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44 minutes ago, StanSP said:

He's an idiot. 

 

Sunday 17th to Thursday 21st is not every 3 days. 

 

They had a break from Friday 8th January to Sunday 17th January. I make that 9 days. 

 

Before that, it was 4th Jan to 8th Jan. A 4-day gap. 

 

Before that, it was 30th Dec to 4th Jan. A 5-day gap. 

 

27-30th Dec was a gap. 

 

Before that, it was 19th December to 27th December. An 8-day gap. 

 

 

His excuse 'might' have worked earlier in the season (other teams also had similar situations) but he's off his head and deluded if he still thinks they're playing every 3 days. 

 

Not to mention they had one of the more favourable spacings of fixtures over the Christmas period compared to other sides. 

 

He's becoming moanier than ever. Almost like Jose was in that first Chelsea stint when the novelty wore off and things began not to go his way. Needs to wind it in. 

Kloppo the Clown has been 'off his head' for quite some time if you ask me. 

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Zero sympathy for Klopp because as others have said he played an unnecessarily strong side against Villa in the cup and also did the same in a complete dead rubber in the CL when they’d already won the group and actually cost them Jota for 2 months!

 

With that said, I’m not going to stick my boot into them because this plight they’re in currently was inevitable at some point. They’ve been exceptional, truly exceptional for nearly 3 years and that level of consistency is almost unheard of.
Man City did pretty much the same but a year ahead of Liverpool and last year was their drop off in form and it’s taken them until now to look anywhere close to their best.
 

Liverpool will return but he needs to buy a centre half. Fabinho has been exceptional filling in but it means he’s not playing in his regular DM position and winning the ball back higher up the field. Him and Henderson in the middle are vital to that high press, high intensity game they play. Having them at CB nullifies that completely and makes them much easier to play against 

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2 hours ago, StriderHiryu said:

I've literally said that he's "still linking play very well in the team." But it's a fact that against Southampton he had the most amount of chances he's ever had in any Premier League game and didn't score any, and didn't score against Chelsea either. Of course he's our talisman whose all round game is as important as his finishing, but he's not currently in the middle of a scoring streak. Hence off form by peak Jamie Vardy standards.

 

The good news is we are playing well and picking up points without him scoring. When he gets his shooting boots back on, it will take us to another level!

Winning 4-0..instead of 2-0...:)

actually I agree, if he gets his Scoring Pants on again, the opposition Defence wont know where to look...but more  importantly, it will put us in a title competing position...

 

Another thought...I am a Albrighton fan, always One of the First to Jump in and defend him, or Smile & Let him Show his skills,

with my "told ya so" grin.

I would Love to see Under come in & give us that extra Mystery %, that Tips the scales from us being Top 3-5 candidates,to really attacking those Top 1-2 positions..

Still doesn't mean the Team with Marc.Albrighton the Legend are Not capable of picking up bis 2nd title...

 

Even Another thought...with Riccardo fit...might We see occasionally either Ric or Justin,  slipping into that WB roll, to give Albrighton the odd Short break,

If we go further in other competitions...

 

Many fans, criticise other posters, for suggesting moving/using other players out of position...

My answer to that...I Dont know what football many of These Critics have been watching, but in the last 50-60yrs, around UK & Europe,we've seen many a Player

make their names,moving away from original position successful or used across & through lines, its quite a normal Practice has seen in past & modern football...

Jesus..we wouldnt have seen Sweeper...DM,AM, WBs. .false 9, 8 or 10s..back 3,4 varying 5 created,then  forgotten ,then reinstated over the years...

 

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1 hour ago, StanSP said:

He's an idiot. 

 

Sunday 17th to Thursday 21st is not every 3 days. 

 

They had a break from Friday 8th January to Sunday 17th January. I make that 9 days. 

 

Before that, it was 4th Jan to 8th Jan. A 4-day gap. 

 

Before that, it was 30th Dec to 4th Jan. A 5-day gap. 

 

27-30th Dec was a gap. 

 

Before that, it was 19th December to 27th December. An 8-day gap. 

 

 

His excuse 'might' have worked earlier in the season (other teams also had similar situations) but he's off his head and deluded if he still thinks they're playing every 3 days. 

 

Not to mention they had one of the more favourable spacings of fixtures over the Christmas period compared to other sides. 

 

He's becoming moanier than ever. Almost like Jose was in that first Chelsea stint when the novelty wore off and things began not to go his way. Needs to wind it in. 

