Ayoze Perez

[Simoken 737]

On 22/10/2020 at 18:00, ronnup said:

Give him a go upfront. 

He should of gone up front instead of bringing on Slim ffs.

[Unique FC 175]

Perez works hard and we can not fault his effort. His technical qualities are just not suited to a winger. We bought him as a support striker to Rondon. He was very effective in that role. 

For us, he is very limited as he is shoved out wide without any attributes. He has no speed, no real dribbling skills, crossing can't recall a good cross he has done. Under will be starting shortly, Perez, to get the best we need to play him in a 2 through the middle.. 

 

Decent player, but completely the wrong signing for us. 

[dobbylcfc 91]

Personally i’d try and get rid in Jan and bring in a understudy to vards.

[Finnegan 26,891]

On 21/10/2020 at 18:13, KingsX said:

The greatest strength of our club is finding the right players and making them better.  What I like least about Ayoze is nothing about him personally -- he puts in the work pressing, despite his lack of physicality.  It’s that we had no proper use for him, but bought him anyway, and we’ve made him worse.

 

We took a streaky, yet productive player, shoved him out wide, and now the good streaks are few and far between.  He was playing better a year ago than today.

 

Outside of the Pearson / Walsh era, or more specifically just Mahrez and Vardy, have we ever done this with a forward player though? 

 

We have a fantastic track record signing defensive and midfield players, we spot some absolute gems, often from relative obscurity. 

 

At the other end of the pitch we seem to lack imagination. To be the club that spends sensibly on guys like Ricardo, Kante, Castagne, Soyuncu, Ndidi, etc but then blows 30m buying a bang average forward from the same division to, fill our desperate, priority need got a winger. Its just odd. 

[teblin 454]

4 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

Outside of the Pearson / Walsh era, or more specifically just Mahrez and Vardy, have we ever done this with a forward player though? 

 

We have a fantastic track record signing defensive and midfield players, we spot some absolute gems, often from relative obscurity. 

 

At the other end of the pitch we seem to lack imagination. To be the club that spends sensibly on guys like Ricardo, Kante, Castagne, Soyuncu, Ndidi, etc but then blows 30m buying a bang average forward from the same division to, fill our desperate, priority need got a winger. Its just odd. 

Vardy is the issue in all of that. People don’t get a run in the team/

 

a good issue is Vardy!

Edited 25 October 2020 by teblin

[Finnegan 26,891]

Just now, teblin said:

Vardy is the issue in all of that. People don’t get a run in the team/

 

By forward I mean as a generic term for attacking players across the whole "front three."

 

A clutch term for strikers, wide forwards, wingers, etc. 

 

The problem with our recruitment is that it would be fantastic (and it is fantastic to an extent, don't get me wrong) if we were Stoke or Burnley. But one of the reasons we come up looking so short in games recently is that we want to play attractive attacking football but we don't see to be good at finding and signing attractive attacking players. 

[baldeagle 1,686]

At least he’s trying to do something about the being knocked of the ball problem 

[Finnegan 26,891]

8 minutes ago, baldeagle said:

At least he’s trying to do something about the being knocked of the ball problem 

 

He can do all the weights he wants, it's partly balance, its partly mentality. 

 

Much smaller guys than Perez stay on the ball more. 

[Ric Flair 21,841]

On 24/10/2020 at 16:52, sdb said:

12 goals/assists in 33 games from midfield is decent no? Aside from a world class Mahrez, who was the last player in that position to do the same? 

Barnes got 6 goals and 8 assists

[baldeagle 1,686]

12 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

He can do all the weights he wants, it's partly balance, its partly mentality. 

 

Much smaller guys than Perez stay on the ball more. 

Also some people have natural upper body strength. I’ve been massively in to weight training for about 29 years and have  seen skinny looking blokes lift twice the amount of blokes twice their size . 

Edited 31 October 2020 by baldeagle

[Sunbury Fox 1,601]

Totally unconvinced by him. If he wants to get back in the team he needs to do a lot better. Want to see Ünder starting on the right asap.

[weller54 9,344]

29 minutes ago, Finnegan said:

 

He can do all the weights he wants, it's partly balance, its partly mentality. 

 

Much smaller guys than Perez stay on the ball more. 

Mendy

[Bryn 2,210]

Looking like one of the relative losers in our current run of form. Still not clear where he excels. Wouldn't be altogether surprised if we looked to move him on next summer. Don't think he will go earlier unless someone pays a lot in January given our need for  a big squad.

[HoustonFox 2,090]

Actually think he is better on the left than right but no way will he oust Barnes.  Good rotation player, and if he’s happy to be that, then good.  Nice and versatile to bring off the bench, but behind Under and Praet for for the right side now too.

 

Can he also stop making those crappy slo-mo vids? 

[Blue ROI 1,882]

His appearances last season were a bit like David Nugent the first season back. A threat but you were always wanting more.

 

He's gonna find it hard to get back in now with Under's solid start.

 

Games like tomorrow are a chance to get back into the mix.At least he'll have a point to prove. Good for the squad depth.

 

Edited 4 November 2020 by Blue ROI

[Detroit Blues 898]

I think Perez would pair very well in a front 2 with Iheanacho. We just can't continue to play him out of position on the wing, and expect him to become a Harvey Barnes / Cengis Under.

[coolhandfox 3,116]

For me I'd play him down the middle tomorrow to give Vardy a rest.

[eblair 397]

23 hours ago, Blue ROI said:

His appearances last season were a bit like David Nugent the first season back. A threat but you were always wanting more.

 

He's gonna find it hard to get back in now with Under's solid start.

 

Games like tomorrow are a chance to get back into the mix.At least he'll have a point to prove. Good for the squad depth.

 

think that is really good comparison, some of his goals on half volley very nugent-esque

 

clearly a good player who works hard, but just need a bit more

 

think 30m price tag not helping people's expectations of him

[weller54 9,344]

23 hours ago, coolhandfox said:

For me I'd play him down the middle tomorrow to give Vardy a rest.

You don't want us to win then?

[Suzie the Fox 5,308]

On 31/10/2020 at 21:46, baldeagle said:

At least he’s trying to do something about the being knocked of the ball problem 

 

Oh my...

[Ric Flair 21,841]

On 04/11/2020 at 14:50, coolhandfox said:

For me I'd play him down the middle tomorrow to give Vardy a rest.

Iheanacho needs game time as well though, unless you play Perez behind Kelechi which is an option.

[filbertway 2,910]

On 31/10/2020 at 21:46, baldeagle said:

At least he’s trying to do something about the being knocked of the ball problem 

[filbertway 2,910]

Just now, Ric Flair said:

Iheanacho needs game time as well though, unless you play Perez behind Kelechi which is an option.

I feel for Iheanacho, cus he could play tonight, score a couple, set a couple up. Then Rodgers will throw him back into the wilderness. Must be hard to maintain motivation when you have so few chances.

[coolhandfox 3,116]

18 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Iheanacho needs game time as well though, unless you play Perez behind Kelechi which is an option.

I'd probably play them both like we did at West Ham away last year. 

 

We need get the firing, only way to do that is game time. 

 

22 minutes ago, weller54 said:

You don't want us to win then?

Yes of course, but we have another 40 odd games this year that I'd like to us to have a chance of winning. 

 

Over playing Vardy isn't going to help. 

 

With careful management we get the most out of Vardy.

Edited 5 November 2020 by coolhandfox

[Guest Hansifüx]

rotation is important, start Perez and Iheanacho today (they are more then good enough to play) and bring in later depending on score  any combination of Vardy/Barnes/Under ...