weller54 9,146 Posted 25 November 2020 Report Share Posted 25 November 2020 Brunts will be gutted! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wymsey 4,560 Posted 25 November 2020 Report Share Posted 25 November 2020 (edited) Reckon even Hassenhuttl with what he has done at Southampton since after beating them 0-9 would be a better nomination than Bielsa. Edited 25 November 2020 by Wymsey 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Muzzy_Larsson 3,246 Posted 25 November 2020 Report Share Posted 25 November 2020 2 minutes ago, Wymsey said: Reckon even Hassenhuttl with what he has done at Southampton since after beating them 0-9 would be a better nomination than Bielsa. Agreed. Don't get me wrong Bielsa is a great coach but what's he done so far at Leeds, took a side out the Championship that really should have been in the premier league anyway. Fair enough if he were to finish top 6 or something this season but it's too early to judge how they'll do in the premier league. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aus Fox 8,131 Posted 25 November 2020 Report Share Posted 25 November 2020 That’s a joke, he didn’t even get a particularly high points total, compared to the teams who have been champions since we went up. In fact since we went up what 7 years ago, had there been a team with a lower points total for winning the league? Didn’t do anything in the cups either. Weird, I can’t see anything he’s done in his career that a hundred average championship managers haven’t done previously. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AjcW 5,254 Posted 25 November 2020 Report Share Posted 25 November 2020 48 minutes ago, Muzzy_Larsson said: I don't think your far off it here. Celtic would be a good move for Howe, a less risk adverse job to re-build his reputation and then walk into another EPL job in a few years, similar to what Rodgers done in all honesty. I'd take howe in a minute at Celtic although that would involve sacking the idiot currently in charge which our prehistoric, indecisive board seem incapable of doing. He's odds on favourite at the moment anyway. This last bit is interesting, if Howe meant absolutely anything he said on MNF then he wouldn't go near a set up like this. Question for you Muzzy... why do you think you haven't been taken over? If you look at a comparative team in a league that they win with their eyes closed, PSG, the fact that the league wont make them much money isn't seen as an issue for their investors and they've used their money to advance PSG in Europe/The world. I just wonder, when you look at the likes of Derby County getting UAE money, how on earth hasn't something like that triggered at Celtic over the years? Even a bunch like our owners, surely almost guaranteed league success with the chance of building an incredible squad for Europe is enticing? I get, as i've said many times, it would be tricky to entice players away from the top european leagues to play in the SPL, but maybe if the money situation was different that could change? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StanSP 26,227 Posted 25 November 2020 Report Share Posted 25 November 2020 I can't work out why Bielsa is nominated. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wymsey 4,560 Posted 25 November 2020 Report Share Posted 25 November 2020 1 minute ago, StanSP said: I can't work out why Bielsa is nominated. Are they part of the 'media darlings' list?.. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RowlattsFox 2,212 Posted 25 November 2020 Report Share Posted 25 November 2020 Bielsa being nominated for Manager of the year for getting promoted to the Premier league is astonishing, i genuinely can't believe it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Muzzy_Larsson 3,246 Posted 25 November 2020 Report Share Posted 25 November 2020 3 hours ago, AjcW said: This last bit is interesting, if Howe meant absolutely anything he said on MNF then he wouldn't go near a set up like this. Question for you Muzzy... why do you think you haven't been taken over? If you look at a comparative team in a league that they win with their eyes closed, PSG, the fact that the league wont make them much money isn't seen as an issue for their investors and they've used their money to advance PSG in Europe/The world. I just wonder, when you look at the likes of Derby County getting UAE money, how on earth hasn't something like that triggered at Celtic over the years? Even a bunch like our owners, surely almost guaranteed league success with the chance of building an incredible squad for Europe is enticing? I get, as i've said many times, it would be tricky to entice players away from the top european leagues to play in the SPL, but maybe if the money situation was different that could change? Yeah I saw the same, rumour has it lawell is going at the end of the season also though. The high profile managerial appointments we make Desmond seems to handle all those personally anyway. It's a good question, I think the sole reason is that we operate in a backwater league and a very restrictive market, there isn't much room for us to grow unless we leave Scotland. FFP makes it very hard for us to pay massive wages to entice better players to come to Scotland. Clubs like the Derby's of this world have the carrot of the pathway to the EPL and if they were to make it the value of the club will virtually double overnight. There have been a couple of tenuous rumours the last few years about Qatari's eyeing us up but not sure there is anything substantial in them. Our largest and second largest shareholders are already bona fide billionaires but hey don't really put any money into the club, 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Angus Scott 356 Posted 25 November 2020 Report Share Posted 25 November 2020 Surely this has to be a scam, Bielsa nominated as one of the top 5 managers in the world - for winning England's second tier championship. It's a complete joke, I just don't understand why this bloke is so lauded. It must be because he sits on a bucket 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Bear 3,638 Posted 25 November 2020 Report Share Posted 25 November 2020 Even Nuno should be ahead of him. Got a promoted team into the quarter-finals of Europe and still finished 7th in the PL the same season. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
