Premier League 2020/21 Thread

[fuchsntf 5,873]

1 hour ago, StriderHiryu said:

This is a great point and it’s why Man City are favourites over Man United. But I’ll say one thing, it’s clearly visible how much more confident Man U are these days compared to any time in the last 4-5 years and the momentum is clearly with them right now. Doesn’t mean they will win it, but they look at time of writing like they think they can win it, and confidence is huge in a situation like this. 
 

That said in recent weeks it’s pleasing that Kasper, Evans and Albrighton, all players with experience of winning the league, have come to the fore. Vardy is off form but still linking play very well in the team. But we have to hope that the mental collapse of last season is used to stop it happening this time round! That’s the scary thing for me - our players have very recent history of not being able to handle the pressure. We look mentally much stronger so far this season though!

So Vardy..off - form, is when he doesn't score.??   If he wasnt on the Pitch These last few games, who created the movement,Space, assist to assist etc.etc

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[TheUltimateWinner 6,633]

Says the man who played Salah, Henderson, Mane and Wijnaldum against Villa U18s!

[filbertway 2,854]

4 minutes ago, fuchsntf said:

So Vardy..off - form, is when he doesn't score.??   If he wasnt in the Pitch These last few games, who created the movement,Space, assist to assist etc.etc

I thought the same, hes not really playing any differently,  the only difference is hes not had a penalty or tap in.

[Nalis 5,309]

2 hours ago, Dahnsouff said:

Was just thinking, obviously Man City have loads, but who in the Man Utd team have any experience of coping with the pressure of a title challenge in this league?

Might be one for the unpopular opinion thread but I always think experience is given too much weight over ability.  

 

To counter point myself a little though, I think Man City will win it due to their superior ability anyway.

[fuchsntf 5,873]

2 hours ago, Dahnsouff said:

Was just thinking, obviously Man City have loads, but who in the Man Utd team have any experience of coping with the pressure of a title challenge in this league?

Like, Leicester...,Liverpool, Man.citys first title....

Look at the Club & players at Manutd...some Top title winners..

[Dahnsouff 5,677]

1 minute ago, fuchsntf said:

Like, Leicester...,Liverpool, Man.citys first title....

Look at the Club & players at Manutd...some Top title winners..

Yes, wasn't saying it was in any way a negative or a cause for concern for Man Utd, its just they were an ever present during my slightly younger days (hmm) and now they have so few comparatively who know the experience

[fuchsntf 5,873]

3 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Yes, wasn't saying it was in any way a negative or a cause for concern for Man Utd, its just they were an ever present during my slightly younger days (hmm) and now they have so few comparatively who know the experience

Like Fergusons young bloods,who Hansen, said famously/infamously..."you dont win titles with kids"...

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21 minutes ago, fuchsntf said:

So Vardy..off - form, is when he doesn't score.??   If he wasnt on the Pitch These last few games, who created the movement,Space, assist to assist etc.etc

I think Vardy is not on his best form.  He still scares defences and creates opportunities and space for others.  Vardy off form means he is only an effective rather than exceptional player at the moment.   When a goat isn't feeling it's best, it's still a goat.

[Facecloth 13,279]

I didn't watch the game last night, but I've watched the highlights this morning. I think its a penalty, but also its one of those where you could say Barnes looks for contact with Allison. He gets a touch on the ball and then purposely drops his legs so it clips the keeper. We've heard that called cheating in the past, people through that "looking for contact" criticism at Vardy a lot in the past.

[StriderHiryu 17,558]

33 minutes ago, fuchsntf said:

So Vardy..off - form, is when he doesn't score.??   If he wasnt on the Pitch These last few games, who created the movement,Space, assist to assist etc.etc

I've literally said that he's "still linking play very well in the team." But it's a fact that against Southampton he had the most amount of chances he's ever had in any Premier League game and didn't score any, and didn't score against Chelsea either. Of course he's our talisman whose all round game is as important as his finishing, but he's not currently in the middle of a scoring streak. Hence off form by peak Jamie Vardy standards.

 

The good news is we are playing well and picking up points without him scoring. When he gets his shooting boots back on, it will take us to another level!

[HighPeakFox 11,327]

10 hours ago, StriderHiryu said:

 Man City have to be the favourites in their current form and past pedigree. 

The former I agree with, the latter is just posh-speak for 'they're big 6, therefore...'

 

[AjcW 5,531]

12 minutes ago, Facecloth said:

I didn't watch the game last night, but I've watched the highlights this morning. I think its a penalty, but also its one of those where you could say Barnes looks for contact with Allison. He gets a touch on the ball and then purposely drops his legs so it clips the keeper. We've heard that called cheating in the past, people through that "looking for contact" criticism at Vardy a lot in the past.

