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3 hours ago, Foxxed said:

I understand the worry and I can’t say I don’t share one or two. But to put things in to perspective, we’ve achieved our second greatest finish of the modern era, achieved European football and only six months ago posters were honestly claiming to enjoy both the team and the results more than in our premier league win. Things can change quickly. Turning against him before a ball has been kicked this season doesn’t seem productive for the team, the players or the club.

To be fair to myself I wasn't one of those claiming the team was better than the one that won the title.  Although I do remember making posts saying he was been good as a manager, and I still stand by those posts, there was a clear change to how he managed the team between the first and second part of the season, he wasn't the same manager at the end.

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On 29/08/2020 at 16:40, Lambert09 said:

I do think Brendan is a really good manager. But I just can’t warm to him as a person at all. His utter arrogance drives me crazy, which coincidentally is his downfall as a manager.

 

If he was a bit more humble and accepted his mistakes and tried to improve on them, he would genuinely be one of the best in the game. 

 

I really see so many similarities with Puel. 

My exact feelings on him.

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11 hours ago, Koke said:

Rodgers produced some truly embarrassing results in Eurooe. His European record is awful. I genuinely believe if we made it to CL we would get humiliated 6-0 and 7-0 by PSG/Bayern/Liverpool like Celtic did (notwithstanding the quality of players we have compared to Celtic). If we get a semi difficult Europa League group I wouldn't be surprised if we took a massive L and finished 3rd. 

 

Rodgers is a decent manager but he is overrated and definitely overpaid.

Can completely see us tanking against someone like Basel and then getting walloped by someone like Villarreal.

 

I cannot take us drawing Celtic. If there's a god we don't draw Celtic.

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On 29/08/2020 at 16:40, Lambert09 said:

I do think Brendan is a really good manager. But I just can’t warm to him as a person at all. His utter arrogance drives me crazy, which coincidentally is his downfall as a manager.

 

If he was a bit more humble and accepted his mistakes and tried to improve on them, he would genuinely be one of the best in the game. 

 

I really see so many similarities with Puel. 

This + I just don’t trust him.

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His European record would be hilarious if he wasn't our manager. 

 

 

Some of the horrific results he managed to achieve with Liverpool are not to be underestimated. 

 

He shits his pants against the bigger clubs and underestimates the small clubs (see last 6 months here) 

 

 

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On 29/08/2020 at 16:40, Lambert09 said:

I do think Brendan is a really good manager. But I just can’t warm to him as a person at all. His utter arrogance drives me crazy, which coincidentally is his downfall as a manager.

 

If he was a bit more humble and accepted his mistakes and tried to improve on them, he would genuinely be one of the best in the game. 

 

I really see so many similarities with Puel. 

Sadly there aren't that many managers who openly admit their mistakes that often, to do so seems to mean they have less mental strength and belief in their methods. However, the ones that do seem to be the managers who fans can really understand. 

 

 

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10 hours ago, RonnieTodger said:

It’s easy to try and draw parallels on stubbornness, but I’d actually argue that largely, he’s been too negative against the better teams. 
 

The final game against United was fair enough, given the state of the team that we put out but we rolled over for them at Old Trafford. The Spurs away defeat was naive, but he had little other choice. 
 

Liverpool at home we got trounced, but in the away games at Anfield and the Etihad we sat extremely deep. 

 

Think of the Arsenal game though as well, where we were getting tonked and overrun initially - largely down to the suicidal way we had set up. Then when they were reduced to 10 and had momentum building - for me Rodgers was too slow to supplement that from the bench, leaving us with a creditable draw but one where I felt witha bolder strategy a win would have been very achievable. 

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On 29/08/2020 at 16:40, Lambert09 said:

I do think Brendan is a really good manager. But I just can’t warm to him as a person at all. His utter arrogance drives me crazy, which coincidentally is his downfall as a manager.

 

If he was a bit more humble and accepted his mistakes and tried to improve on them, he would genuinely be one of the best in the game. 

 

I really see so many similarities with Puel. 

Think that sums it up for me as well. When you're Sir Alex Ferguson you can afford to be arrogant but, when you're Brendan Rodgers and comparatively, have never won anything to be arrogant about, perhaps a bit of humble pie and self examination might not go amiss on occasions. 

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On 04/09/2020 at 08:49, UHDrive said:

I'm surprised he's getting so many negative comments.

 

BR doesn't have to love the club like most prem managers but when you see him on the touchline when we score a goal then that's all we as city fans need to know in terms of his winning mentality.

 

As for his arrogance I'd take that as him being driven to get the best out of his team and frankly I'd take that as a good sign. We've seen many managers over the years who have just sat on their pay cheques and left their teams to be run solely by their assistant managers and coaches. When I look at BR and his pedigree with big teams and the experience that brings then I can't help but be disappointed by comment's on here like there has been.

He hasn’t got a pedigree with big teams. He got sacked by big team Liverpool and my Labrador could have won the league with big team Celtic such was his competition 🤣

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20 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said:

He hasn’t got a pedigree with big teams. He got sacked by big team Liverpool and my Labrador could have won the league with big team Celtic such was his competition 🤣

You can dress it up in various ways.

