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2 hours ago, Facecloth said:

There was a post in the Phunny Photos thread the other day about the guy who was 6ft2 but the drs had him down as 6.2cm, so his BMI was massive and he got the vaccine call. Got me thinking though, how many people potentially fall into a vulnerable group due to weight, but the drs don't know about it. I haven't been weighed at my drs for years, and I don't know many that have. I have put on a bit during lockdown, but I doubt I fall into a vulnerable group, but there's bound to be a few that are in danger without the NHS knowing.

Tbf there's the most simplest bmi calculator on the NHS website and people can weigh themselves. Shouldn't be needing to pay gp's for something anyone can do. Unless of course people are too fat to use at home scales, in which case I'd just go by the assumption your bmi is high and you should contact your gp. Took me all of 20 seconds. 

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A note of caution, the ZOE symptom checker which has been a good precursor to official figures had plateaued over the last week, and has now shown a slight increase in estimated daily cases over the last 3 days (1%, 1% and today at 3%).

 

They need to establish if reported side effects of the vaccine are contributing to the figures, but worth keeping an eye on.

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2 minutes ago, Innovindil said:

Tbf there's the most simplest bmi calculator on the NHS website and people can weigh themselves. Shouldn't be needing to pay gp's for something anyone can do. Unless of course people are too fat to use at home scales, in which case I'd just go by the assumption your bmi is high and you should contact your gp. Took me all of 20 seconds. 

People won't admit it as Alf pointed out. Shame, head in sand kind of attitude.

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59 minutes ago, Facecloth said:

People won't admit it as Alf pointed out. Shame, head in sand kind of attitude.

Don't see why they wouldn't. Right now it takes a bmi of 40 to qualify for a vaccine doesn't it, as someone near that mark, I can safely say anyone pushing it already knows they are fat. 

 

With that said people are daft anyways. One of my mum's mates is currently doing the NHS vaccine people who can't get out their own homes. Visited 19 people over the weekend, 9 of them accepted the vaccine. Baffling. 

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6 hours ago, Col city fan said:

I’m glad you’ve finally seen the light. It’s just a shame it’s taken so long

The UK is almost impossible to govern now. Yes, the politicians have made mistakes, but I look at so many people in this country now (you can see it on this very forum too) and it makes me shake my head in disbelief. 

I've come to the conclusion that it's a bit of both. Government are useless but as a population we don't help ourselves, either.

 

Having said that, I'm not sure how much more unruly Brits are vs. other nations. 

 

I generally have little faith in human beings, British or otherwise.

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36 minutes ago, Nod.E said:

I've come to the conclusion that it's a bit of both. Government are useless but as a population we don't help ourselves, either.

 

Having said that, I'm not sure how much more unruly Brits are vs. other nations. 

 

I generally have little faith in human beings, British or otherwise.

I don’t see that the Government has been ‘useless’ through this pandemic. They’ve made errors for sure eg test and trace and the Nursing Home catastrophe but they’ve also seen some success too, eg vaccination programme.

I honestly don’t think another administration here in the UK would have performed any better.

Your last sentence I agree with 100%. I genuinely DO think the UK must be massively hard to govern. We’ve got people bleating on about their human rights left right and centre, a younger generation who pretty much think they are infallible when it comes to Covid and a very sporadic take up of the vaccine across different communities.

I think the infection rate and the death rate here in the UK has been down to both issues. A government making blunders and a population containing too many people who have acted like nothing has ever been wrong

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5 hours ago, Facecloth said:

@FLAN I'm confused as to why some people potentially missing out on a vaccine when they could potentially being in a vulnerable group is funny?

I only read the first few lines. That’s what I was laughing at. I didn’t read the serious part underneath as I assumed it was just e same story 

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497,257 vaccinations announced today.

 

482,110 first doses.

15,147 second doses.

 

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/vaccinations

 

20,156 people in hospital as of 16th February, was almost double that at 39,242 on 18th January.

 

The figures are going in the right direction everywhere, genuinely can't see why stuff can't be opened up in 6-8 weeks.

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2 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

497,257 vaccinations announced today.

 

482,110 first doses.

15,147 second doses.

 

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/vaccinations

 

20,156 people in hospital as of 16th February, was almost double that at 39,242 on 18th January.

 

The figures are going in the right direction everywhere, genuinely can't see why stuff can't be opened up in 6-8 weeks.

I imagine it will be the case, it seems the govt are wisely not giving the public or media any ammunition should things not go to plan.

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6 hours ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

497,257 vaccinations announced today.

 

482,110 first doses.

15,147 second doses.

 

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/vaccinations

 

20,156 people in hospital as of 16th February, was almost double that at 39,242 on 18th January.

 

The figures are going in the right direction everywhere, genuinely can't see why stuff can't be opened up in 6-8 weeks.

 

6 hours ago, filbertway said:

I imagine it will be the case, it seems the govt are wisely not giving the public or media any ammunition should things not go to plan.

It's difficult to any Govt to manage.

They have to get a strong message out for people to follow the rules.

And they also have to offer hope to keep us going.

But they can't give out too much hope because then people will relax with the rules.

If they set difficult targets and fail to hit them, they get lambasted for failing.

If they set more easily achievable lower targets then they're not being proactive enough.

The UK Govt has been utter shite in a number of ways but it's a nightmare scenario, impossible even, to keep everyone happy.

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4 hours ago, StanSP said:

lol

 

 

 

She's the gift that keeps giving. Nearly as on it as that Toby Young character. Must be a shoe in for a prime time show on that new Andrew Neil "anti woke" TV channel. 

 

Although tbf to her if she tweeted after 6pm she was probably already 3 sheets to the wind... Hic 

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9276335/In-heartbreaking-pictures-human-face-cancer-epidemic-threatening-100-000-patients.html

 

'MPs say that 50,000 patients are thought to be living with undiagnosed cancer '

 

I know the family of one of these girls, truly heartbreaking what they must be going through. She died 3 weeks after being told she had cancer (they didn't know what cancer at the time), horrible.

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57 minutes ago, UniFox21 said:

Honestly the stupidity of people continues to amaze me. The number of samples I've had where the swab is just the wrong way in the tube is incredible. 

 

36 minutes ago, Brizzle Fox said:

She's the gift that keeps giving. Nearly as on it as that Toby Young character. Must be a shoe in for a prime time show on that new Andrew Neil "anti woke" TV channel. 

 

Although tbf to her if she tweeted after 6pm she was probably already 3 sheets to the wind... Hic 

 

I thought that tweet from HIGNFY was satire.

 

**** me it's real:

 

 

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On 17/02/2021 at 10:27, davieG said:

So my Granddaughter is a lot better today. My son had a bad night and was told this morning he'd tested positive but even he's feeling a little better and distracting himself by working at home - Self isolating now but as he said what's different?

Took a turn for the worst and he's been in bed for the last 3 days. :(

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On 18/02/2021 at 12:13, Innovindil said:

Tbf there's the most simplest bmi calculator on the NHS website and people can weigh themselves. Shouldn't be needing to pay gp's for something anyone can do. Unless of course people are too fat to use at home scales, in which case I'd just go by the assumption your bmi is high and you should contact your gp. Took me all of 20 seconds. 

Loads of bodybuilders will be classed as obese, even at under 10%bf.

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