'. I asked if proof of a medical condition is required, and they answered no. Farcical.

Asian area. Not that I think masks make much difference, but even so, as a sweeping generalisation the Asian community is laughably non compliant. Partly I love it, the absolute indifference to.authority.  Partly I find it staggering that with so many  in multi generational households, they are so cavalier with the grandma's health

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1 hour ago, whoareyaaa said:

im pretty sure having schools open is a lot more damaging than having a few people walk around the shops without a mask, barmy

I think it’s more important that kids are in school than not all of us wear masks ... 

 

the authorities have had months to come up with a plan for those who can be exempt from wearing a mask - official cards that are obtained via your GP and worn around the neck - really not difficult ....

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40 minutes ago, fuchsntf said:

Hooking this up also  to.. "Has anyone booked  a Holiday yet"

 

If I had  a decent even low budget..No Real ties....no matter what age..!! Reasonably fit....

I would Chose an Holiday Island or group thereof.

Pack my Backpack...Jump on a plane, no plans, & Stay away for 4-8 months...

Go on the coast,go inland Pick up the Local lingo , be open, be prudent but with a bit of Devil may-care attitude,towards where your are,and where you might

Jump Off to...

Not sure if you are ever sober but if so you might have noticed travel isn’t so easy at present.

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3 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

I think it’s more important that kids are in school than not all of us wear masks ... 

 

the authorities have had months to come up with a plan for those who can be exempt from wearing a mask - official cards that are obtained via your GP and worn around the neck - really not difficult ....

Honestly, people would then need to have another way to show the public why they are exempt from wearing an official card around their necks to say they are exempt from wearing a mask.

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31 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

Asian area. Not that I think masks make much difference, but even so, as a sweeping generalisation the Asian community is laughably non compliant. Partly I love it, the absolute indifference to.authority.  Partly I find it staggering that with so many  in multi generational households, they are so cavalier with the grandma's health

I've been down the Melton / Belgrave  Roads a lot recently and have to say that most people I see out the window are wearing a mask outside. This is only an observation though. Bit harsh to say the Asian community are 'laughably non-compliant' 

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2 hours ago, Buce said:

 

Fewer than half the customers in Oadby Sainsburys wearing masks when I shopped today. I asked at customer services what company policy is, and they replied that 'we request that customers wear a mask but we can't make them if they claim to have a medical condition that exempts them'. I asked if proof of a medical condition is required, and they answered no. Farcical.

Not really the shopkeepers onus to enforce it though is it? Proof of medical exemption isn’t as objective as laws they do enforce such as selling alcohol to minors.

 

I think peer pressure is the best way to get people to think about wearing masks. I employ dirty looks as do a lot of other shoppers and I hope this makes people think.

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Also with regards to demographics of non compliance re masks, I don’t think it’s fair to say Asians, I’m far more often seeing 20-30 year old labourers/tradesmen not wearing masks in shops on their lunch break. 

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26 minutes ago, Benguin said:

Not really the shopkeepers onus to enforce it though is it?

 

I disagree.

 

Their decision is purely based on economics.

 

26 minutes ago, Benguin said:

 

Proof of medical exemption isn’t as objective as laws they do enforce such as selling alcohol to minors.

 

A note from their GP would suffice.

 

26 minutes ago, Benguin said:

 

I think peer pressure is the best way to get people to think about wearing masks. I employ dirty looks as do a lot of other shoppers and I hope this makes people think.

 

Not in my experience.

 

The maskless ones appear more 'Trumpian' in their righteous indignation, by the day.

 

The social divide feels almost as polorised as it was over Brexit.

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9 hours ago, purpleronnie said:

When I pick my nephew up from school often I'm the only one wearing a mask, I don't understand why so many don't want to wear them.

 

I walked past a primary school yesterday as the parents were picking the kids up.

 

No masks, no social distancing. 

 

But they'll be the first to complain when more restrictions come in.

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2 minutes ago, tom27111 said:

 

I walked past a primary school yesterday as the parents were picking the kids up.

 

No masks, no social distancing. 

 

But they'll be the first to complain when more restrictions come in.

But you don't need or have to wear masks outside. It's basically nigh on impossible to catch outside. Which pisses me.off even more that indoor cinemas are showing outdoor football matches in outdoor empty stadia

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3 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

But you don't need or have to wear masks outside. It's basically nigh on impossible to catch outside. Which pisses me.off even more that indoor cinemas are showing outdoor football matches in outdoor empty stadia

But groups of around 10 mums literally rubbing shoulders is ok? 

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