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54 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said:

How's this new job support scheme supposed to work? The chancellor has now reduced the employer contribution from 30% to 5%. Does this mean the employee will be another 25% out of money or are the government intended to pay 55% of an employees wages. 

Self employed get a massive 20% 

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10 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

Self employed get a massive 20% 

Going it alone does have it's benefits, but when you're paying class 2 NI, which is where the money comes from for state handouts, it can also be a bummer.

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8 hours ago, Bellend Sebastian said:

While I'm sympathetic to current students in as much as they certainly aren't having the university experience they expected or hoped for, the state of these:

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-54631524

 

They're not even the first students in LENTON to be hit with the biggest fine

You have to feel for them, their fun being stopped whilst everyone else is allowed to carry on as normal doing what they want.

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6 minutes ago, Corky said:

You have to feel for them, their fun being stopped whilst everyone else is allowed to carry on as normal doing what they want.

I cant remember being able to walk into the bank wearing a mask without the police being calling before the pandemic.    

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14 minutes ago, Costock_Fox said:

Don’t you filthy buggers be coming into the Eden like Blaby district spreading your parasites before I go to Scotland next Sunday please

I'm there already, I've been snogging everyone I can see

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9 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

Trying to get a test online but says I'm not allowed one, how do you get tested then?

Not sure how it works in England but in Scotland, if you phone a doctor and ask say you think you have a throat infection, they send you to get tested immediately. 

 

Happened to both my daughters even though we knew for sure it was an infection. 

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16 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

Trying to get a test online but says I'm not allowed one, how do you get tested then?

You're probably not compatible. I've heard they're only testing people to harvest kidneys. :nono:

 

#ConspiracyOfTheDay

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5 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

So the ONS survey shows around 32,500 cases per day by mid October 

 

Valance said 50k per day if nothing was done to check the spread 

 

I think a few owe him an apology ......

They won't. They'll be claiming he's paid off by big pharma and decrying "the cult of Whitty and Valence" because they were a week or so out when it actually has hit 50k (which it almost certainly has by now) - and that them missing the prediction by a few days has nothing to do with extra restrictions we've brought in in areas of high transmission because some Irish guy with 6 viewers on YouTube said it didn't.

 

Then claiming something about false positives something something.

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The NHS Covid app completey drained my dad's iPhone 7 within a few hours the other day. He said he was barely on his phone throughout the day. He deleted the app and the phone is fine now. Wonder what's the point in having an app if your phone is constantly dead. 

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9 minutes ago, Ian Nacho said:

The NHS Covid app completey drained my dad's iPhone 7 within a few hours the other day. He said he was barely on his phone throughout the day. He deleted the app and the phone is fine now. Wonder what's the point in having an app if your phone is constantly dead. 

I deleted the app, I had to have it for a trip to Butlins to check in to areas, but it was constantly telling me my postcode was in a medium risk. Didn't once change to tell me about the area I was actually in. 

 

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13 minutes ago, Ian Nacho said:

The NHS Covid app completey drained my dad's iPhone 7 within a few hours the other day. He said he was barely on his phone throughout the day. He deleted the app and the phone is fine now. Wonder what's the point in having an app if your phone is constantly dead. 

all that roaming data being used as well :O 

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5 minutes ago, browniefox said:

I deleted the app, I had to have it for a trip to Butlins to check in to areas, but it was constantly telling me my postcode was in a medium risk. Didn't once change to tell me about the area I was actually in. 

 

It only ever tells you the risk of your postcode. 

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On 22/10/2020 at 11:01, Alf Bentley said:

 

In effect, this has already been attempted - and it has failed.

 

In the summer, everything was opened up. Young people and those with no vulnerability resumed normal life, but most of the elderly and those with a vulnerability continued to act cautiously.

In the short-term, this led to increased levels of infection among the less vulnerable young, but not among the elderly/vulnerable - meaning low levels of hospitalisation and death......so far, so good, by your theory.

 

But that didn't last, did it? Hospitals and morgues are filling up - mainly with the elderly/vulnerable, but also with a few unlucky young/"invulnerable" people.

 

Do you believe that is because lots of elderly/vulnerable people who were "taking steps to protect themselves" in the summer suddenly stopped doing so?

I doubt it. I reckon that it's because this virus is highly contagious - and because a lot of people find it hard or impossible to avoid contact with younger generations.

 

Examples:

- Lots of uni students or workers in their 20s live with parents in their 50s/60s

- Lots of schoolkids have parents in their 50s or with vulnerabilities (I'm 58, have a vulnerability & live with my 16-year-old daughter who goes to college.....which of us should move out and where to?)

- Many elderly people live with middle-aged children with families, so people in their household go out to work or school or shopping/socialising

- A lot of elderly/vulnerable people who live alone would struggle to cope physically or mentally without visits from younger people, sometimes relations/friends, sometimes paid carers

- Some people who work and pay mortgages/rent have vulnerabilities (e.g. my 30-year-old nephew has twice had pneumonia; my fit 50-year-old mate, a teaching assistant, has diabetes)

 

You also do not say how long such isolation of older/vulnerable people would last. Most assessments reckon that still only a small proportion of the population has had Covid.....so such isolation could potentially last years.

Can you imagine isolating yourself and putting your life on hold for years? It would be intolerable, wouldn't it? Well, guess what.....it would be intolerable for older people, too. Most could tolerate it short-term with support, but not long-term.

The path we are on at the moment then!

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52 minutes ago, Ian Nacho said:

The NHS Covid app completey drained my dad's iPhone 7 within a few hours the other day. He said he was barely on his phone throughout the day. He deleted the app and the phone is fine now. Wonder what's the point in having an app if your phone is constantly dead. 

Yeah Bluetooth and a running app all day is a killer for battery life, most wont even bother.

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