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3 minutes ago, Costock_Fox said:

Shocked it’s emerged there is a ‘variant of concern’ over here on the same day this.

Regular as clockwork.

 

Loads of kids out at the park this weekend enjoying the weather, will only get worse (in terms of compliance) as the weeks go on.

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23 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

Regular as clockwork.

 

Loads of kids out at the park this weekend enjoying the weather, will only get worse (in terms of compliance) as the weeks go on.

How true,  There were loads of people out enjoying the sunshine last April-May-June as well, when we had good weather.  I don't think that was responsible for the January wave, though.

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19 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

Loads of kids out at the park this weekend enjoying the weather, will only get worse (in terms of compliance) as the weeks go on.

You are right, but it is very unlikely to lead to an increase in CV infections, provided everyone stays outside. For example, there is nothing to suggest the busy beaches during the first lockdown led to an increase in infections. It appears ventilation is key, and schools will be encouraged to keep classrooms well ventilated. I am not suggesting all events outdoors are safe - as the Cheltenham festival last year showed, but crowds were very close together including congregating in bars etc. Part empty football stadiums would seem to me to be safe, provided there was staggered entry/exit and limited numbers in concourse areas.

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7 minutes ago, dsr-burnley said:

How true,  There were loads of people out enjoying the sunshine last April-May-June as well, when we had good weather.  I don't think that was responsible for the January wave, though.

 

1 minute ago, oxford blue said:

You are right, but it is very unlikely to lead to an increase in CV infections, provided everyone stays outside. For example, there is nothing to suggest the busy beaches during the first lockdown led to an increase in infections. It appears ventilation is key, and schools will be encouraged to keep classrooms well ventilated. I am not suggesting all events outdoors are safe - as the Cheltenham festival last year showed, but crowds were very close together including congregating in bars etc. Part empty football stadiums would seem to me to be safe, provided there was staggered entry/exit and limited numbers in concourse areas.

Oh yeah definitely agree with you both.

 

I think it's great personally that people are finally living their lives again, even if it does go against the current 'rules'. As the temperature gets hotter, less people will follow the rules, so we're at sort of an end game now with all of this.

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Brazil variant... "all 6 cases are linked to people flying back to UK from Brazil" - Just baffles me that our border control was so relaxed for so long. 

 

It's almost like they were withholding this news for a positive day - nice weather, plummeting cases etc, just to scare us again.

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10 minutes ago, DennisNedry said:

Brazil variant... "all 6 cases are linked to people flying back to UK from Brazil" - Just baffles me that our border control was so relaxed for so long. 

 

It's almost like they were withholding this news for a positive day - nice weather, plummeting cases etc, just to scare us again.

I thought flights were banned from Brazil?

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3 hours ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

Regular as clockwork.

 

Loads of kids out at the park this weekend enjoying the weather, will only get worse (in terms of compliance) as the weeks go on.

 

2 hours ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

 

Oh yeah definitely agree with you both.

 

I think it's great personally that people are finally living their lives again, even if it does go against the current 'rules'. As the temperature gets hotter, less people will follow the rules, so we're at sort of an end game now with all of this.

Going to the park is well within the rules though.

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1 minute ago, Otis said:

 

Going to the park is well within the rules though.

Yeah, but these were families and groups of kids together, looked like 4 or 5 different lots, may well but within their own households but I doubt it.

 

But hey, goodluck to them, I'm not gonna slag them off or dob them in :D

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2 hours ago, DennisNedry said:

Brazil variant... "all 6 cases are linked to people flying back to UK from Brazil" - Just baffles me that our border control was so relaxed for so long. 

 

It's almost like they were withholding this news for a positive day - nice weather, plummeting cases etc, just to scare us again.

They have linked it back to a plane which flew into Heathrow five days before the change in the quarantine rules :rolleyes:

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8 hours ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

A full lockdown would never work, too many people are considered key workers for it to work.

 

A lockdown now isn't gonna see compliance either, people have had enough after 12 months of this.

That has been a prime driver in the cause of this, too many people think they key workers when they not.  

 

do you prefer been in a lockdown but ignoring it, or been out of a lockdown?

 

If compliance proves extremely hard to achieve then force is needed, vaccine passports, travel/holiday bans, cancelling of passports for those in lockdown areas etc.  Otherwise this time next year we will be having the same conversation.  The virus wont just magically go poof, it requires actions on a community level.

 

Only a matter of time that Leicester residents start been banned from visiting hotels etc.  

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Surge testing as a tool for managing new variants is a bigger farce than the nightingales as a tool for managing hospital overflow. By the time you've detected a new more easily spread variant in general testing, it's already out there spreading. You might get a decent measure of how much of it is around in an outbreak area with surge testing, but you're never going to be in a position to halt its spread. 

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9 hours ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

They have linked it back to a plane which flew into Heathrow five days before the change in the quarantine rules :rolleyes:

And the person didn’t leave their full detail as on the contact card ??

 

im struggling here ..... you ask people to take a test, fill out a card and then you don’t check the card against their passport ?? 
 

who is responsible for this sh1tshow ????

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11 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

And the person didn’t leave their full detail as on the contact card ??

 

im struggling here ..... you ask people to take a test, fill out a card and then you don’t check the card against their passport ?? 
 

who is responsible for this sh1tshow ????

Yep, was concerned all along that if the govt don’t tighten up the trace and trace systems then the vaccination effort could be let down badly 

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11 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

And the person didn’t leave their full detail as on the contact card ??

 

im struggling here ..... you ask people to take a test, fill out a card and then you don’t check the card against their passport ?? 
 

who is responsible for this sh1tshow ????

Apparently one of these 6 people filled it out wrong. Who knows what goes on at our airports! 

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13 hours ago, Corky said:

Just do surge testing in those areas. We haven't heard much about the South African variant recently.

There's still a hell of a lot of observation and monitoring work going on behind the scenes involving all these variants. But it not reaching the news as much is positive.

 

 

1 hour ago, Col city fan said:

I do hope the public don’t go and fook this up again. Loads of big groups etc and the government may be forced to change their minds

Some people in this country are plain fookin stupid 

I'm really hoping that once we're given that bit of freedom and ability to move around people don't take the complete piss.

I'm not hopeful though. 

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1 hour ago, st albans fox said:

And the person didn’t leave their full detail as on the contact card ??

 

im struggling here ..... you ask people to take a test, fill out a card and then you don’t check the card against their passport ?? 
 

who is responsible for this [deleted] ????

In the case of a postal test, there is no-one there to check the paperwork is correct.

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1 minute ago, dsr-burnley said:

In the case of a postal test, there is no-one there to check the paperwork is correct.

These people came from brazil?

 

I thought the test had to be done at the airport on arrival ??

 

 

 

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