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10 hours ago, deanolegend1989 said:

Leicester are ruining what they all want, we’re that annoying little pest that wouldn’t get lost and now are a genuine ‘semi dangerous threat’.

 

What we did in 15/16 shook the world but it was seen as ‘cute’ ‘miracle’ and would ‘never happen again’ , yet now with our owners and our project and current squad, we are seen as a more sustainable outfit and club and a threat and the big boys

But not until we replace Mendy?

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Vichai’s dream is being realised, our club is making great strides for the future and there is more to come with the stadium expansion and regeneration around the stadium exciting times are ahead.

 

I do think we have the capability to be Top 4 challengers every season, and hopefully more of our talented youngsters can bridge the gap between the youth set up and the first team.

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8 hours ago, deanolegend1989 said:

Athletico Madrid and Ajax are European giants, they would both probably be part of the situation of elite clubs.

Leicester are not, you can tell the media hate giving us credit and don’t like it that we are good currently.

They would much rather a Everton, Leeds , Aston Villa or Newcastle to come out of the shadows than us. Even a West Ham is seen as more attractive and fashionable to become a bigger club than us.

We are seen in the same kind of light as Southampton or Wolves, a boring mid sized club that shouldn’t compete at the top end.


What we are doing is unprecedented, in terms of since the money came in 1992, no one has challenged the big 4/6 since Blackburn and Newcastle flirted..since 1996 no one has got near, in even a one off season, let alone over a few years sustaining in a challenge.

We have not only gone way and beyond anyone will for years, but we are building a model that’s sustainable and a legitimate threat to the established ‘big’ clubs in the future if they don’t do something about it.

 

It was a big 4, then because they formed a new club called Man City in 2008 and Spurs because they are Arsenals neighbours joined and they want to shut it there before there’s too many threats and not enough top players to go around.

 

I truly believe what we did has changed football in the future. They were getting their way and it was impossible to get anywhere near the CL , let alone win the damn thing. It’s made them scared and that there is a potential to compete with them if you get some fairly wealthy owners and run the club well - they want to stop that immediately.

Bolton had a good run about 15 years back, 4 consecutive top 8 finishes and a few points off top 4 on a couple of occasions 

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36 minutes ago, Blue Fox 72 said:

I have to agree with @deanolegend1989 on this. The history of Ajax and Atletico Madrid makes them two of the very sort of clubs you are referring to.

Not really. Football has changed. The likes of Atleti and Ajax couldn’t turn down the transfers of Griezmann and De Jong. Atleti also let Theo Hernandez off to Real. They are equally reliant on other clubs developing players, so they sign them, develop and selling to bigger fry. 
 

They have to sell in order to make themselves sustainable. The Italian cartel of Juve and the Milan clubs and the big two of Spain want to keep the likes of Ajax and Atleti smaller, so they can easily pick off their players.
 

Ajax and Atleti going deep in the Champions League utterly pisses the elite off because it effects audiences, tv deals which are split by country pool (Holland have a brilliant equality payment system on European football) and gives those clubs the money to avoid selling players.
 

European football is split into tiers of which there are a number of ‘superclubs’ - PSG, Juve, Bayern, Barca and Real then you next set of Atleti, Dortmund (all clubs which whilst having a history require the free market of domestic competitions to keep themselves functioning). 
 

To say it’s just Leicester what’s caused the big clubs to change tact is incorrect because they have always threaten to split on repeat occasions (back when we were in the lower tiers). We also ain’t the only unfancied, ‘provincial’ club in living memory to win a top 5 European league or hang around for a number of years after that. 
 

That’s without mentioning Atalanta, Sevilla (a club what only pulls in 30k - whilst their city rivals are larger in that sense), Villarreal, Leverkusen who’ve all for periods shit on ‘bigger clubs’ by taking European spots. 
 

In fact just to add it it’s a single club what have attributed to the change it’s Atalanta. Their success in Serie A has made it harder for the Milan clubs to recover (who carry a lot of weight with UEFA).

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1 hour ago, Ric Flair said:

West Ham have got a lovely run of piss easy games coming up. We need to keep on track, likewise Chelsea.

Huh? they have Spurs, Leeds, Man City and Man Utd in the next 6 games.

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1 hour ago, howie said:

Bolton had a good run about 15 years back, 4 consecutive top 8 finishes and a few points off top 4 on a couple of occasions 

Unfortunately for them they are still paying it off but what a cast of lead characters they had back 

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Concussion substitutions seem flawed to me. So if you make a concussion substitute then the other team gets to make their own tactical substitute. For example if a team gets the goalkeeper sent off without any subs left to make, they could try and cause a concussion to the other team or pretend to have concussion to make a concussion sub for tactical reasons. 

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1 minute ago, Ian Nacho said:

Concussion substitutions seem flawed to me. So if you make a concussion substitute then the other team gets to make their own tactical substitute. For example if a team gets the goalkeeper sent off without any subs left to make, they could try and cause a concussion to the other team or pretend to have concussion to make a concussion sub for tactical reasons. 

How would you overcome that? Technically any side could fake a concussion sub at any given time... 

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Just now, Ian Nacho said:

Concussion substitutions seem flawed to me. So if you make a concussion substitute then the other team gets to make their own tactical substitute. For example if a team gets the goalkeeper sent off without any subs left to make, they could try and cause a concussion to the other team or pretend to have concussion to make a concussion sub for tactical reasons. 

I don’t see the point of them. If someone has got concussion then they should just be substituted as part of your 3 substitutions. If you have used all 3 subs already then it’s tough and your down to 10 men.

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4 minutes ago, foxes_rule1978 said:

Arsenal are mid table these days... could find them selfs finishing outside the top 10 lol 

That defending would have embarrassed league one teams, let alone mid table premier league.

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I think they should be allowed, but only after you've used up your original three subs. Which is going to be later in in the game if it happens. Then the opposition also gets to make an extra sub at the same time if they've used all their three. 

 

That would stop 99% of anybody going down deliberately holding their head. 

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Anyone notice how a lot of commentary these days is just a shit load of stats? 

 

It's not commentary. If I wanted stats or records I could look them up myself. 

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Concussion subs should be temporary substitutes for anyone with a head bump, so they can have a proper concussion test - to be done properly these take a lot longer than a minute or two on the sidelines. 
If the player is concussed then they stay off, if not they return to the field.

This would also stop clowns going down clutching their face every time someone gets within an mm of their head.

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Just now, StanSP said:

Anyone notice how a lot of commentary these days is just a shit load of stats? 

 

It's not commentary. If I wanted stats or records I could look them up myself. 

It’s all rehearsed rubbish to make it sound like they know what they are talking about.

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And Keown isn't sure what Cedric is thinking for the goal. Quite clearly a pass back to Gabriel which wasn't picked up on by him :dunno:. It's not rocket science! 

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