st albans fox 8,297 Posted 25 November 2020 Report Share Posted 25 November 2020 1 hour ago, Angus Scott said: Surely this has to be a scam, Bielsa nominated as one of the top 5 managers in the world - for winning England's second tier championship. It's a complete joke, I just don't understand why this bloke is so lauded. It must be because he sits on a bucket i think it is because of the bucket Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Corky 12,841 Posted 25 November 2020 Report Share Posted 25 November 2020 I don't see the reason for Bielsa being there but some journalist said Lampard did a better job than him last season- really? Lampard finished a place and six points below Sarri's season and Sarri was pretty much loathed. Bloke mentioned how great British managers are then moaned they don't get the credit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Walkers 2,777 Posted 25 November 2020 Report Share Posted 25 November 2020 Could name five managers in this country alone that did a better job than Bielsa last season Don't ask me to name them though Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sand cats 61 Posted 26 November 2020 Report Share Posted 26 November 2020 Leicester should have played similarly to what Atalanta did today against Liverpool, aggressive football, solid confidence and mentality, they came to win and showed no sign that they are in doubt about it. Leicester is a stronger side than Atalanta but Atalanta manager got it right when playing attacking football and dominating which surprised Liverpool. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PhillippaT 950 Posted 26 November 2020 Report Share Posted 26 November 2020 52 minutes ago, Walkers said: Could name five managers in this country alone that did a better job than Bielsa last season Don't ask me to name them though 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
honeybradger 604 Posted 26 November 2020 Report Share Posted 26 November 2020 23 minutes ago, Sand cats said: Leicester should have played similarly to what Atalanta did today against Liverpool, aggressive football, solid confidence and mentality, they came to win and showed no sign that they are in doubt about it. Leicester is a stronger side than Atalanta but Atalanta manager got it right when playing attacking football and dominating which surprised Liverpool. Eh atalanta had their first 11 out (from what i could tell) i agree our first 11 is stronger than theirs but with albrighton at rwb you cant really argue we have a stronger side atm. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CrispinLA in Texas 108 Posted 26 November 2020 Report Share Posted 26 November 2020 Now Liverpool probably feels like us, parts of the media said we could beat Liverpool but they played good. And than everyone said how Liverpool are brilliant. Seems they also came crashing down yesterday, the hype about them came crashing down yesterday, the players thought Atalanta would be a easy turnover, but they gave Liverpool no respect, maybe Leicester should have given Liverpool the same treatment. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lanefox 387 Posted 26 November 2020 Report Share Posted 26 November 2020 19 hours ago, los dedos said: A couple of prem managers nominated Did Steve Coppell get nominated when he got most points in a promotion season with Reading 🤷♂️ 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HighPeakFox 10,469 Posted 26 November 2020 Report Share Posted 26 November 2020 Maybe Liverpool had run out of gas by beating us. It can happen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post RobHawk 1,187 Posted 26 November 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted 26 November 2020 They say the championship is the hardest league to get out of, maybe Rooney will be in the running next year, he's doing a good job of getting derby out of it 🤣 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StanSP 26,227 Posted 26 November 2020 Report Share Posted 26 November 2020 Digne out for 2 months for Everton. Big miss for them. Seems to have done well under Ancelotti in their team. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Spudulike 3,202 Posted 26 November 2020 Report Share Posted 26 November 2020 Andre Villas Boas has asked FIFA to retire the No. 10 shirt from football (all clubs). What's your new number gonna be Madders? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lambert09 2,766 Posted 26 November 2020 Report Share Posted 26 November 2020 31 minutes ago, StanSP said: Digne out for 2 months for Everton. Big miss for them. Seems to have done well under Ancelotti in their team. I saw somewhere, amongst the Liverpool moaning that Everton had had the best record with injuries. This will be a big blow for sure and good for us. I feel like they are the biggest competition for ‘best of the rest’ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StanSP 26,227 Posted 26 November 2020 Report Share Posted 26 November 2020 27 minutes ago, Spudulike said: Andre Villas Boas has asked FIFA to retire the No. 10 shirt from football (all clubs). What's your new number gonna be Madders? Not sure I agree with this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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