Tom Heaton was one of the pundits last night (sure.. not particularly impartial) but he essentially said you know that if the player gets the first touch you're ****ed, no matter the amount or style of contact. 

[Facecloth 13,279]

3 minutes ago, AjcW said:

Tom Heaton was one of the pundits last night (sure.. not particularly impartial) but he essentially said you know that if the player gets the first touch you're ****ed, no matter the amount or style of contact. 

Fair point. Allison did come flying out for a bouncing ball, where as if he'd held back a few feet, waited for Barnes to control a difficult ball, whilst off balance, he probably would have nicked the ball of him or blocked any shot. So only himself to blame. Just pointing out Barnes looks for contact.

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Odegaard continuing his form of going on loan to mid table clubs. 

[ARTY_FOX 1,596]

29 minutes ago, Facecloth said:

Fair point. Allison did come flying out for a bouncing ball, where as if he'd held back a few feet, waited for Barnes to control a difficult ball, whilst off balance, he probably would have nicked the ball of him or blocked any shot. So only himself to blame. Just pointing out Barnes looks for contact.

To be fair to Ashley Barnes (and j hate Ashley Barnes) it's the keepers fault. Makes more contact than when their little finger makes contact with the side of the strikers boot and they usually go down and it's called stonewall. But I do think if he isnt given the  penalty for the foul by Allison the blatant pull back by fabinho is enough. 

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1 hour ago, Dahnsouff said:

Yes, wasn't saying it was in any way a negative or a cause for concern for Man Utd, its just they were an ever present during my slightly younger days (hmm) and now they have so few comparatively who know the experience

I think the thing with man utd is they still seem close to disaster. I feel like I'm waiting for the first thing to go wrong and they'll spiral. 

[Facecloth 13,279]

4 minutes ago, ARTY_FOX said:

To be fair to Ashley Barnes (and j hate Ashley Barnes) it's the keepers fault. Makes more contact than when their little finger makes contact with the side of the strikers boot and they usually go down and it's called stonewall. But I do think if he isnt given the  penalty for the foul by Allison the blatant pull back by fabinho is enough. 

Oh yeah I hate Ashley Barnes with a passion. And the pull back by Fabinho was enough in itself like you say.

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[StanSP 28,177]

1 hour ago, TheUltimateWinner said:

Says the man who played Salah, Henderson, Mane and Wijnaldum against Villa U18s!

He's an idiot. 

 

Sunday 17th to Thursday 21st is not every 3 days. 

 

They had a break from Friday 8th January to Sunday 17th January. I make that 9 days. 

 

Before that, it was 4th Jan to 8th Jan. A 4-day gap. 

 

Before that, it was 30th Dec to 4th Jan. A 5-day gap. 

 

27-30th Dec was a gap. 

 

Before that, it was 19th December to 27th December. An 8-day gap. 

 

 

His excuse 'might' have worked earlier in the season (other teams also had similar situations) but he's off his head and deluded if he still thinks they're playing every 3 days. 

 

Not to mention they had one of the more favourable spacings of fixtures over the Christmas period compared to other sides. 

 

He's becoming moanier than ever. Almost like Jose was in that first Chelsea stint when the novelty wore off and things began not to go his way. Needs to wind it in. 

[StanSP 28,177]

Mat Ryan signs for Arsenal on loan. Bit out of the blue, that one. 

[egg_fried_rice 1,225]

3 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Mat Ryan signs for Arsenal on loan. Bit out of the blue, that one. 

Really weird. Clearly Brighton's best keeper with Sanchez not looking at all impressive, and Ryan is not likely to play ahead of Leno. Seems rubbish for the player (even if he did support them as a child) and Brighton, so not sure why they agreed to it?

[filbertway 2,854]

5 minutes ago, StanSP said:

Mat Ryan signs for Arsenal on loan. Bit out of the blue, that one. 

Really weird one, just seen a tweet that said he's currently 4th choice at Brighton 

[Fox92 11,700]

3 minutes ago, filbertway said:

Really weird one, just seen a tweet that said he's currently 4th choice at Brighton 

I was gonna say, every time I've seen Brighton recently he hasn't played. Not sure if he's been on the bench.

[Facecloth 13,279]

Ryan seems to have fell out if favour very quickly at Brighton. I've always thought he was a solid keeper. We've seen Potter leave Maupay out the team after a falling out before, so I wonder if Potter has a few run ins with certain players.

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Has he had a falling out with someone? If I recall some of his stats last season had been pretty impressive. Well that’s from memory but I’ve always thought he had a decent season. Strange as Leno will not be replaced.