He's always been the same. Couldn't stand him when I lived by dortmund and still can't stand him now. When he came over he was just the new media loved manager and unfortunately everyone took the bait.

 

 

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52 minutes ago, egg_fried_rice said:

Really weird. Clearly Brighton's best keeper with Sanchez not looking at all impressive, and Ryan is not likely to play ahead of Leno. Seems rubbish for the player (even if he did support them as a child) and Brighton, so not sure why they agreed to it?

Just going as back up, Macey is off and that Runarsson looks awful 

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Hello ,Grebfromgrebland, you asked me who my teams were in a thread now closed so I'll post it here.. Apologies for late reply I was suspended (VAR appeal pending and FA enquiry pending). Well I admitted to Chelsea, I lived in London and despite the Arsenal double team playing at Highbury. the Chelsea team were much better to watch, the Chelsea of Osgood , altho I called him Hosgood as at that time it was almost compulsory that your name began with an "H". Hollins,Houseman,Harris, Hudson,Harris again ,Harry Cooke ,(he was Charlie at home) etc.

 Leicester and Chelsea are the only teams I would go out of my way to watch but I like almost all teams except Man.U, Real Madrid , Bayern Munich and PSG., Oh and temporarily Newcastle.

I especially like Notts Forest, Notts County, PSV Eindhoven, Ipswich and all the PL teams who are underfunded, Burnley, The Bournemouth of Eddie Howe and a few others.

 

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49 minutes ago, Staffs Fox said:

Zero sympathy for Klopp because as others have said he played an unnecessarily strong side against Villa in the cup and also did the same in a complete dead rubber in the CL when they’d already won the group and actually cost them Jota for 2 months!

 

With that said, I’m not going to stick my boot into them because this plight they’re in currently was inevitable at some point. They’ve been exceptional, truly exceptional for nearly 3 years and that level of consistency is almost unheard of.
Man City did pretty much the same but a year ahead of Liverpool and last year was their drop off in form and it’s taken them until now to look anywhere close to their best.
 

Liverpool will return but he needs to buy a centre half. Fabinho has been exceptional filling in but it means he’s not playing in his regular DM position and winning the ball back higher up the field. Him and Henderson in the middle are vital to that high press, high intensity game they play. Having them at CB nullifies that completely and makes them much easier to play against 

And clearly Klopp doesn't have faith in his two young centre backs. One of them looked relatively slow against West Brom so perhaps that could be the reason he will not play them.

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4 hours ago, StriderHiryu said:

That said in recent weeks it’s pleasing that Kasper, Evans and Albrighton, all players with experience of winning the league, have come to the fore. Vardy is off form but still linking play very well in the team. But we have to hope that the mental collapse of last season is used to stop it happening this time round! That’s the scary thing for me - our players have very recent history of not being able to handle the pressure. We look mentally much stronger so far this season though!

That mix of experience and youth is essential in a pressure-cooker situation like this. One season on and Tielemans and Maddison have matured. Justin and Fofana appear to have been born with 'old heads' anyway. However, Castagne's return seems to have coincided with this rise in discipline and confidence. Once the defence and defensive midfield had steadied then the attack has had a chance to consolidate its work - I think the plaudits given to Maddison in the national press hint at his much-increased effectiveness.

 

Vardy plays at such a high level of awareness and reaction that it might appear that he's "off form" when not scoring - but the striker's life is one of droughts and abundance based on the reaction/position being millimetres and micro-seconds off.

I wonder if, as the rest of the shooters are doing so well and he is carrying a long-term injury, that he may be relaxing a wee bit and has lost some sharpness. But his contribution in creating opportunities is almost as crucial to City has his goals. And Vardy off-form is pretty well equivalent to the majority of Prem strikers being on-form.

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1 hour ago, fuchsntf said:

I would love to see Under come in & give us that extra mystery %, that tips the scales from us being top 3-5 candidates,to really attacking those top 1-2 positions.

Yes - from what I've seen he does exactly the opposite of Gray. He gets 'stuck in' - trying to create openings and he has the desire to score from the edge of the action. He has energy too. At 2-0 up against a demoralised Chelsea and BR plays it safe and brings Perez and Iheanacho on - Uender would have been the 'cat amongst the pigeons'.

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That's a big miss for Man City. They've missed someone like David Silva at times when attacking, don't have a good enough striker so may struggle. Pep sorted out the defence now he has to try and find a way to get more goals in the team without their best player. 

