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Just now, surrifox said:

It’s quite touching that people actually cleave to the idea that football has a series of bodies ensuring propriety and governance ( FA, EUFA, CAS, FFP etc)

 

the whole structure is corrupt and run by self interest and brown envelopes as is demonstrated over and again

 

That said, Man City’s players are superior to those in the sides who would displace them and probably deserve to play on the international scene . 

Why would UEFA bother banning them in the first place? 

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I’m really starting to dislike football, it’s  changed beyond recognition since I first started watching. I know you have to move with the times but this is not for the better at all. It’s corrupt as **** and only the ‘big boys’ can do as they wish and get away with it. 

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3 minutes ago, Beechey said:

This basically just makes yesterday's result meaningless.

Manchester United are winning every remaining game they have, the top 4 will be Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United and Chelsea.

 

So boring.

Quite the opposite. It makes last nights result all the more meaningful. 5th would have seen us in Champions League, something we could have clung onto.

 

Now, it's just Europa League.

 

Gonna be a hard summer. 

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Truth is we just aint good enough for Champions League anyway, it wouldn't have been like last time where we got a good seeding from winning the league it would have been an embarrassment. We are a Europa League team I think right now and that's probably where we will end up

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7 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

FFP is a joke anyway, it's there just to protect the big clubs.

 

7th is a Europa League spot isn't it? I can't see Spurs winning all three games, hopefully we'll get a draw against them and that'll be enough.

 

I don't even want Europe, rather we didn't have it next season if we can't go, just worried a couple of players will want to go if we don't get any form of European football.

 

I think 7th is only a Europa League place IF Arsenal don't win the FA Cup and IF Wolves don't win the Europa League (assuming neither finish top 4).

 

As it stands, Europa League:

- 5th place (automatic)

- 6th place (in lieu of Carabao/League Cup, as Man City will now be in CL)

- FA Cup winners.....but would go to 7th place if winners finish in top 6 (certain for Man City, almost certain for Man Utd & Chelsea, not at all certain for Arsenal)

 

....but, if Wolves win Europa League, then we have 5 teams in CL (inc. Wolves) & only 2 in Europa League (so conceivably even 6th might not be enough IF Arsenal win FA Cup & Wolves win EL?)

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, you experts! :D

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Just now, Super_horns said:

Means it can be a free for all regarding spending?

 

FFP is a waste of time then. 

Nah only applies to the smaller clubs or those not owned by the state of Qatar, who dare spend more to try and compete.

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There are two separate issues here.

 

Man City should have rightly brought to 'justice' over FFP and the whole issue stinks. 

 

However, we don't deserve to be in the CL if we are not in the top 4, which seems unlikely now. Blowing it big time on the field is what is disgusting from our point of view really. 

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Aim for 5th places now- I wasn’t expecting CAS to do us any favours and to be frank we don’t deserve it on current form. This team lacks steel, in the summer we need to buy players with strong mentality- you need players stand up when the going get tough. Maybe this experience may have a positive effect, use this pain in a positive way for the rest of the season. We mustn’t feel sorry for ourselves 

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6 minutes ago, wardyfox86 said:

Quite the opposite. It makes last nights result all the more meaningful. 5th would have seen us in Champions League, something we could have clung onto.

 

Now, it's just Europa League.

 

Gonna be a hard summer. 

Yesterday we had the hope of clinging onto CL, bit with this ruling we would have lost that even if we had won yesterday

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On 10/07/2020 at 15:41, Matt said:

If we can't qualify by making top 4 then we only have ourselves to blame anyway given where we were and the gap we had.

 

We're quick to call other clubs bottlers, have a laugh and giggle but if we don't make top 4 we've bottled it and not been good enough simple.

 

Money talks and Man City were always going to have it overturned but let's not beat around the bush our form since Christmas has been nothing short of undeserving European football anyway but if it softens the blow or people wanna bury their heads in the sand and look for something to blame other than ourselves for not getting that then knock yourselves out.

 

It's in our hands however, the objective should have been to finish atleast 4th anyway, take the thought of a 'comfort blanket' of 5th out the equation, but hopefully confirmation of taking 5th of the table focuses some minds.

 

Regardless of this being true or not these opinions remain the same, anything other than a top 4 place is a failure (Even if 5th place qualifies for CL) on our part is how I assess this season given where we were and the gap we had, certainly given our form and performances since Christmas.

 


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I stand by my original post even more so after last night.

 

It’s for the best we don’t make European football anyway. We’d be humiliated.

 

The real down side to all this is that twat Pep who everyone wants to emulate his shity style of boring football will be hanging around for abit longer.

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6 minutes ago, Super_horns said:

Basically they have been given the green light to spend money at their will ?

 

FFP is a waste of time then. 

only applies to clubs like ours. It keeps us in our place. 

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7 minutes ago, theessexfox said:

Why would UEFA bother banning them in the first place? 

I’m guessing that the boys with spreadsheets do the analysis and make recommendations where guidelines are breached - once the evidence is presented to the decision makers and interpretations are placed on intent to commit offences or deception . All the rules appear to be honoured more in the breach than the observance . Chelsea were the subject of a transfer ban but spent a fortune pre signing players in the last few weeks 

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