whoareyaaa 2,500 Posted 8 December 2020 Report Share Posted 8 December 2020 18 hours ago, Leicester_Loyal said: https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/rita-ora-launching-probe-find-23101037 Definitely Only arsed about finding the leak! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StanSP 28,469 Posted 8 December 2020 Report Share Posted 8 December 2020 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Buce 11,892 Posted 8 December 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted 8 December 2020 2 minutes ago, StanSP said: I've just spent five minutes trying to work out why this was funny... Wrong bloody thread!! 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oxford blue 274 Posted 8 December 2020 Report Share Posted 8 December 2020 No doubt the Oxford vaccine will be rolled out very soon - makes particular sense in more isolated areas (because of typical vaccine refrigeration requirements) whist there is till the Pfizer vaccine available. The difficulty for regulators is whether to authorise the two full doses or a half dose (far more effective) followed by a full dose (where far fewer of volunteers received this). Perhaps those receiving it could have a choice, knowing both are safe; I'd choose the half dose to begin with even if there are fewer numbers to show its effectiveness. The great news is that there are sufficient vaccines ordered that have approval for everyone to get vaccinated - I think children are excluded from programme Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dahnsouff 5,736 Posted 8 December 2020 Report Share Posted 8 December 2020 Surely the Oxford vaccine is infinitely preferable if it is proven to be as effective. The cost and requirements are so much more achievable globally compared to the Pfizer one. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Countryfox 8,459 Posted 8 December 2020 Report Share Posted 8 December 2020 So we don’t know how long the vaccine will last and we don’t know if it will stop transmission ... obvious I suppose but probably like others I was getting all excited now the roll out has started ... bugger !! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
whoareyaaa 2,500 Posted 8 December 2020 Report Share Posted 8 December 2020 That Matt Hankcock interview on ITV to me it looks like he is laughing his bollox off rather than shedding tears of joy 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mark 'expert' Lawrenson 2,733 Posted 8 December 2020 Report Share Posted 8 December 2020 23 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said: That Matt Hankcock interview on ITV to me it looks like he is laughing his bollox off rather than shedding tears of joy Exactly. He’s laughing at the guys name and is not having some breakdown regarding the vaccination program starting. Talk about making something out of nothing! On a side note and making something out of nothing what’s going on with his haircut? Grimly hanging onto the little he has left which makes him look far older than he actually is. Totally irrelevant I know but these politicians need a makeover, where’s Gok wan, Trinny and Susannah when you need them, Boris with a cool trendy haircut we need to see it. Theres a TV program in there somewhere, AHA! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Parafox 2,762 Posted 8 December 2020 Report Share Posted 8 December 2020 3 minutes ago, Mark 'expert' Lawrenson said: Exactly. He’s laughing at the guys name and is not having some breakdown regarding the vaccination program starting. Talk about making something out of nothing! On a side note and making something out of nothing what’s going on with his haircut? Grimly hanging onto the little he has left which makes him look far older than he actually is. Totally irrelevant I know but these politicians need a makeover, where’s Gok wan, Trinny and Susannah when you need them, Boris with a cool trendy haircut we need to see it. Theres a TV program in there somewhere, AHA! I think they're still in 2002 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
worthosoriginals 1,365 Posted 8 December 2020 Report Share Posted 8 December 2020 1 hour ago, Dahnsouff said: Surely the Oxford vaccine is infinitely preferable if it is proven to be as effective. The cost and requirements are so much more achievable globally compared to the Pfizer one. Take yer pick on what you want from either vaccine, the pfizer one gives you autism and the Oxford one will turn you into a shapeshifting lizard. Whats my scientific evidence for this? Bloke on facebook said so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pliskin 2,785 Posted 8 December 2020 Report Share Posted 8 December 2020 5 hours ago, yorkie1999 said: But surely, everyone who didn't have a tracking chip inserted into them would be automatically killed by the aliens. 😂😂 he claims to be “deeply passionate” about space, yet has no formal qualifications to support his passion and thinks the measurement of a light year is wrong and we could easily travel to other galaxies in a matter of months. He only starts to talk sense when he’s pissed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Pliskin 2,785 Posted 8 December 2020 Report Share Posted 8 December 2020 I’m looking forward to having my vaccine. I’m not sure the nurse administering it will when she pulls the curtain back to my bare arse full mooning. 