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4 hours ago, filbertway said:

I thought the same, hes not really playing any differently,  the only difference is hes not had a penalty or tap in.

I don’t think his movement is there, like he’s holding himself back a bit. 

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25 minutes ago, Blarmy said:

I don’t think his movement is there, like he’s holding himself back a bit. 

Agreed, I feel that recently he hasn't been latching onto scoring opportunities with his usual speed, soureness and fluidity of movement.  Now we know why.

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6 hours ago, ARTY_FOX said:

He's always been the same. Couldn't stand him when I lived by dortmund and still can't stand him now. When he came over he was just the new media loved manager and unfortunately everyone took the bait.

 

 

Different Living near Dortmund..than actually being a BvB fan...

I can tell you..BVB fans loved the job he did & still follow him..!!

 

I reckon Klopp knows more about Football fhe characters needed.Ne has warnt the right, like Mourhino, to Share his opinions...und Let them be known.

I find so called fans trying to demean Everything everhword ofmanager A Or B have to say, Shows more about the Perpatrators

of such pathetic Bullshit than anything the said managers do or say...

 

Hes a Top manager, his opinions are his. He gets questioned more than most, so he will spout out more than most....Hes sat in 'the chair', while others find some

weird justice to have a cheap Pop at the Football managers....In Germany I liked him, es a Mainz Player & manager I liked him,has a BvB manager & occasional

Punkt I liked him, Taking the L'pool job, obvious he would get it right. I Dont find him arrogant or over-baring....Be gives an honest,sometimes emotional opinion,

I might agree or disagree with those opinions....but I respect him & find he is a reasonable up-Front guy admits his mistakes....More importantly he was been successfull.

Probably thats the reason some People believe its reasonable to have a Pop at him and others,who have brought the Promised  cake home...

So you only lived in Dortmund...He Made a name for Football crazy Town & himself while earning his crust in Dortmund...

Now repeating it, in another Football crazy town...

Seems too much for some..!!  Innit.

 

I am embarrassed ,that this forums Members ( outside the banter) Keep having cheap Shots at all the Top 6...

They have earnt either by hook or crook those Top 6 positions, the slimey & good media attention & their plastic-fans .& Sky.

They built traditions of winning or holding decent levels & positions through a top League & europe, over many years,

with several Comebacks from back then right  to the present...!!!

 

I am happy we have our semi-Rich ( so should be no Hypocritical bullshit) but humble owners, and the way we have built our character, ethos, spirit & home about our business. Like Athletico, its nice we find ourselves to Keep our Underdog shadow while

having a chance to Nick the occasional "tasties" and dine from the Top table.Before we get cocky & over-ourselves,

We have to find that Level consistently & still have majority ( Not all) of our Quality players really wanting to stay...

Silly Background  chirping from our forum, means diddley-squat..!!

 

A few years ago, sneakey, cynical unneedy Pot shots , a damn rarity, & somewhat below the Form of this usually fair forum.

Now it seems "Eastenders, Falcon-crest,New coronation-street". Soap mentality is seeping into football debates..!

Shame..its become too often

 

Mind you thats only my Opinion..like..!! :P

So Shoot me..!!

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, ARTY_FOX said:

To be fair to Ashley Barnes (and j hate Ashley Barnes) it's the keepers fault. Makes more contact than when their little finger makes contact with the side of the strikers boot and they usually go down and it's called stonewall. But I do think if he isnt given the  penalty for the foul by Allison the blatant pull back by fabinho is enough. 

I'm not sure he would have got it for the pull back but its a definite penalty. You have to remember when you're running hard a player on the ground in front of you is besr protected by you going down, If you have your stride broken and try to stay up its usually difficult to avoid putting your boot down on the guy on the ground. Barnes (and Vardy if accused ) or any other striker have to be given the benefit of the doubt as to whether they were protecting Allison (in this case). 

But in any case under current VAR rules it was a penalty

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3 hours ago, Hammo said:

Kloppo the Clown has been 'off his head' for quite some time if you ask me. 

**** klopp and as for his methods I find it facinating the minute those lot cant press a team to death how average they look

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1 hour ago, gerblod said:

Yes - from what I've seen he does exactly the opposite of Gray. He gets 'stuck in' - trying to create openings and he has the desire to score from the edge of the action. He has energy too. At 2-0 up against a demoralised Chelsea and BR plays it safe and brings Perez and Iheanacho on - Uender would have been the 'cat amongst the pigeons'.

