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Have to say I'm enjoying Liverpool falling away. Klopp is such a twat and it's rubbing off on players like Robertson and TAA. Keane is right with them. Also HOW MANY DOCUMENTARIES CAN TV COMPANIES MAKE ABOUT THEM WINNING THE LEAGUE. There's been about 3 and it's hardly a story.

 

Rant over.

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I just want to play devils advocate here - he obviously feels strongly enough about this to withdraw himself from selection at the weekend (and fair play to him), but is (by the looks of it) happy to do a game on Wednesday night in the cup. What difference does the competition make in this scenario? Or do we think he’s just doing it because it’s been agreed and would be a ballache to change it at the last minute? 
 

He either wants to come out the firing line or he doesn’t, surely? 

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2 minutes ago, Manini said:

I just want to play devils advocate here - he obviously feels strongly enough about this to withdraw himself from selection at the weekend (and fair play to him), but is (by the looks of it) happy to do a game on Wednesday night in the cup. What difference does the competition make in this scenario? Or do we think he’s just doing it because it’s been agreed and would be a ballache to change it at the last minute? 
 

He either wants to come out the firing line or he doesn’t, surely? 

I would imagine the FA Cup has a smaller audience than the global entity that is the PL.

 

I do agree though - odd he can do the Wednesday but not the weekend. Maybe it coincides with the break he was due as mentioned above.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Manini said:

I just want to play devils advocate here - he obviously feels strongly enough about this to withdraw himself from selection at the weekend (and fair play to him), but is (by the looks of it) happy to do a game on Wednesday night in the cup. What difference does the competition make in this scenario? Or do we think he’s just doing it because it’s been agreed and would be a ballache to change it at the last minute? 
 

He either wants to come out the firing line or he doesn’t, surely? 

I think it's entirely possible that someone has messaged him online and sent an empty death threat, which isn't nice. I also think that he either already knew or had a strong feeling that he'd be dropped from prem matches for a while so everyone gets to save face.

 

Like you say, if he was genuinely concerned then he wouldn't be reffing on Wednesday.

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When a referee that has been officiating matches this long in the PL this tends to occasionally happen;

 

They walk over to the screen, they already want to get the red card out, they pretend to veiw the footage, they nonchalantly walk back with a swagger that scooby doo would be proud of and send the player off. 

 

Abuse should never be accepted whatsoever, but it often has a route cause and Mike Dean is doing himself no favours. Hes been doing this for years. I reiterate though that online hate has no place in society no matter who you are.

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9 minutes ago, Footballwipe said:

When people try to make excuses for death threats by trying to make a conspiracy that he "knew he was getting dropped" well, it kind of sums up how shit football is these days.

 

Everyone has an agenda, everyone is crap or useless and should never referee again. I don't know where we're going here, but it's not good.

 

This sport is getting more and more toxic as the seasons pass because it seems the endless viciousness and idiocy of fans will never end. It's horrible.

 

I feel that the PGMOL have “blood on their hands” here to a certain extent for not taking him out of the spotlight earlier, they’ve allowed this situation to bear fruit quite needlessly. We’ve seen multiple instances over the years where referees are given a bit of a break after they’ve made a few mistakes, why is this situation different? I don’t blame Dean here, at all, he ****ed up and he probably knows that too and if he could go back he’d probably change his mind. But allowing him to continue under the cloud of the first dodgy decision may have affected his judgement for his other mistakes, we don’t know if that is the case but it might be. 
 

I want to reiterate that online abuse is vile and needless and I hope that those responsible are prosecuted but this was a situation that was quite easily avoidable. 

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Controversial opinion but Dean is actually one of the best officials in the league in my opinion. His eccentric style makes him more open for abuse where other worse referees get away with being shocking because they are almost anonymous. I always think dean shows equal contempt for all teams and players and is one of the few officials that doesn't seem openly bias.

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1 minute ago, peach0000 said:

Controversial opinion but Dean is actually one of the best officials in the league in my opinion. His eccentric style makes him more open for abuse where other worse referees get away with being shocking because they are almost anonymous. I always think dean shows equal contempt for all teams and players and is one of the few officials that doesn't seem openly bias.

I wholeheartedly disagree. The bit in bold made me laugh though lol 

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20 minutes ago, Manini said:

I just want to play devils advocate here - he obviously feels strongly enough about this to withdraw himself from selection at the weekend (and fair play to him), but is (by the looks of it) happy to do a game on Wednesday night in the cup. What difference does the competition make in this scenario? Or do we think he’s just doing it because it’s been agreed and would be a ballache to change it at the last minute? 
 

He either wants to come out the firing line or he doesn’t, surely? 

He was already allocated the game on Wednesday, premier league games at the weekend haven’t been allocated yet 

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The VAR folk need to kop the criticism more than the refs. Their decisions dictate most of the ref's. And they have the time and tools to get things right, yet constantly don't. 

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5 minutes ago, peach0000 said:

Controversial opinion but Dean is actually one of the best officials in the league in my opinion. His eccentric style makes him more open for abuse where other worse referees get away with being shocking because they are almost anonymous. I always think dean shows equal contempt for all teams and players and is one of the few officials that doesn't seem openly bias.

I agree. He's a willy puller but OK official. Which makes him very good in PL standings.

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You’ve got poor refs being put on VAR. To use a computer science term, it’s garbage in garbage out.

 

Until you get the standard of officiating right, VAR will always be flawed.


Goes without saying the death threats and threats of any kind are terrible and should never be tolerated. No doubt it’s probably the same idiots who send racist abuse to players.

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Death threats obviously not ok but we do need a look at the refs in the Prem. There’s a collection of them that love themselves and hell bent on ruining games. Jon Moss is the worst for it 

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42 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

 

Death threats go beyond anything acceptable. This is the refs governing bodies fault. Too many times, referees are below the requisite standard in this league and VAR has just highlighted that. The approach of the authorities make them untouchable. It’s unfortunate that something like this has to occur to perhaps improve education. This is elite level sport and this is arguably the best domestic league in the world. Dean, Mason etc. Are clearly not up to the job and need training in handling pressure and complaints and communication (the way they dismiss managers is embarrassing). The industry needs a clean up.

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