🌝 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Leicester_Loyal 5,401 Posted 9 December 2020 Report Share Posted 9 December 2020 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/12/08/v-day-watershed-moment-may-have-wear-masks-another-year/7 'The public may have to wear masks for another year, despite a “watershed moment” beginning Britain’s national vaccination programme, Sir Patrick Vallance has said.' We'll end up wearing masks for a long time yet, as well as social distancing IMO. **** sake just gets the clubs open, I've had enough, genuinely been an horrific year 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dsr-burnley 496 Posted 9 December 2020 Report Share Posted 9 December 2020 37 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/12/08/v-day-watershed-moment-may-have-wear-masks-another-year/7 'The public may have to wear masks for another year, despite a “watershed moment” beginning Britain’s national vaccination programme, Sir Patrick Vallance has said.' We'll end up wearing masks for a long time yet, as well as social distancing IMO. **** sake just gets the clubs open, I've had enough, genuinely been an horrific year "However, the joy was tempered by warnings from ministers that those who receive the vaccine should not be able to expect extra freedoms, such as to hug a grandchild." Why on earth not? What possible reasons does anyone have to say that a person who is vaccinated against coronavirus should not hug a person who by virtue of age is immune from coronavirus? Are they saying that old people cannot return to normal life until there is no risk that they will die? Because of the government's ambition is to achieve immortality, they will fail. I look forward to the first prosecution of someone who hugs a grandchild in their own home. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nod.E 2,332 Posted 9 December 2020 Report Share Posted 9 December 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Leicester_Loyal said: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/12/08/v-day-watershed-moment-may-have-wear-masks-another-year/7 'The public may have to wear masks for another year, despite a “watershed moment” beginning Britain’s national vaccination programme, Sir Patrick Vallance has said.' We'll end up wearing masks for a long time yet, as well as social distancing IMO. **** sake just gets the clubs open, I've had enough, genuinely been an horrific year Madness. Everyone get the vaccine in you and then carry on as you were. Apart from the obvious ridiculousness of this, it's not really the news we need now at a time that we need to maximise vaccination complicity. Not exactly a motivator when you realise the intention is for continued life in bubble wrapping. Just when I thought things might be starting to get sensible. Who gives a toss if Covid is still in transmission if it no longer poses a threat post vaccine? Edited 9 December 2020 by Nod.E 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StanSP 28,469 Posted 9 December 2020 Report Share Posted 9 December 2020 6 hours ago, dsr-burnley said: "However, the joy was tempered by warnings from ministers that those who receive the vaccine should not be able to expect extra freedoms, such as to hug a grandchild." Why on earth not? What possible reasons does anyone have to say that a person who is vaccinated against coronavirus should not hug a person who by virtue of age is immune from coronavirus? Are they saying that old people cannot return to normal life until there is no risk that they will die? Because of the government's ambition is to achieve immortality, they will fail. I look forward to the first prosecution of someone who hugs a grandchild in their own home. 5 hours ago, Nod.E said: Madness. Everyone get the vaccine in you and then carry on as you were. Apart from the obvious ridiculousness of this, it's not really the news we need now at a time that we need to maximise vaccination complicity. Not exactly a motivator when you realise the intention is for continued life in bubble wrapping. Just when I thought things might be starting to get sensible. Who gives a toss if Covid is still in transmission if it no longer poses a threat post vaccine? Isn't this because they don't know how long immunity of the vaccine against COVID lasts? So if someone gets the vaccine and goes back to normal, then a few months down the line the immunity is weakened and they're hugging like there's no tomorrow, and they get COVID, are we not just back to square one? I don't blame them for still being cautious. It's a brand new vaccine. Yes it has been tested and regulated but it's still in the world of the unknown as to how long it can protect you for. If they said go back to normal life, we'll be saying 'why did they tell us to go back to normal when they didn't know how long we are immune for?' Until they know for certain, they'll continue to proceed with caution and give out the warnings about masks and socially distancing. That's also the reason why I don't like them putting a date on these things...' back to normal by Easter... We'll have a great summer...'. How do they know? How do Johnson and Hancock (as they were the ones that said it) know this? Their track record of overpromising and under-delivering works heavily against them when they come out with stuff like this? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Line-X 2,912 Posted 9 December 2020 Report Share Posted 9 December 2020 8 hours ago, Leicester_Loyal said: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/12/08/v-day-watershed-moment-may-have-wear-masks-another-year/7 'The public may have to wear masks for another year, despite a “watershed moment” beginning Britain’s national vaccination programme, Sir Patrick Vallance has said.' We'll end up wearing masks for a long time yet, as well as social distancing IMO. **** sake just gets the clubs open, I've had enough, genuinely been an horrific year Given the horrific levels of particulates/urban pollution that we are living with, depending upon your location, continuing to wear an N95 respirator may be a prudent move - particularly if cycling to work. