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1 hour ago, bovril said:

We've had the most deaths, one of the worst economic hits, and possibly the worst lockdown after Ireland. 


Im not sure about the deaths as I think they might be recorded differently in different countries ... and we’ve all had economic hits and lockdowns to contend with  ... and I’m not really sure what that’s got to do with the EU anyway. 
 

1 hour ago, bovril said:

 

Oh and a week of violence in N. Ireland.

 

So glad we're out of the 'Reich'. 

 

Yep you’re right ..  there is always going to be problems in NI ..  personally I’d hand it over to Eire and let them sort it out.  The violence will probably ramp up but eventually the situation might get better. 

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10 minutes ago, Countryfox said:


Im not sure about the deaths as I think they might be recorded differently in different countries ... and we’ve all had economic hits and lockdowns to contend with  ... and I’m not really sure what that’s got to do with the EU anyway. 
 

 

Yep you’re right ..  there is always going to be problems in NI ..  personally I’d hand it over to Eire and let them sort it out.  The violence will probably ramp up but eventually the situation might get better. 

Hand what back? NI? So effectively relocating thousands of UK citizens to another country? 

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8 minutes ago, Countryfox said:

Yep you’re right ..  there is always going to be problems in NI ..  personally I’d hand it over to Eire and let them sort it out.  The violence will probably ramp up but eventually the situation might get better. 

You've solved the UK / EU border problem.

 

Get on zoom to London, Brussels and Dublin asap.

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Irish unification is still the minority opinion in NI.

 

The situation isn't like Scotland where Westminster has to approve it.

 

From what I've always understood. It's written into the Good Friday Agreement that if Irish unification ever becomes the popular opinion in NI and looks like it would win a referendum, then the power for a referendum is in the hands of the NI government.

 

And there's no way even Boris would try to reneg the Good Friday Agreement. No British or Irish PM in their right mind ever would.

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6 hours ago, adejo92 said:

I am probably alone in this thought but i feel as though the only thing keeping Covid alive now is the media and their continued scaremongering. I always had the news app on my mobile and would always be greeted with the latest death tolls or the latest impending restrictions etc etc.

 

I deleted the app around 2 months ago and other than the restrictions that are in place, i wouldn't realize Covid was still around. I don't live my life in worry and feel much happier.

 

The Media thrive on scaring the public.

I tend to agree. Covid is all but finished in this country. 

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2 minutes ago, KrefelderFox666 said:

Good to see that more than 100% of the 75-79 year olds have been vaccinated...

 

Surely that should just say 100% (or about 100%).

To do with the census I think mate, was only done a few weeks ago, so on paper we've probably only got 6 million (random number) 70-75s but in reality there's 6.8 million or something.

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48 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

Because if we were still in Europe we’d be dictated to by a load of bureaucrats in Brussels and would probably be in the same position now as La Francais.

our death rate has been fookin awful but our vaccine roll out is pretty much why we are now seeing some light 

 

As I am sure you know healthcare is not an EU competency and therefore each country are responsible for their own Covid response. Hence there are big differences in their outcomes.  Not sure how anyone in any seriousness can forgive the deaths this government has been responsible for on the back of the vaccine delivered by an organisation the Tories would destroy if given the opportunity.

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4 hours ago, Super_horns said:

Tbh I suspect most people would rather take the 0.095% risk of getting blood clots to the much higher risk of getting seriously ill with COVID long term or worse.

I realise you said " most" ...Bit this One normal guy , is sitting between the cracks..

Or "No place to go"  when you suffer from Chronic circulatory disorders/ Chronic wounds....

After a very Active Adventure trekking,Exploring life, its still difficult to accept/understand

 

Just to give another perspective...!

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36 minutes ago, Robo61 said:

As I am sure you know healthcare is not an EU competency and therefore each country are responsible for their own Covid response. Hence there are big differences in their outcomes.  Not sure how anyone in any seriousness can forgive the deaths this government has been responsible for on the back of the vaccine delivered by an organisation the Tories would destroy if given the opportunity.


Again, easy loose connections being be made as you mention.

Hungary is the highest vaccinated nation in the EU. Why? Because they chose to negotiate with Russia and China for supply of their vaccines. In combination with silly rules, their death rate remains high. Unsurprisingly their leader is also a narcissist. 

 

This is the second nation highlighted on this thread who’ve reported continuing death trends despite vaccination levels being high when comparable to others. It’s a very big lesson in taking time in releasing the restrictions. Both have a similarity using the China vaccine

 

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45 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

To do with the census I think mate, was only done a few weeks ago, so on paper we've probably only got 6 million (random number) 70-75s but in reality there's 6.8 million or something.

Would make sense. Funnily enough the random number I came up with was 6 million too!

 

It does make the figures look a bit skewed. For example the 80+ band may actually only be 88% in real numbers.

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42 minutes ago, Robo61 said:

As I am sure you know healthcare is not an EU competency and therefore each country are responsible for their own Covid response. Hence there are big differences in their outcomes.  Not sure how anyone in any seriousness can forgive the deaths this government has been responsible for on the back of the vaccine delivered by an organisation the Tories would destroy if given the opportunity.

Oh I completely agree. The NHS and other agencies delivering the vaccines have been the real heroes. Then again, so have the people who have been able to obtain them so quickly

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3 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

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Brexit has enabled us to fast track access to the vaccines and I completely agree about the frontline workers giving the vaccines being the real heroes?

You could be part of the EU and still source your own vaccine supply. Hungary have done so - 27% of population vaccinated yet highest death rate in Europe 

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12 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

You could be part of the EU and still source your own vaccine supply. Hungary have done so - 27% of population vaccinated yet highest death rate in Europe 

Ah I see, my bad. Didn’t know that

What has been the problem with the vaccine roll out across most of Europe then? I thought it was bound up in bureacratic nonsense?

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3 hours ago, FoxesDeb said:

Hand what back? NI? So effectively relocating thousands of UK citizens to another country? 


Yes indeed Deb.  Those that want to relocate that is, which would probably be a lot less than you think.  I would build loads of new houses in Scotland (we are getting really good at house building now) ..  where there is lots of space and they would soon fit in with their fellow Celts.  So ...   the Irish problem would not exist and as Marmite has sad the border problem would no longer exist ! ...  (I’ve tried to zoom Boris but he didn’t take my call) ...  ok there would be a few more riots but soon that would settle down and then the only riots would be about other things and if they get really bored they could pull a few statues down.  The IRA would probably kill a few more people but then after a while realise they’ve got what they want and all go home.  Win win.   :thumbup:

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I'm actually quite curious about what immigration will be like the other way in the coming years of Brits emigrating to Ireland.

 

Given Ireland has free movement still with Britain. I'd be interesting to see how many British with EU family or partners who are struggling to move abroad after Brexit end up moving to Ireland for 5 years to get an Irish and EU passport.

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