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2 minutes ago, Legend_in_blue said:

Any number of people flooding out of London is irrelevant.  They will put everyone in tier 4 regardless.  This is an experiment to see how the latest measure takes effect.  You can't blame people leaving London!

The specifically said not to and are putting in these Tier 4 measures to try and contain the spread across the rest of the country? Whether the measures will work is another matter, but everyone has a responsibility at least try and make it work by abiding by the rules. 

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17 minutes ago, Greg2607 said:

The good news, is that judging by the number of people flooding out of London last night, we will all get to enjoy tier 4 before long. 

 

Utter morons. 

 

7 minutes ago, rachhere said:

The specifically said not to and are putting in these Tier 4 measures to try and contain the spread across the rest of the country? Whether the measures will work is another matter, but everyone has a responsibility at least try and make it work by abiding by the rules. 

What if they were going home and couldn't stay in London? 

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8 hours ago, hejammy said:

You do know that people of all ages have died from this don't you? My next door neighbour, 34 with absolutely no underlying conditions suffered from 2 heart attacks and a stroke as a result of covid-19. I'd like to type out a whole load of adjectives here but I feel like what's the point. You say you don't mix with at risk groups but what if you caught it on one of your numourous endeavours, passed it onto your child who passed it on to another child in their class who does live with an elderly relative or someone at risk? 

 

The point is we're all in this together and if people like yourselves thinks "f the rules and the government" - "I can make better decisions than scientists who have been studying this and have the best knowledge about it, cause I'm hard you see" then we're going to all fail. 

 

I'm sorry but the only way I can describe this behaviour is selfish. 

 

Hey, you make good points and I realise my comments last night sounded provocative 

 

You can't legislate for freak incidents like your poor neighbour suffered. Bad things happen everyday, not just covid. 

 

I don't ignore the scientists or think i can make better decisions. I think I can make better decisions than the government. As an example, I'd no intention of visiting family this xmas. Last night's reversal  make no odds to me personally. It was a dreadful, dreadful decision to encourage people, with a nudge and a wink,  to do so in the first place..

 

 the tut tutting of 'rule breakers' like me are often the same people.packing their house out over Christmas Day and Boxing Day, just because Boris (originally) said it was allowed.  

 

Sorry, a crap long winded answer this, but my various (sometimes silly).posts are mainly aimed at people unable to work this out for themselves and blindly follow this idiot government. Listen to the scientists, I agree. But take a pinch of salt of anything this total idiot government  has to say. 

 

 

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16 hours ago, Kingleicester said:

Isn’t this a new sort of virus spreading more rapidly, I don’t know what your point is 

Because only the other day(Friday) you pulled me up when I said Boris should be more honest as in regards him being honest with the public, him saying he’s hoping not to go have another lockdown and then the very next day putting the whole of London into a new tier 4, which is basically another lockdown.

In a previous post you mentioned he didn’t have mystic Meg on his cabinet, well i would suggest he didn’t need mystic Meg to realise hospital admissions will always increase at this time of year “new sort of virus or not” 


 

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Got to laugh at LNER's ticket voucher process.

 

If you are getting advanced ticket you have to upload a picture of your e-ticket, even if you've given your booking reference. The e-ticket only downloads to a PC as a PDF. Needless to say, you can only upload JPEGs.

 

Couldnt make it up and sums up 2020 in a nutshell.

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33 minutes ago, Legend_in_blue said:

Any number of people flooding out of London is irrelevant.  They will put everyone in tier 4 regardless.  This is an experiment to see how the latest measure takes effect.  You can't blame people leaving London!

Well you can if the transmission of a virus that is known pass between people more easily, suddenly accelerates across the UK because people have taken it from the south east to the rest of the country. 

 

It wasn't hard messaging to understand was it. DONT travel outside of a tier 4 area.  

 

I'm affected by the new restrictions.  My Christmas is cancelled. My kids won't see grandparents as I have the kids on boxing day. But guess what, I'm adhering to the guidelines. 

 

As it turns out, my father in law is in the extremely vulnerable category and we are his support bubble. So since march, I haven't been to the pub, haven't been out for a meal, haven't been on holiday. Haven't gone to the shops, haven't travelled to the coast.

 

All to protect him. 

 

But clearly we live in a society where we are all happy to clap the nurses, but not stick to rules when it directly impacts our plans.