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dsr-burnley 496 Posted 9 December 2020 Report Share Posted 9 December 2020 1 hour ago, StanSP said: Isn't this because they don't know how long immunity of the vaccine against COVID lasts? So if someone gets the vaccine and goes back to normal, then a few months down the line the immunity is weakened and they're hugging like there's no tomorrow, and they get COVID, are we not just back to square one? I don't blame them for still being cautious. It's a brand new vaccine. Yes it has been tested and regulated but it's still in the world of the unknown as to how long it can protect you for. If they said go back to normal life, we'll be saying 'why did they tell us to go back to normal when they didn't know how long we are immune for?' Until they know for certain, they'll continue to proceed with caution and give out the warnings about masks and socially distancing. That's also the reason why I don't like them putting a date on these things...' back to normal by Easter... We'll have a great summer...'. How do they know? How do Johnson and Hancock (as they were the ones that said it) know this? Their track record of overpromising and under-delivering works heavily against them when they come out with stuff like this? It is. But I don't believe that fear of going back to square 1 should stop us from going to square 2. Vaccine immunity, if limited, will not be limited to a set time. We won't be in the position of one day herd immunity, next day everyone is vulnerable. So they will notice if immunity is weakening and can roll out a top-up. As it stands, over the past year, the average over-80 has had an 11% chance of dying. In a normal year, it is only 10%. All these restrictions have been with the intention of holding that number down as low as possible and stop it rising to (absolute worst case forecast) 20% - a forecast which we now know from worldwide experience wouldn't have come true anyway. But if the vaccine does take hold and - even if only temporarily - and the death rate goes back to "only" 10%, should we reintroduce these severe restrictions - which, on old people, are desperately severe, because their entire social life has been taken from them - because we fear the death rate might rise back to 11% and we want to reduce it to 10.1%? This is the point about old people. They know they are going to die. They aren't (unlike certain members of the government) trying to achieve immortality. They want to balance the risk of dying with the enjoyment of life, and the post-vaccine risk of dying without coronavirus is in those terms insignificant. Put it simply. Lockdown because a pandemic is happening makes an unpleasant sort of sense. Lockdown because we haven't got a pandemic but are afraid we might, does not. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dahnsouff 5,736 Posted 9 December 2020 Report Share Posted 9 December 2020 1 hour ago, StanSP said: Isn't this because they don't know how long immunity of the vaccine against COVID lasts? So if someone gets the vaccine and goes back to normal, then a few months down the line the immunity is weakened and they're hugging like there's no tomorrow, and they get COVID, are we not just back to square one? I don't blame them for still being cautious. It's a brand new vaccine. Yes it has been tested and regulated but it's still in the world of the unknown as to how long it can protect you for. If they said go back to normal life, we'll be saying 'why did they tell us to go back to normal when they didn't know how long we are immune for?' Until they know for certain, they'll continue to proceed with caution and give out the warnings about masks and socially distancing. That's also the reason why I don't like them putting a date on these things...' back to normal by Easter... We'll have a great summer...'. How do they know? How do Johnson and Hancock (as they were the ones that said it) know this? Their track record of overpromising and under-delivering works heavily against them when they come out with stuff like this? Tend to agree. It also grates when the whole "trust the science" campaign gets effectively ignored when people want to know when we can return to normal. (Which I guess is what you were saying, but more eloquently than I have) Do people not accept these two things may well be at odds with each other?? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Izzy 23,514 Posted 9 December 2020 Report Share Posted 9 December 2020 13 hours ago, Pliskin said: I’m looking forward to having my vaccine. I’m not sure the nurse administering it will when she pulls the curtain back to my bare arse full mooning. 🌝 I thought you had the vaccine jab in your arm, so why would you show the nurse your bare arse you sicko Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Super_horns 927 Posted 9 December 2020 Report Share Posted 9 December 2020 Oh dear - doesn’t sound good. https://mobile.twitter.com/chippawa3/status/133661160519126630 Hope whoever has been affected is ok. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Innovindil 2,912 Posted 9 December 2020 Report Share Posted 9 December 2020 5 minutes ago, Super_horns said: Oh dear - doesn’t sound good. https://mobile.twitter.com/chippawa3/status/133661160519126630 Hope whoever has been affected is ok. Sorry, that page doesn’t exist! Why not try a search to find something else? What was it? Mildly curious. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
filbertway 2,888 Posted 9 December 2020 Author Report Share Posted 9 December 2020 7 minutes ago, Innovindil said: Sorry, that page doesn’t exist! Why not try a search to find something else? What was it? Mildly curious. https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1370264/Pfizer-vaccine-warning-covid-regulator-allergic-reaction-warning-latest Couple of people with history of allergies had an allergic reaction and are both recovering fine. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jon the Hat 4,362 Posted 9 December 2020 Report Share Posted 9 December 2020 8 minutes ago, filbertway said: https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1370264/Pfizer-vaccine-warning-covid-regulator-allergic-reaction-warning-latest Couple of people with history of allergies had an allergic reaction and are both recovering fine. Interesting that they decided to take it in the first place. You would have to be very concerned about covid Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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