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6 hours ago, Finnaldo said:


In thee two dose vaccines, does this first jab offer any protection? Or is it on the top-up that you’d hope to see immunisation?

 

4 hours ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

I'm not sure, neither of us have the medical background to understand it even if we did discuss it. 

 

6 hours ago, Dunge said:

I’m not sure how it might vary between manufacturers, but with the Pfizer one I remember them saying you could only start assuming any immunity about two weeks after the second dose.

i also heard that from the interviews i've seen. no one will have immunity from vaccination until the end of jan  - its about time that this message was drummed into the population. way too many are already thinking that this is over. too many have poor ability to concentrate for more than five seconds and the msm with their 'headlines' over the years are probably responsible for that.

 

the message from the govt is way too upbeat ….i'm all for keeping morale up but this last couple weeks has just seen a continuation of the mixed messaging that has blighted this govt since the pandemic started and has resulted in too many infections and too many deaths ….

 

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I guess Diwali celebrations would have an effect on infections. Much like people have said they'll break the rules for Christmas, you've got to imagine people would be meeting up with friends and family for Diwali, so I can't see them dropping for at least a week or so

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2 hours ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

 “The virus is taking a hold in all areas of the city, with some of the fastest-growing infection rates in Clarendon Park, Braunstone, West End, Stocking Farm and Mowmacre, Aylestone and Eyres Monsell.

The virus is spreading when people are meeting up with friends or family.”

 

Prof Ivan Browne

 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/7-parts-leicester-fastest-growing-4727170.amp
 

Another day, another statement. This vaccine can’t come quick enough. Some people are not interested in listening. 
 

Really don’t want to be restricted in tier 3 of this is the concern of the council.

 

 

I remember when some people loved framing it as an issue for only the Asian communities. 

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It's not spreading because of supermarkets, schools, colleges or universities then? The virus will no doubt spread when meeting up with friends and family, but this is only a small percentage of where it's spreading, even if the small number of people doing it stopped, it wouldn't reduce the case count by a couple of hundred a day.

 

It's just yet another statement to put the blame sorely at the feet of the public:frusty:

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26 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

I remember when some people loved framing it as an issue for only the Asian communities. 

Easy option which is usually linked to an intelligence issue. This is an unfortunate virus which spreads quickly even if in the main people are being as sensible as they can be. Let’s hope these vaccines finally put this horrible period to be !

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55 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/mass-flu-testing-coronavirus-matt-hancock-b1760978.html

 

'He asked: "Why in Britain do we think it's acceptable to soldier on and go into work if you have flu symptoms or a runny nose, thus making your colleagues ill?'

 

Probably because millions of people can't afford to have a week off work for what potentially could be a runny nose Matt, especially after the 6 months we've had.

He came across well during the start of the pandemic- the more he speaks now, the more he sounds like a patronising twat.

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Just seen Italy's numbers.

 

Only a few weeks ago people were saying they'd done a better job of controlling the virus than the UK, Spain, France and Germany, but now it's pretty clear its been worse.

 

Their 2nd wave deaths have now reached the same point as their first wave deaths and they accelerated way quicker than the other Western European countries too, that the curve looks pretty identical to the first wave.

 

There's definitely some kind of gerd immunity happening in New York and New Jersey though, those deaths haven't gone up as much as you'd think. And they're the regions with the highest percentage of deaths you can see on worldometer, with New Jersey having already had over 0.19% of it's population dying of covid, making it already pretty clear it's at least twice as deadly as flu.

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54 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/mass-flu-testing-coronavirus-matt-hancock-b1760978.html

 

'He asked: "Why in Britain do we think it's acceptable to soldier on and go into work if you have flu symptoms or a runny nose, thus making your colleagues ill?'

 

Probably because millions of people can't afford to have a week off work for what potentially could be a runny nose Matt, especially after the 6 months we've had.