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52 minutes ago, Legend_in_blue said:

Any number of people flooding out of London is irrelevant.  They will put everyone in tier 4 regardless.  This is an experiment to see how the latest measure takes effect.  You can't blame people leaving London!

Flippant, so assume joking.

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43 minutes ago, MonmoreStef said:

Not just London as Peterborough are in tier 4. No real warning and banged into a new tier.  

Before they've given 2 or 3 days notice and been laughed at when people ignore the rules or go mad in the days before. I'm not defending their actions, simply say we had it the other way and they were criticised. 

 

48 minutes ago, Samilktray said:

I think it’s very easy to criticise those people leaving London if you’re spending Christmas with people you love. Must be absolutely grim being alone this time of year for anyone. Those people aren’t the real problem here tbh 

It was an awful position to be put in, and I sympathise with the stress and panic those people must've been put under.

 

But, I will say from a purely theoretical point, that we've been told the South and SE have this new easily transmissible strain and people are packing onto trains and going to spend time with family. 

 

Even a lockdown announced for today 3 or 4 days ago would've led to the same result.

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1 minute ago, Greg2607 said:

Go on then..... Tell me why they couldn't stay in London. Entertain me. 

They might have travelled to London yesterday with no plans to stay over. Then they get shoved in to tier 4 and now go back home? 

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12 hours ago, Mickyblueeyes said:

 

“There undoubtedly morons in all communities. But the postcode stats don't lie and nor do my own eyes from what I've seen of my neighbours and my parents neighbours.

 

There are vast sections of the Asian community that have totally ignored social distancing and social bubbles since day 1. Rules are for other people in many people's eyes. “


Above are your comments immediately after the Leicester lockdown was announced. You’ve now admitted that you followed the same principles of the “vast” amount of Asian people (vast being based on seeing your and your parents neighbours actions) you criticised back then. 
 

You may think you’re undertaking a “common sense” approach. However, it takes one contact, with one individual to then have contact with someone “at risk” to place this country at risk. Now, you thanked “sections of the Asian community” (ps Asia is actually a vast area it probably needs to be reduced as to who you’re referring to) for the second Leicester lockdown. Do we thank “people like you” for the latest restrictions ? 

Racist as well as a moron lol

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Had a test this morning. Not pleasant but certainly doable. Mostly for my own peace of mind following a couple of groups isolating at the school I've been at. 

Could have done without being treated like a muppet by some of the staff but hey ho. 

Checked case numbers - 15 last week in the area I work in (north Manchester school) and 12 in my Peak District area. Really don't feel too concerned, at this point. 

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14 hours ago, Paninistickers said:

This is what sends me potty. Literally from day 1, I haven't adhered to any government law. I can work things out for myself. I dont need that posh amoral  caant to tell me what to do and not to do. 

 

I've travelled in Leicester lockdown,  been on holidays, been abroad, planes, ignored self isolation, had friends round to stay, been round freinds to stay, had the kids at school, let the kids play with mates, sleepovers l, pubs, restaurants, jogged, cycled etc etc....this govt is a shitshow and I've used my common sense from day 1.

 

Hands. Face. Space. And having common decency.  Avoided older people. I've neither caught it nor given it to anyone. 

 

 

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I think the majority of people are generally following the rules, but making judgement calls here and there using their own common sense. This is how it should be, but you simply can't legislate for the few who flagrantly disregard the rules on a regular basis and don't really see or care about the bigger picture. We're all also human, and we all make mistakes from time to time.

 

I'm going back to Leicester to see my mum and dad for a few days. I will drive, and I won't be seeing anyone else. I'll be getting a test tomorrow which although is no guarantee, it's about as much as I can do. I've only seen my parents once this year and my sister lives on the other side of the planet - the government can shove it if they think I'm not going to go and see them for Christmas.

 

The biggest issue here for me is this shambolic self serving government 100%, not the people. The government doesn't give a toss about anyone other than themselves and their mates, and if we're all angry at each other for wanting to see our parents or our kids, I'm sure they'll not mind too much. Diverts attention from how incompetent they are, and how easily they've gotten away with diverting billions of pounds of public money into the coffers of their friends for contracts they are in no way shape or form qualified to deliver.


Good evening my cabinet chums, would any of you care to join me in a festive rendition of divide & conquer? 

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