StanSP 30,497 Posted 4 March Report Share Posted 4 March Just now, kyleolly said: Thought it was very similar to the one given against n’didi on Saturday Nah Ndidi was much further away. Not that that should make a difference. Kante's 'natural silhouette' is not having his hands up near his head. I can't work out how Liverpool don't have a penalty from that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Col city fan 11,655 Posted 4 March Report Share Posted 4 March This handball rule is fookin ridiculous How can it be deemed handball when some bloke fires the ball at another’s hand from 3 yards away? It’s crackers Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Unabomber 12,178 Posted 4 March Report Share Posted 4 March Liverpool getting battered here Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peach0000 2,246 Posted 4 March Report Share Posted 4 March Just now, kyleolly said: Thought it was very similar to the one given against n’didi on Saturday The Ndidi one was much clearer. I mean Ndidis hands were in a ridiculous position for his. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dan LCFC 12,074 Posted 4 March Report Share Posted 4 March 1 minute ago, StanSP said: Clear up the handball rule Handball by default is a very tough one in general to be fair. Always thought it's about the hardest. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
turtmcfly 1,944 Posted 4 March Report Share Posted 4 March (edited) 36 minutes ago, Col city fan said: Final sentence makes no sense mate. By the way, I’m trying to discuss this with you here so no need for the sarcasm. Are you saying then that VAR hasn’t impacted on numbers of goals scored, but disallowed? Aren’t the figures clear? It makes perfect sense, but I'll break it down. Those 'figures are clear' but they only include VAR decisions where a goal has been allowed in normal play. What they don't include is; the 27 times a goal was disallowed in normal play but VAR then allowed it. the 22 times VAR awarded a penalty when one wasn't given in normal play. the 4 times VAR decided a penalty need to be retaken All of these are clearly positives in terms of bets based on goals scored Edited 4 March by turtmcfly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
filbertway 3,190 Posted 4 March Report Share Posted 4 March (edited) 3 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said: For sure, the tech is not the issue though... The A league use VAR superbly. Its rarely intrusive and even less rare does it become centre stage. They dont review decisions OTT like happens here. Checks takes about 10-20 seconds and you rarely find yourself disagreeing I'd rather it not be used than used poorly I suppose. Edited 4 March by filbertway 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kyleolly 962 Posted 4 March Report Share Posted 4 March 1 minute ago, peach0000 said: The Ndidi one was much clearer. I mean Ndidis hands were in a ridiculous position for his. Only because he has much longer arms 😂 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StanSP 30,497 Posted 4 March Report Share Posted 4 March I had a bet on Liverpool to get a penalty through a Kante handball as well. FFS VAR. Ruining my life. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Col city fan 11,655 Posted 4 March Report Share Posted 4 March 1 minute ago, Unabomber said: Liverpool getting battered here Una state the bloody obvious next time mi old son 👍 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
st albans fox 8,818 Posted 4 March Report Share Posted 4 March 7 minutes ago, Raw Dykes said: The lines would still have to come out exactly the same as they do now, but in your proposed idea, it would be whenever someone looks 6 inches offside, instead of 0 inches like now. Changes nothing. It changes everything- at the moment, goals are being disallowed for offside as a fact when players may well be onsde because the freezing of the frame cannot be said to be 100% accurate in conjunction to the moment the ball is played. Having a buffer still leads to the line being drawn but if the striker falls just the wrong side of that line then there is no doubt that they were offside. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mickyblueeyes 2,640 Posted 4 March Report Share Posted 4 March Watched the disallowed goals for Fulham, WBA and Chelsea. I don’t understand the offside rule anymore. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
st albans fox 8,818 Posted 4 March Report Share Posted 4 March 4 minutes ago, StanSP said: Nah Ndidi was much further away. Not that that should make a difference. Kante's 'natural silhouette' is not having his hands up near his head. I can't work out how Liverpool don't have a penalty from that. Not sure klopp won’t refer to it later .... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vacamion 12,496 Posted 4 March Report Share Posted 4 March (edited) So we are saying that Ngolo didn't concede a peno because he has a silhouette like a T Rex whereas Wilf is all arms and legs? Edited 4 March by Vacamion Quote Link to post Share on other sites
STUHILL 2,890 Posted 4 March Report Share Posted 4 March Apparently this is a natural hands position from Kante 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StanSP 30,497 Posted 4 March Report Share Posted 4 March Just now, st albans fox said: Not sure klopp won’t refer to it later .... Probably refer to Hamza bringing down Salah at some point too. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Col city fan 11,655 Posted 4 March Report Share Posted 4 March 4 minutes ago, turtmcfly said: It makes perfect sense, but I'll break it down. Those 'figures are clear' but they only include VAR decisions where a goal has been allowed in normal play. What they don't include is; the 27 times a goal was disallowed in normal play but VAR then allowed it. the 22 times VAR awarded a penalty when one wasn't given in normal play. the 4 times VAR decided a penalty need to be retaken All of these are clearly positives in terms of bets based on goals scored I definitely concur on the penalties. Of course there will be goals stem from them that wouldn’t have before. Good point 👍 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Col city fan 11,655 Posted 4 March Report Share Posted 4 March A clear sign of Liverpool’s demise is where 60 mins have passed and the bookies are now offering 21/20 on btts They really don’t think they’ll score Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Unabomber 12,178 Posted 4 March Report Share Posted 4 March 1 minute ago, Col city fan said: A clear sign of Liverpool’s demise is where 60 mins have passed and the bookies are now offering 21/20 on btts They really don’t think they’ll score Why don’t you back it then they definitely won’t 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Oxlong 8,419 Posted 4 March Report Share Posted 4 March @turtmcfly > @Col city fan 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
st albans fox 8,818 Posted 4 March Report Share Posted 4 March 10 minutes ago, filbertway said: Technology is fine and goal line tech is superb. VAR in England is equivalent of having blind people manually operating traffic lights. How rubbish is it that you cant celebrate a goal these days? The crux ...... the benefit of var does NOT outweigh the loss of fans and players in being able to celebrate the goal in the moment ......we had mistakes before var and we have mistakes with var. so what’s the point of it! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
STUHILL 2,890 Posted 4 March Report Share Posted 4 March Doesn't seem to be an end in sight to Liverpool's woeful run. Just imagine if they start next season in the same way... That could get very interesting for Klopp! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Col city fan 11,655 Posted 4 March Report Share Posted 4 March 1 minute ago, Mike Oxlong said: @turtmcfly > @Col city fan Tbf the bit about the penalties is right. There have been so many more given since VAR Quote Link to post Share on other sites
st albans fox 8,818 Posted 4 March Report Share Posted 4 March Just now, STUHILL said: Doesn't seem to be an end in sight to Liverpool's woeful run. Just imagine if they start next season in the same way... That could get very interesting for Klopp! If he hasn’t gone to manage the national team .... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StanSP 30,497 Posted 4 March Report Share Posted 4 March 1 minute ago, STUHILL said: Doesn't seem to be an end in sight to Liverpool's woeful run. Just imagine if they start next season in the same way... That could get very interesting for Klopp! I'll enjoy it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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