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4 hours ago, Fox92 said:

A few teams have two assistant's, so to speak. I'd imagine Shakespeare is more tactics and Terry more defensive.

 

Can't wait for the Villa H game when he comes out with two balls in hand.

A good appointment that for Villa, I think at times we have missed Shakey being part of coaching setup. My guess is there was alot of talk towards the end of the season Terry leaving, I reckon he's knows now there could be a few job opportunities in the championship. 

 

As some have mentioned it's probably vital Smith gets off to good start otherwise could very well see Shakey teaming up with his old pal Nige.

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1 hour ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

Tbf this is the first punishment most clubs receive for such offences. Consistent 

 

Its total bullshit they have been punished- it relates back to their Championship season. FFP in UEFA’s eyes counts for the last three years. So the year Wolves went up they recorded a significant loss

Spot on. We've basically been punished for getting into Europe too soon. Almost like the cartel has patted us on the head and said "let's not get ahead of yourselves eh?" These accounts aren't for this season either, it's for last season and the two seasons in the Championship before that. 

 

Istanbul got a similar fine because they've got into Europe sooner than expected as well. 

 

£600k would be chump change and n any case. We probably made that by getting through to the QFs last night. Breaking even next season shouldn't be too hard given the TV money clubs get. 

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Just now, The Bear said:

Spot on. We've basically been punished for getting into Europe too soon. Almost like the cartel has patted us on the head and said "let's not get ahead of yourselves eh?" 

 

Istanbul got a similar fine because they've got into Europe sooner than expected. 

 

Still £600k would be chump change. We probably made that by getting through to the QFs last night. Breaking even next season shouldn't be too hard given the TV money clubs get. 

Yep they are also a plastic club with pathetic crowds trumped up by the Turkish president who doesn’t like the Turkish traditional big three because their fans have literally led public riots against him

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51 minutes ago, DerbyshireFox said:

He would have been great but not for the £75m quoted. We just can’t afford to do those sorts of deals

Relegation fire sale price is not exactly market value . The time to buy him would have been in 2017 when he went to Bournemouth and we were Sky Sources linked. If the other guy wants to go that far.

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5 hours ago, Fox92 said:

A few teams have two assistant's, so to speak. I'd imagine Shakespeare is more tactics and Terry more defensive.

 

Can't wait for the Villa H game when he comes out with two balls in hand.

 

 

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1 hour ago, pmcla26 said:

I don’t think they wrong to not spend, our first choice centre halves weren’t an issue and at £75m just was never worth it. 
 

£40m is about right in the market but you don’t turn Man City down for Leicester, of course. 

Yeah I never said it was a wrong decision, Just that's when the chance was there for us.

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People argue Bale have won CLs etc. But Ozil has won World Cup and has won multiple (6?) German POTY awards, plus La Liga, FA Cups. Ozil isn't a bum leeching off Arsenal like some want to portray him, and Bale isn't a slave being held against his will either.

 

I dont care for either player. Both are a financial  burden on their clubs and need to be moved on. 

 

 

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With Bale his manager has clearly ostracised him from the squad and also in the media. He was all set to leave for China when Real changed the terms of the deal at the last minute. And he's quite rightly told them to do one and has acted accordingly.

 

I have more sympathy for him than Ozil who could probably get in the Arsenal team if he really wanted to. 

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6 minutes ago, Koke said:

 

 

People argue Bale have won CLs etc. But Ozil has won World Cup and has won multiple (6?) German POTY awards, plus La Liga, FA Cups. Ozil isn't a bum leeching off Arsenal like some want to portray him, and Bale isn't a slave being held against his will either.

 

I dont care for either player. Both are a financial  burden on their clubs and need to be moved on. 

 

 

Neither are bad players. I think there should be a limit to the amount of pay you can get for kicking a football around though. I get maybe footballers should be paid a bit more due to their short playing career, although anyone with an ounce of charisma will get a pundit job for life afterwards. They will also get more due to it be an incredibly successful high demand entertainment industry. 

 

Its obscene especially when large numbers of people are losing their jobs that some are earning millions a month.

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Bale has performed for Madrid and I'd even argue more so than Ronaldo in the big big games. His treatment is a little bizarre considering he's got a pretty decent record and not really done much wrong on the pitch. 

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We're going to win one of the trophies, aren't we?..

Am genuinely sensing next season will be even more successful.

 

Need to learn from the Bournemouth result, as that type of game seemed to be a team weakness at times last season.

