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2 hours ago, The Bear said:

Duncan Castles hasn't got a clue about Wolves. I wouldn't take anything he says as fact. Probably just going off the headline loss in the accounts (which would have been a profit if not for Covid). 

 

If anything we're in a stronger position now that FFP has been binned. 

Chinese spending in the west is not secure - in the U.K. it’s going to be Hong Kong politics dependant .....v uncertain .....

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Ug. It's doubtful but not impossible that Liverpool will win the Champions League.

 

But it's possible that Chelsea win it and finish outside the CL places. And would take up a Champions League place.

 

I really want to beat the Hammers to help secure third.

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5 minutes ago, Foxxed said:

Ug. It's doubtful but not impossible that Liverpool will win the Champions League.

 

But it's possible that Chelsea win it and finish outside the CL places. And would take up a Champions League place.

 

I really want to beat the Hammers to help secure third.

 

It's only a problem if an English club win both European competitions and finish outside the top four isn't it? 

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Just now, Finnegan said:

 

It's only a problem if an English club win both European competitions and finish outside the top four isn't it? 

I thought if an English club win the CL and finish outside the top four then the top three and the CL winner get CL places?

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Just now, Foxxed said:

I thought if an English club win the CL and finish outside the top four then the top three and the CL winner get CL places?

 

I think we're allowed five clubs as long as the fifth qualifies by winning one of the two European cups? 

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Just now, Finnegan said:

 

I think we're allowed five clubs as long as the fifth qualifies by winning one of the two European cups? 

I like your version. But what does the Champions League think?

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2 minutes ago, Foxxed said:

I like your version. But what does the Champions League think?

 

How does winning UCL/UEL affect qualification?

Should a Premier League club win the UEFA Champions League they will automatically qualify for the group stage of next season's competition regardless of their league finishing position.

 

Should a Premier League club win the UEFA Europa League they will automatically qualify for the group stage of next season's UEFA Champions League regardless of their league finishing position.

 

A maximum of five Premier League teams are eligible for UEFA Champions League qualification.

 

In the event that a Premier League club win the UEFA Champions League and another win the UEFA Europa League and neither of these clubs finish in the top four of the Premier League, the club lying fourth in the table will drop into the UEFA Europa League group stage.

 

 

https://www.premierleague.com/european-qualification-explained#:~:text=Should a Premier League club win the UEFA Europa League,for UEFA Champions League qualification.

 

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1 hour ago, Foxxed said:

Ug. It's doubtful but not impossible that Liverpool will win the Champions League.

 

But it's possible that Chelsea win it and finish outside the CL places. And would take up a Champions League place.

 

I really want to beat the Hammers to help secure third.

Doesn't matter unless Arsenal win the EL as well.

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It seems every few pages this comes up, but if an English club wins EITHER European competition and finishes outside top 4, we're fine.  But if they win BOTH, then 4th place isn't CL.  To put it lightly, that would be quite a gut punch both emotionally and financially.  I think people are slowly starting to realize that there isn't "no chance" this is going to happen - as seemed to be the consensus a month or so ago.  I mean, the CL QF draw was pretty much the worst possible one for us.  Even before this week's results I thought there's just as much of a chance of Chelsea winning CL outside top 4 as Liverpool.

 

Do I think Chelsea would beat PSG / Bayern / Man City in a final.  No.  But I certainly wouldn't feel very comfortable if it got to that point with Arsenal also progressing.  I mean, surely Arsenal are favorites to get to the final playing Prague and then winner of Zagreb + Villareal?  To sum it up - if you're not concerned about this, then more power to you.  But I certainly am.

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5 minutes ago, Legend_in_blue said:

We're OK.  Man City most likely and not Chelsea or Liverpool will win CL.  

PSG or Man City are desperate to win it and one of them will.

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27 minutes ago, FoxFossil said:

Has this ever happened before?

Sooooo Leicester. Beginning to crap it.

 

Yes ....

a few years ago 4th place missed out 

 

we can make the query redundant by finishing 2nd or 3rd ...

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1 hour ago, FoxFossil said:

Has this ever happened before?

Sooooo Leicester. Beginning to crap it.

 

No. Spurs finished 4th once and missed out as Chelsea won the UCL. Only four teams from the same country were allowed back then, they would have been ok under the current rules.

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9 hours ago, Yes said:

 

 

Neves is very overrated. Not a bad player by any means but just the Portuguese Jonjo Shelvey as far as I’m concerned. Traore isn’t consistent enough. Neto is a class act mind you. 

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2 hours ago, AjcW said:

This is superb from John Percy lol spot on as ever even when being sarcastic. Calling out media outlets for framing Howe as some sort of messiah. 
 

Putting it in here because Howe would be in consideration for Prem jobs if they became available.

 

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I saw that this morning and couldn't believe it lol

 

Tbf some of the comments of "fraud" etc are harsh though. Yes they spent money in the Championship but who doesn't? Practically every club that goes up, probably besides Blackpool and Huddersfield off the top of my head in recent years, does. Don't forget he kept Bournemouth up for 3 years, including a top 10 finish I think. We're talking about Bournemouth here and not exactly a club like Wolves or Villa.

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23 hours ago, Yes said:

 

 

 

19 hours ago, The Bear said:

Duncan Castles hasn't got a clue about Wolves. I wouldn't take anything he says as fact. Probably just going off the headline loss in the accounts (which would have been a profit if not for Covid). 

 

If anything we're in a stronger position now that FFP has been binned. 

 

I’ve read several things lately explaining this:

 

Not many years after declaring football a national priority, the dictatorship has now declared they really meant “football with Chinese characteristics”.  i.e. building up the grass roots at home, rather than splashing hundreds of millions on high-profile foreign clubs and players.  All these companies that made such investments have been told to reverse course, pronto.  Huge investment in European teams is now seen as an unproductive export of capital.

 

My guess, Fosun turning a profit with a PL club (and Gestifute) will be tolerated.  But vanity projects won’t.

 

They will also tolerate foreign coaches, and a less expensive grade of foreign player, in China until they can develop their own.  Just like I had friends take million-dollar gigs setting up factories there and teaching them how to run the machines.  Factories now run entirely by Chinese.

 

I’m sure the goal is, a generation from now, China will be cleaning up in the World Cup and Olympics.  Harder to imagine the Chinese league ever on par with the big five European leagues -- but if that is also a priority, it will likely happen.

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Huge difference in the CL this year, usually it's PSG, Munich, Madrid/Barca who are 12 points clear at the top of their leagues with 6-8 games left so they can afford to rest players domestically and have them fresh for European ties. This year, Man City have that luxury, 11 points clear with a better GD (if United win their game in hand), 2 wins will probably be enough to see them home.

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Little quiz of the night, since the Premier League was formed which four clubs have been promoted to the premier league, the foxes have never faced in premier league history?

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