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6 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

You think people can run with a respiratory infection? 

You can have for days and feel no effect. You can be completely asymptomatic through the whole thing.

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3 hours ago, Paninistickers said:

That's the English for you, in a nutshell. Nudge, wink, tut tut, look at them. Throw the book at 'em.

 

Except for 'visiting me mam', babysitting  sister's kids, popping  round my best mate's, just gonna nip in here for 5. Won't hurt. I've  got anxiety, so it's ok

 

Not that I'm having a pop at the above (I happily admit to making my own rules up and ignoring the shifting sands of govt) ....I object to the general public's laughable double standards

 

Edit to add i use 'English' deliberately..generalisation i know, but I've always felt the jocks, taffs and irish have a much stronger sense of community than english do. 

It's actually a fairly standard finding across cultures. Ask people to rate their anything (intelligence, attractiveness, loyalty) relative to others, and most people will say they're above average. The only real surprise is that it is 9 in 10, which is much higher than usual

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2 hours ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

On the brighter side you'll soon be ike 60% or so (once the first dosage kicks in) more immune from COVID than you were a yesterday.

 

Always thinking positive:sweating:

 

Yup-  just needed to get that rant out of the system!   Better to do it on an anonymous internet forum than moaning about it at my wife lol

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2 hours ago, The Blur said:

Went for my first vaccine today as I work as a social worker in adults social services.   I received an email yesterday and organised an appointment for today which were really efficient.    However I was then informed that my vaccination (Pfizer)  would be eleven weeks apart- my second dosage would be end of March.

 

It felt like a kick in teeth to be honest,  through this pandemic I have been in contact with service users and have went in their homes placing a risk on my own health.   Last few weeks have been quite bit tough as my wife is now pregnant which along with the new variant has added to the anxiety.    Now, I cannot even have the vaccination and to be protected by the government properly in the return-   I was even handed a empty vaccination card with none of details-  name of the vaccine and batch numbers written down and was advised that they have stopped handing out completed vaccination cards as there were not enough time to do so.   I have just hope that my consent form would be filed properly with the vaccination information.

 

I am thoroughly disillusioned with the government at the moment.    I have heard other vaccination centres are more organised and other keyworkers are getting their second vaccination more quickly so fingers crossed that my/organisation’s case is an isolated example.   People manning the vaccination centre were great and helpful for us all although-  cannot fault their attitude.  

Actually, as the vaccine doesn't stop you getting the virus, or transmitting it, it just stops you getting ill from it, I think anyone who isn't in a vulnerable category should be bloody grateful to be bumped up the list. I appreciate the need for nurses etc to continue to work and not be ill with this even if its just a few days at home in bed, but there are people who's life this vaccine could genuinely save who are being bumped down the list for people who are very unlikely to get extremely ill or die from it. I apologise if you do have an underlying health condition, but if you don't, just be grateful you're quite high on the list rather than moan about the experience. They said last week they were extending the time between the 1st and second vaccine to enable them to get more first vaccinces in, and get more people with some initial protection. In other words, you probably wouldn't be having the first one yet had they not done that.

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Joggers and anyone else walking down the street will both exhale the same amount of air. 
 

You can see what a jogger exhale because of temperature difference what comes from their mouth and nose compared to someone walking at their normal speed. 
 

Alongside this is about the length of exposure - a jogger is more likely to be a short period. It’s the reasoning a lot of team sports were permitted at grassroots level because the actual time you were in a two metre radius was shorter than the ‘15 minutes’ 
 

Come on let’s not be daft here. Fcuking hell. Outdoor transmission is rare with good space between people 

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1 hour ago, The Guvnor said:

lol

In all seriousness though communicate ffs.

I did have a mature jogger shout well in advance jogger behind you passing on your left, gave me time for me and my dog to move out the way.

Now that wasn't fcuking difficult was it.

I agree that alot of joggers could be a little more courteous, my point is it works both ways. I'll often run on the road to avoid oncoming walkers if safe to do so, but I've lost count of how many said walkers won't make the slightest effort to shift onto the pavement slightly further to maintain as much distance as possible.

 

Its also worth remembering many people are running to help with their mental well-being. Also I try and hold my breath when I'm passing people which leaves me gasping for air by the time I'm clear of them lol

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1 hour ago, yorkie1999 said:

In some cases yes, I bet some of these footballers testing positive didn’t know they had it.

The effect "joggers' will be having on the rate of spread will be tiny to the point of absolute irrelevance. Total waste of time even worrying about it.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9140263/New-curbs-days-away-insiders-say.html

 

'New curbs may be DAYS away: Estate agents could be closed, markets shut and meeting for exercise banned to stop surge in Covid-19 cases unless people start obeying the guidelines, Britons are warned'

 

Yep, the blame is now being shifted onto the public, shocking. Leicester City itself has been in lockdown for almost 10 months and it's still not stopped cases.

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4 hours ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9140263/New-curbs-days-away-insiders-say.html

 

'New curbs may be DAYS away: Estate agents could be closed, markets shut and meeting for exercise banned to stop surge in Covid-19 cases unless people start obeying the guidelines, Britons are warned'

 

Yep, the blame is now being shifted onto the public, shocking. Leicester City itself has been in lockdown for almost 10 months and it's still not stopped cases.