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20 hours ago, Foxin_Mad said:

Neither are bad players. I think there should be a limit to the amount of pay you can get for kicking a football around though. I get maybe footballers should be paid a bit more due to their short playing career, although anyone with an ounce of charisma will get a pundit job for life afterwards. They will also get more due to it be an incredibly successful high demand entertainment industry. 

 

Its obscene especially when large numbers of people are losing their jobs that some are earning millions a month.

Exactly. There seems to be a prevailing sympathy for the length of a professional footballers career and their earnings. Like somehow they become unemployable drifters after their career ends. 

 

They earn vast sums of money, even way down the pyramid, that makes your average earners lifetime income look small. 

 

Post football they are very employable. People love a footballer. Punditry, journalism, even the average job are all areas that they have a celebrity advantage in. 

 

Give me a million quid now and I'll be set for life. If they miss-manage their finances during their career it's hard to be massively sympathetic. 

 

If you listen to some folk they're burdened with massive wages. 

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20 hours ago, shailen said:

Bale has performed for Madrid and I'd even argue more so than Ronaldo in the big big games. His treatment is a little bizarre considering he's got a pretty decent record and not really done much wrong on the pitch. 

I agree. It seems politically motivated and Zidane seems to be behaving like a child considering how good Bale still is. If i was on a fixed contract like him with his club blocking him from other moves abroad then Id probably have his attitude too.

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27 minutes ago, Wymsey said:

We're going to win one of the trophies, aren't we?..

Am genuinely sensing next season will be even more successful.

 

Need to learn from the Bournemouth result, as that type of game seemed to be a team weakness at times last season.

We lost to Norwich Bournemouth... drew late with Watford.... and villa put us out of the league cup ...  if we were consistent we would walk these games .  That must be our goal

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On 07/08/2020 at 21:02, Cardiff_Fox said:

Talk in Brum is that Terry will get the Bournemouth job 

As per most things in Brum, talking shit

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21 hours ago, Koke said:

 

 

People argue Bale have won CLs etc. But Ozil has won World Cup and has won multiple (6?) German POTY awards, plus La Liga, FA Cups. Ozil isn't a bum leeching off Arsenal like some want to portray him, and Bale isn't a slave being held against his will either.

 

I dont care for either player. Both are a financial  burden on their clubs and need to be moved on. 

 

 

 

Sorry but this is ****ing shit. 

 

Bale absolutely is being held against his will, he agreed a deal to move to China last year in a deal that would have made him the highest paid player on the planet and Real Madrid torpedoed the deal. 

 

He's been ****ing disgustingly treated from the moment he got there. 

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Have slight sympathy for Newcastle fans after the collapse of the Arab takeover, and still having Ashley running their club.

 

Bruce has done better than I thought he'd do up there.

 

Without Saint-Maximin, reckon they'd have been very close to relegation.

He's made a massive impact up there, and wouldn't be surprised if he'll use them as a 'stepping-stone' to go to another club with higher ambitions.

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2 hours ago, foxile5 said:

Exactly. There seems to be a prevailing sympathy for the length of a professional footballers career and their earnings. Like somehow they become unemployable drifters after their career ends. 

 

They earn vast sums of money, even way down the pyramid, that makes your average earners lifetime income look small. 

 

Post football they are very employable. People love a footballer. Punditry, journalism, even the average job are all areas that they have a celebrity advantage in. 

 

Give me a million quid now and I'll be set for life. If they miss-manage their finances during their career it's hard to be massively sympathetic. 

 

If you listen to some folk they're burdened with massive wages. 

Yes since the turn of the 90s Top PL und Top Championship players,Plus Europe clubs Equivalent have earned 100ks more than Mr Avg on the streets..I

Financially I have little or  no sympathy for most....Our World cup winners 'generation' is a different story..

 

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Ozil is a fascinating case. Seems like he was most recently ostracized by Arteta for not taking a pay cut like the rest of the squad during the pandemic.

 

Apparently he wasn't unwilling though, he just wanted proof of what would be done with the funds saved to keep other staff in jobs. Arsenal wouldn't give that to him...and now they've let 55 staff go.

 

Kind of feels like he was proved right.

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19 minutes ago, CloudFox said:

Ozil is a fascinating case. Seems like he was most recently ostracized by Arteta for not taking a pay cut like the rest of the squad during the pandemic.

 

Apparently he wasn't unwilling though, he just wanted proof of what would be done with the funds saved to keep other staff in jobs. Arsenal wouldn't give that to him...and now they've let 55 staff go.

