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26 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

These early leaked roadmaps on social media are very very worrying, I hope it's nothing like they're saying. I guess we'll find out on Monday.


Have you got any examples? What’s the jist? I haven’t seen any media sources reporting on roadmaps and they love a leak so I wouldn’t be too worried.

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26 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

These early leaked roadmaps on social media are very very worrying, I hope it's nothing like they're saying. I guess we'll find out on Monday.

 

Prepare for the worst.  The fact that the media have given airtime to more ott Imperial modelling this week suggests it's an indication of what is to come in next week's slide presentation.

 

Also someone I know, despite being vaccinated two weeks ago, has now been told to stay indoors until March 31st at the earliest.

 

It doesn't bode well.

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The fact nurseries have stayed open throughout the latest lockdown and I've not heard any particular bad stories about cases suggests that at least early years primary school could return in reasonable confidence. Can only speak from personal experience of course, but my son's nursery has managed to get through the latest lockdown with a single case, and this is with little to no social distancing, staff aren't even wearing masks, well they don't at pick-up or collection times anyway. I appreciate we live in an smaller area and no big sign of any variants yet. 

 

I know expecting kids to social distance amongst themselves is difficult but surely teachers should be able to social distance themselves from kids for most of the day? Be different in special support schools obviously but in mainstream schools it's possible to limit contact.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Finnaldo said:


Have you got any examples? What’s the jist? I haven’t seen any media sources reporting on roadmaps and they love a leak so I wouldn’t be too worried.

 

2 minutes ago, Legend_in_blue said:

 

Prepare for the worst.  The fact that the media have given airtime to more ott Imperial modelling this week suggests it's an indication of what is to come in next week's slide presentation.

 

Also someone I know, despite being vaccinated two weeks ago, has now been told to stay indoors until March 31st at the earliest.

 

It doesn't bode well.

What DavieG said.

 

Telegraph also reporting we'll continue to lockdown until there's less than 1k cases per day.

 

Obviously could be bollocks but we know this Government love a leak.

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23 minutes ago, RowlattsFox said:

The fact nurseries have stayed open throughout the latest lockdown and I've not heard any particular bad stories about cases suggests that at least early years primary school could return in reasonable confidence. Can only speak from personal experience of course, but my son's nursery has managed to get through the latest lockdown with a single case, and this is with little to no social distancing, staff aren't even wearing masks, well they don't at pick-up or collection times anyway. I appreciate we live in an smaller area and no big sign of any variants yet. 

 

I know expecting kids to social distance amongst themselves is difficult but surely teachers should be able to social distance themselves from kids for most of the day? Be different in special support schools obviously but in mainstream schools it's possible to limit contact.

 

 

 

 

 

 

There was an outbreak at my kids' nursery here in SE London at the beginning of Feb. 4 kids and 4 staff ended up testing positive. Should say cases in my part of the country were extremely high generally at that point.

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44 minutes ago, davieG said:

According to the Mail

 

Image result for Road Map out of lock down

 

41 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

 

What DavieG said.

 

Telegraph also reporting we'll continue to lockdown until there's less than 1k cases per day.

 

Obviously could be bollocks but we know this Government love a leak.


Thanks lads. 
 

Am I reading into this wrong but outdoor sport are available from April but ‘leisure will be back to normal in July’? So gyms aren’t open until July? 

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21 minutes ago, martyn said:

There was an outbreak at my kids' nursery here in SE London at the beginning of Feb. 4 kids and 4 staff ended up testing positive. Should say cases in my part of the country were extremely high generally at that point.

As posted above my Granddaughter and her teacher have both got it and passed it on to my son, don't the extent of it at her school though.

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Covid-19: World's first human trials given green light in UK
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Healthy, young volunteers will be infected with coronavirus to test vaccines and treatments in the world's first Covid-19 "human challenge" study, which will take place in the UK.

The study, which has received ethics approval, will start in the next few weeks and recruit 90 people aged 18-30.

They will be exposed to the virus in a safe and controlled environment while medics monitor their health.

The UK has given doses of a Covid vaccine to more than 15 million people.

Human challenge studies have played a vital role in pushing the development of treatments for a number of diseases, including malaria, typhoid, cholera and flu.

How will we know if the vaccine is working?
When will lockdown rules be reviewed?
Oxford-AstraZeneca jab to be tested on children
The trials will help scientists work out the smallest amount of coronavirus needed to cause infection, and how the body's immune system reacts to it.

This will give doctors a better understanding of Covid-19, the disease caused by the virus, which will feed into the development of vaccines and treatments.

 

More about it here - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56097088

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-56095795

 

'Some Scottish school pupils could be partly taught from home indefinitely, the education secretary has acknowledged.'

 

'Seamus Searson, general secretary at the Scottish Secondary Teachers' Association, said it important that social distancing was enforced in secondary schools.

He added: "We also would like to see that pupils wear face coverings at all times. And equally and more importantly for us is that when youngsters refuse then they shouldn't be allowed to be in school."'

 

We're genuinely going to have a whole generation massively disadvantaged, it's tragic.

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1 hour ago, StanSP said:

 

 

Wow.

 

What's the rationale behind our maximisation of first doses? Looking at this data, you'd think lockdown measures could be eased more rapidly if the 15,000,000 doses had have been delivered to far fewer people. I think I read we have about 500k people that have had both jabs. Wouldn't it have made more sense for that number to be closer to 7.5 million, with the same number of total doses administered?

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22 minutes ago, Nod.E said:

Wow.

 

What's the rationale behind our maximisation of first doses? Looking at this data, you'd think lockdown measures could be eased more rapidly if the 15,000,000 doses had have been delivered to far fewer people. I think I read we have about 500k people that have had both jabs. Wouldn't it have made more sense for that number to be closer to 7.5 million, with the same number of total doses administered?

I think the thinking is that the majority of protection is gained after the first dose anyway, with the second topping it up. I would imagine that the steep decline is because it's about 3-4 weeks after vaccinations began. It's a very uneducated guess though haha

 

In other news, the bbc seems to have ran out of stuff to talk about. Every day for the past 2 weeks it's been the same "news". 

 

Re-opening will be cautious

There's no plans for vaccine passports in the UK

 

The level of journalism is horrendous.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Nod.E said:

Wow.

 

What's the rationale behind our maximisation of first doses? Looking at this data, you'd think lockdown measures could be eased more rapidly if the 15,000,000 doses had have been delivered to far fewer people. I think I read we have about 500k people that have had both jabs. Wouldn't it have made more sense for that number to be closer to 7.5 million, with the same number of total doses administered?

Israel is much smaller than the U.K. and they had in proportion a far higher number of doses available.
 

The  first dose of the vaccine starts to be significantly effective from week 3 and so will only impact hospitalisations a couple of weeks later.

 

The uk view ( which is unproven as yet) is that the graph would look much the same if the Israelis had delayed the second dose, and that for the U.K. with a more limited supply it was better to give 15M people 75% protection rather than 7.5M people 80%.

 

The percentages may differ between the two vaccines, but the U.K. view is that the second dose gives a small added benefit and is more about building a longer term protection.

 

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