He should probably start looking at needing to be on deaths door for some employers to understand you're sick. 

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1 hour ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/mass-flu-testing-coronavirus-matt-hancock-b1760978.html

 

'He asked: "Why in Britain do we think it's acceptable to soldier on and go into work if you have flu symptoms or a runny nose, thus making your colleagues ill?'

 

Probably because millions of people can't afford to have a week off work for what potentially could be a runny nose Matt, especially after the 6 months we've had.

Are we just having a go for having a go's sake again?

 

We are guilty of it thou as we don't want to show weakness & want to show the boss what hero's we are, do we not?  I would often be sat next to someone coughing & snotting away & within a week i've got myself a headcold.


I notice you also just extract 1 line without the rest of what he says for context, he's actually forward thinking in what he's saying as now we have this testing capacity lets use it not lose it.

We do have the British bulldog ego chip if you like we don't like to show weakness so he's saying we need to educate & brush that stigma off, get checked if you have a bug because maybe next time that person coughing & snotting away next to me it could be CV20 they are passing on, we need to learn the hygienic measures from all of this crap we have been through, would you be comfortable going back on the 3rd Dec & have someone spluttering away within your space, it wouldn't happen, so why does it need to happen once a vaccine comes along?

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Leicester’s cases have started to drop over the past five days, little mention of that though, they’d rather concentrate on our high infection rate and certain areas where the virus is supposedly accelerating. 
 

With the Christmas household announcement though, it will probably get extremely messy in January and the whole of the UK’s numbers will accelerate again, people won’t listen anyway, but to have approval from the Government is extremely risky business.

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18 minutes ago, BKLFox said:

Are we just having a go for having a go's sake again?

 

We are guilty of it thou as we don't want to show weakness & want to show the boss what hero's we are, do we not?  I would often be sat next to someone coughing & snotting away & within a week i've got myself a headcold.


I notice you also just extract 1 line without the rest of what he says for context, he's actually forward thinking in what he's saying as now we have this testing capacity lets use it not lose it.

We do have the British bulldog ego chip if you like we don't like to show weakness so he's saying we need to educate & brush that stigma off, get checked if you have a bug because maybe next time that person coughing & snotting away next to me it could be CV20 they are passing on, we need to learn the hygienic measures from all of this crap we have been through, would you be comfortable going back on the 3rd Dec & have someone spluttering away within your space, it wouldn't happen, so why does it need to happen once a vaccine comes along?

Maybe if someone who earned say £400 a week got more than £95 (last time I checked) in sick pay they'd be more inclined to do it. Additionally, you can easily be let go for reoccuring sickness. I work some lads who have about 8-10 sickness periods (periods, not days) a year, but because we're public sector it's encouraged and nobody really takes any notice. Compare that to a private firm where you're costing your employer money due to being off and they won't be so friendly.

 

Easy to say you should take the time off if you're comfortable, not so easy if you're a couple with only one of you working and on minimum wage.

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4 hours ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

 “The virus is taking a hold in all areas of the city, with some of the fastest-growing infection rates in Clarendon Park, Braunstone, West End, Stocking Farm and Mowmacre, Aylestone and Eyres Monsell.

The virus is spreading when people are meeting up with friends or family.”

 

Prof Ivan Browne

 

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/7-parts-leicester-fastest-growing-4727170.amp
 

Another day, another statement. This vaccine can’t come quick enough. Some people are not interested in listening. 
 

Really don’t want to be restricted in tier 3 of this is the concern of the council.

 

 

Hard to see how Leicester will be in any other tier and possibly the county too. Though infection levels are coming down they remain among the worst in the country in Leicester itself with the inevitable spill over into the county.

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9 minutes ago, Unabomber said:

Was it originally going to be more than 3 house holds could meet? Three isn’t many really is it.

Depends how you define a household? The bubble will be one so that could be say 5 people and two other households could be say 6 in each. So 17 people all mixing together.

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