I Dont get greedy, by creating a summision on the managers character..We dont know whats happening behind the scenes, nor the Whys & wherefors

We won 2-0, where before many fans were pssing themselves, we could of seen more goals...

Under is not being selected to play, from start or Bench....Rodgers will have his reasons..No manager sees it , or ticks like the fans...

He quite correctly probably saw Perez & Nacho being the Dynamic descision...I

 

Probably Under doesn't even make it for Brentford...

My thoughts are based  on, Everything is ok & Under is presenting himself as willing n ready for the cause, across all bases.

Or Rodgers just doesn't rate what he brings..I have no idea..!!

Another take...The team Sets up for Albrighton, but Rodgers wants to totally change the channels, when he makes the subs..

Or the best shot,  Rodgers just likes pssing Off this forum....lol

 

 

 

 

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So Liverpool are stuttering due to losing key players, Man city and Leicester potentially affected by losing their 2 best/most influential players that just leaves MANURE. Surely Bruno or Pogba and Cavani or all 3 is due for an long term injury now??  :whistle:

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2 hours ago, fuchsntf said:

Different Living near Dortmund..than actually being a BvB fan...

I can tell you..BVB fans loved the job he did & still follow him..!!

 

I reckon Klopp knows more about Football fhe characters needed.Ne has warnt the right, like Mourhino, to Share his opinions...und Let them be known.

I find so called fans trying to demean Everything everhword ofmanager A Or B have to say, Shows more about the Perpatrators

of such pathetic Bullshit than anything the said managers do or say...

 

Hes a Top manager, his opinions are his. He gets questioned more than most, so he will spout out more than most....Hes sat in 'the chair', while others find some

weird justice to have a cheap Pop at the Football managers....In Germany I liked him, es a Mainz Player & manager I liked him,has a BvB manager & occasional

Punkt I liked him, Taking the L'pool job, obvious he would get it right. I Dont find him arrogant or over-baring....Be gives an honest,sometimes emotional opinion,

I might agree or disagree with those opinions....but I respect him & find he is a reasonable up-Front guy admits his mistakes....More importantly he was been successfull.

Probably thats the reason some People believe its reasonable to have a Pop at him and others,who have brought the Promised  cake home...

So you only lived in Dortmund...He Made a name for Football crazy Town & himself while earning his crust in Dortmund...I

Now repeating it, in another Football crazy town...

Seems too much for some..!!  Innit.

 

I am embarrassed ,that this forums Members ( outside the banter) Keep having cheap Shots at all the Top 6...

They have earnt either by hook or crook those Top 6 positions, the slimey & good media attention & their plastic-fans .& Sky.

They built traditions of winning or holding decent levels & positions through a top League & europe, over many years,

with several Comebacks from back then right  to the present...!!!

 

I am happy we have our semi-Rich ( so should be no Hypocritical bullshit) but humble owners, and the way we have built our character, ethos, spirit & home

about our business. Like Athletico, its nice we find ourselves to Keep our Underdog shadow while

having a chance to Nick the occasional "tasties" and dine from the Top table.Before we get cocky & over-ourselves, We have to find that Level consistently &

still have majority ( Not all) of our Quality players Really wanting to stay...Silly Background  chirping from our forum, means diddley-squat..!!

 

A few years ago, sneakey, cynical unneedy Pot shots, were a few years ago, a damn rarity, & somewhat below the Form of this usually fair forum.

Now it seems "Eastenders, Falcon-crest,New coronation-street". Soap mentality is seeping into football debates..!

Shame..its become too often

 

Mind you thats only my Opinion..like..!! :Pich

So Shoot me..!!

 

 

 

I know dortmund fans did. Everyone supported dortmund. I was in gutersloh, sort of a town in the county distance from the city 20 min drive or so I think?  You'd have the odd Munich/shalke fan but generally they were all dortmund. I just found klopp unbearable whilst I lived there. I do find him highly arrogant and he puts on an extremely thin facade (imo). He also falls into the 'play the way that let's us beat you or its not football' category. I just don't like how the man carries himself. You get a good shot at the real klopp when things aren't going perfect. 

 

For what its worth, I also couldn't care less if sky include us in a big 6 or 7 or in a title race. Them talking has no bearing over how we set up for games or how we play. If I'm honest. I much prefer the ignorance. Just as you are allowed your opinion on klopp I'm allowed mine. If it's embarrassing for me to dislike a manager or player for people then I'd say its more a problem with them than myself. 

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