 

Kind of feels like he was proved right.

I’m never one for criticising how much footballers earn. They create wealth through their talent and are rewarded with a slice of the wealth.

 

However surely arsenal could argue that they had to let the 55 go because Ozil and a couple others didn’t take pay cuts.

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2 minutes ago, peach0000 said:

I’m never one for criticising how much footballers earn. They create wealth through their talent and are rewarded with a slice of the wealth.

 

However surely arsenal could argue that they had to let the 55 go because Ozil and a couple others didn’t take pay cuts.

Maybe. But it seems unlikely that, given those let go were on £30k pa each, let's say, the majority of a 25 man squad taking pay it's didn't save them enough money to retain the jobs. They're spending out on transfers this summer too, so how can they justify that?

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Premier League 2020/21 season can be completed with ‘half the matches’ under new plans
Premier League officials will propose plans to the top-flight clubs that could see the season completed with ‘half the matches’ amid concerns of a second Covid-19 wave


ByWarren MuggletonSport Reporter
08:14, 9 AUG 2020

Premier League organisers have suggested the 2020/21 season can be completed with “half the matches” in new plans.

Top-flight clubs are preparing for the new campaign to begin in September after discussions between shareholders last month.

The last campaign was suspended for three months due to Covid-19 – and it could still hit the next season, with fears of a second wave in Britain.

But the Standard has revealed how top-flight organisers are already preparing contingency plans for the 2020/21 campaign.

Proposals for the new term have seen the top-flight already pass the threshold for the season to be considered valid.


But a new meeting next week will see a plan proposed to see final placings decided by points per game if “50 per cent or more of all scheduled fixtures have been played”.

And it would see the title, European qualification and relegation all decided on this basis.

Premier League organisers would need a majority vote of of 70 per cent to get the plan across, with 14 of the 20 clubs voting for the “curtailment”.

But these implications would be scrapped if the 50 per-cent mark of fixtures, playing 18 or less games.

 


And top-flight administrators would contact UEFA to decide which clubs would qualify for Champions League and Europa League football.

The Premier League clubs will meet next week to discuss the proposal, with the aim of setting up a response at a meeting on September 3.

Organisers have already voted on rules for the new season at the Annual General Meeting earlier this week.


The number of substitutes was return to three, having been put at five since lockdown to help teams deal with fitness problems.

While VAR will get a new Referee Review Ares, which will see an increase in match officials using the pitch side monitor.

It will see subjective decisions such as red cards and penalties under review more often.

 

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league-202021-season-can-22491962

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53 minutes ago, davieG said:

Premier League 2020/21 season can be completed with ‘half the matches’ under new plans
Premier League officials will propose plans to the top-flight clubs that could see the season completed with ‘half the matches’ amid concerns of a second Covid-19 wave


ByWarren MuggletonSport Reporter
08:14, 9 AUG 2020

Premier League organisers have suggested the 2020/21 season can be completed with “half the matches” in new plans.

Top-flight clubs are preparing for the new campaign to begin in September after discussions between shareholders last month.

The last campaign was suspended for three months due to Covid-19 – and it could still hit the next season, with fears of a second wave in Britain.

But the Standard has revealed how top-flight organisers are already preparing contingency plans for the 2020/21 campaign.

Proposals for the new term have seen the top-flight already pass the threshold for the season to be considered valid.


But a new meeting next week will see a plan proposed to see final placings decided by points per game if “50 per cent or more of all scheduled fixtures have been played”.

And it would see the title, European qualification and relegation all decided on this basis.

Premier League organisers would need a majority vote of of 70 per cent to get the plan across, with 14 of the 20 clubs voting for the “curtailment”.

But these implications would be scrapped if the 50 per-cent mark of fixtures, playing 18 or less games.

 


And top-flight administrators would contact UEFA to decide which clubs would qualify for Champions League and Europa League football.

The Premier League clubs will meet next week to discuss the proposal, with the aim of setting up a response at a meeting on September 3.

Organisers have already voted on rules for the new season at the Annual General Meeting earlier this week.


The number of substitutes was return to three, having been put at five since lockdown to help teams deal with fitness problems.

While VAR will get a new Referee Review Ares, which will see an increase in match officials using the pitch side monitor.

It will see subjective decisions such as red cards and penalties under review more often.

 

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league-202021-season-can-22491962

We best hit the ground running then, another half of a season like recent months and we'll be in a relegation battle. NULL AND VOID.

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