 

At Liverpool he inherited nothing more than a mid-table squad with one quality player and dragged them into a title race they probably would've won if not for rotten luck. It went to shite when he fell out with the board over signings.

 

At Celtic he made them invincible domestically in his first season, drastically improved the professionalism of the operation, delivered 7 trophies out of 7, and got them into the CL more often than Deila managed at least. Celtic fans admit it has gone to shit without him and they are basically back to being a pub team with Lennon now, barring a few decent players.

 

His CV looks good here on paper too. We were mid-table under Puel, we finished 5th in his first full season despite selling an £80m defender. Two cup runs in there too.

 

The next three months are make or break for his managerial career, IMO. If he f**** it up and we have to sack him, his next job is no better than us, and he's probably missed the boat on ever returning to a top six job. 

 

I've got no doubts we will be fine, though, and will have a good season. He can't afford otherwise from a career perspective.

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Just now, jeffschlupp said:

You can dress it up in various ways.

 

At Liverpool he inherited nothing more than a mid-table squad with one quality player and dragged them into a title race they probably would've won if not for rotten luck. It went to shite when he fell out with the board over signings.

 

At Celtic he made them invincible domestically in his first season, drastically improved the professionalism of the operation, delivered 7 trophies out of 7, and got them into the CL more often than Deila managed at least. Celtic fans admit it has gone to shit without him and they are basically back to being a pub team with Lennon now, barring a few decent players.

 

His CV looks good here on paper too. We were mid-table under Puel, we finished 5th in his first full season despite selling an £80m defender. Two cup runs in there too.

 

The next three months are make or break for his managerial career, IMO. If he f**** it up and we have to sack him, his next job is no better than us, and he's probably missed the boat on ever returning to a top six job. 

 

I've got no doubts we will be fine, though, and will have a good season. He can't afford otherwise from a career perspective.

yeah, suarez, sterling, prime sturridge, gerrard , coutinho. i'm surprised he didn't finish 13th with his awful liverpool team. lol 

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My biggest worry is that he can't stop the bad form we had from january onwards and end up starting the new season in the same manner.

Especially with only one new signing. He said in an interview a while back we needed to freshen things up and that hasn't really happened as of yet.

Start the season poorly and it could be hard to turn around. 

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19 minutes ago, don_danbury said:

yeah, suarez, sterling, prime sturridge, gerrard , coutinho. i'm surprised he didn't finish 13th with his awful liverpool team. lol 

He signed Coutinho and Sturridge. Replaced guys like Maxi Rodriguez, Aurellio and Bellamy who were past their best. 

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20 minutes ago, don_danbury said:

yeah, suarez, sterling, prime sturridge, gerrard , coutinho. i'm surprised he didn't finish 13th with his awful liverpool team. lol 

Gerrard was 32 and coming off the back of his worst season for injuries in his career. He got him fit again and added three years onto his career by moving him deeper into the midfield into the Pirlo role.

 

Coutinho and Sturridge were signed under his tenure, Sterling was a 17 year old with three senior appearances when he took the job.

 

It was nothing more than a mid-table squad under Hodgson and then Dalglish and that shows because they finished 8th when Dalglish was eventually sacked.

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5 hours ago, worth_the_wait said:

Well that's our Brendan neatly summarised!

It's hard to argue against results.   He really needs to find those missing quality players,  and have a good start to the league.

What we've seen so far is more of the same.

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35 minutes ago, jeffschlupp said:

Gerrard was 32 and coming off the back of his worst season for injuries in his career. He got him fit again and added three years onto his career by moving him deeper into the midfield into the Pirlo role.

 

Coutinho and Sturridge were signed under his tenure, Sterling was a 17 year old with three senior appearances when he took the job.

 

It was nothing more than a mid-table squad under Hodgson and then Dalglish and that shows because they finished 8th when Dalglish was eventually sacked.

fair enough. i don't agree he inherited a mid table side with a prime suarez in there lol 

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57 minutes ago, don_danbury said:

fair enough. i don't agree he inherited a mid table side with a prime suarez in there lol 

Doubt Suarez would do very well playing against 11 men on his own.

Those first two years when I saw Rodgers put that team together from what he had managed to scrape together are some of my fondest memories of football. Building a posession football team from scratch. Piece by piece from players most on here would consider trash. All with a part to play in a team that hit its height two points short of the Title. The club lost 55 goals the following year with Suarez going to Barca and Sturridge injured most of the year with no replacement.

But go on now continue with your vast knowledge of Liverpool and Celtic who I followed everyday Rodgers was at the club. Just like here. Obviously we both watch football for entirely different reasons.

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To Rodgers credit, that Liverpool team in 2013/14 was probably one of the most enjoyable teams I've watched in the PL thst didn't include my beloved Leicester. Cannot stand Liverpool but the football and them appearing from the chasing pack and going on an unreal run in the final third of the season was scintillating. 

 

Had he won the PL with them I think his managerial career would have taken a different path. He does need to win a major trophy in England to be considered one of the best coaches in the PL and this is his biggest weakness. He seems to have the uncanny knack of his teams ballsing it up when the pressure is really on.

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