Really scratching my head here. What is informing the decision to increase restrictions? It’s morbid and horrid to say but the damage is done on deaths and hospitalisations as they are the result of decisions made in mid December.
 

Whilst the cases aren’t the most affecting statistic in their impact directly to infrastructure, we have had the second day of downward trend in comparison to a week ago which suggests things are beginning to take affect. Particularly in London and Kent where the restrictions have had the longest to take affect
 

Unsurprisingly the areas where the government kept them at Tier 2 such as Liverpool aren’t showing this pattern but the damage is unfortunately done there. It’s the fall out of allowing indoor environments to be open until Boxing Day 

 

There is this constant debate about the public’s compliance but at the moment we are beginning to see a tiny bit of hope when it comes to infection rates. 
 

Fingers crossed we have a third day of downward trend compared to the previous week - Wednesday is always a bit of a shocker when it comes to the stats because of the lag 

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21 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

Really scratching my head here. What is informing the decision to increase restrictions? It’s morbid and horrid to say but the damage is done on deaths and hospitalisations as they are the result of decisions made in mid December.
 

Whilst the cases aren’t the most affecting statistic in their impact directly to infrastructure, we have had the second day of downward trend in comparison to a week ago which suggests things are beginning to take affect. Particularly in London and Kent where the restrictions have had the longest to take affect
 

Unsurprisingly the areas where the government kept them at Tier 2 such as Liverpool aren’t showing this pattern but the damage is unfortunately done there. It’s the fall out of allowing indoor environments to be open until Boxing Day 

 

There is this constant debate about the public’s compliance but at the moment we are beginning to see a tiny bit of hope when it comes to infection rates. 
 

Fingers crossed we have a third day of downward trend compared to the previous week - Wednesday is always a bit of a shocker when it comes to the stats because of the lag 

Because the government messed up putting us into lockdown far too late and are now trying to control that it's the public's fault and as punishment there should be tighter restrictions, despite falling case numbers.

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10 hours ago, Facecloth said:

A jogger did exactly that to me today. Right in my face, as he ran towards me. Wearing all black so I couldn't even stand back and let him pass as the path narrowed because I didn't see him coming. I'm very relaxed about briefly passing people outside, but not if they are going breath heavily in my face.

It wouldn't be difficult for all joggers to wear a snood, as you're approaching anyone pull it up over your mouth and nose and when you have passed pull it back down.

That's what my son does when he's out running.

Simples.

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29 minutes ago, The Guvnor said:

It wouldn't be difficult for all joggers to wear a snood, as you're approaching anyone pull it up over your mouth and nose and when you have passed pull it back down.

That's what my son does when he's out running.

Simples.

Agreed. This is exactly what i do. In these times its just a common courtesy.

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11 hours ago, Bellend Sebastian said:

Could we be headed into a golden age where being a massive c*** actually has consequences?

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-55633245

 

An arrest does not appear on all criminal records checks, but it does on some. Imagine if you went for a job and you had to explain that

Hopefully so. God knows we need some law and order in this country 

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10 hours ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

Joggers and anyone else walking down the street will both exhale the same amount of air. 
 

You can see what a jogger exhale because of temperature difference what comes from their mouth and nose compared to someone walking at their normal speed. 
 

Alongside this is about the length of exposure - a jogger is more likely to be a short period. It’s the reasoning a lot of team sports were permitted at grassroots level because the actual time you were in a two metre radius was shorter than the ‘15 minutes’ 
 

Come on let’s not be daft here. Fcuking hell. Outdoor transmission is rare with good space between people 

 

That is palpabably untrue.

 

Any increase in effort causes an increase in rate of respiration.

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10 hours ago, Facecloth said:

Actually, as the vaccine doesn't stop you getting the virus, or transmitting it, it just stops you getting ill from it, I think anyone who isn't in a vulnerable category should be bloody grateful to be bumped up the list. I appreciate the need for nurses etc to continue to work and not be ill with this even if its just a few days at home in bed, but there are people who's life this vaccine could genuinely save who are being bumped down the list for people who are very unlikely to get extremely ill or die from it. I apologise if you do have an underlying health condition, but if you don't, just be grateful you're quite high on the list rather than moan about the experience. They said last week they were extending the time between the 1st and second vaccine to enable them to get more first vaccinces in, and get more people with some initial protection. In other words, you probably wouldn't be having the first one yet had they not done that.

 

That is a fair point.   My main concern was that the government were rushing the vaccination through by their decision to increase the interval between two dosages and lack of documentation for the vaccination cards which made me wondered whether if there are any corner cutting in the whole process to meet their targets/promises as they have a track record of questionable decision making.  I just hope everyone do get adequate protection in the end and that the decisions were made for right reasons.  

 

However like you said and on the reflection afterwards,  I am still grateful nervetheless for my family and my health and also for service users that I work with health as well.   

 

Apologies if I came across as ungrateful and selfish.   Just needed to have a quick vent to clear my head and get on with my life.   Stay safe fellow.  

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