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1 hour ago, dsr-burnley said:

He doesn't feature on the right because he's definitely better on the left.  Crossing is his strong point and his left foot is the better one.

 

The number of assists surprises me as being low.  VAR took a couple away because of someone being a quarter of an inch offside.  Others (like Westwood's goal against you) don't count as assists because a defender touched the ball.  Corners tend to be flicked on by Mee for Wood to score so the corner taker doesn't get the assist. 

 

Goals will come when he shoots more in matches like he does (so I'm told) in training.

Considering the wingers the manager picks aren’t really crossers and we don’t really play that way, or have the forwards for it... it doesn’t make a huge amount of sense does it that we’d even want him.

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2 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

No its not, but the priority signing with potentially a huge chunk of our budget has to be a right winger. If we have funds available to get a good back up/competition for Barnes then great but it's way down the list of transfer business we need to do first.

So while we're going after a right winger we shouldn't buy players available who fit our requirements but are further down the priority list?

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59 minutes ago, Lesta2014 said:

No, but if he was the only winger we signed we haven’t really solved the problem have we?

My point was that perhaps we are looking to buy two wingers, this guy sorts a problem that Rodgers etc think we have but that doesn't mean they aren't also looking to sign a right winger.

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Just now, hackneyfox said:

So while we're going after a right winger we shouldn't buy players available who fit our requirements but are further down the priority list?

Not if we don't have the funds to bring in them all and we've more pressing signings to make first (RW and CB) and especially not when this signing would be our record signing and take up the majority of our budget. If it was Ryan Fraser or a player on a sensible fee then I'd trust the club know what they are doing but if we sign McNeil for £35-40m then he is our main signing for out wide and yet again it will continue to be a problem (right wing) like it has since Riyad left.

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I’ve read through this thread but I’m missing where the talk of £32 million and our confirmed interest is coming from? 

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1 minute ago, Nick said:

I’ve read through this thread but I’m missing where the talk of £32 million and our confirmed interest is coming from? 

Hot sauce 

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2 minutes ago, Stephen Hughes said:

Hot sauce 

Do you do links as well as shite banter? 😆 

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17 minutes ago, Nick said:

I’ve read through this thread but I’m missing where the talk of £32 million and our confirmed interest is coming from? 

@SecretPro 

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25 minutes ago, hackneyfox said:

My point was that perhaps we are looking to buy two wingers, this guy sorts a problem that Rodgers etc think we have but that doesn't mean they aren't also looking to sign a right winger.

Get you, ye I agree with this! If only winger coming in then it’s a no from me! If it’s him plus a right sided il take that! 

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Just now, Lesta2014 said:

Get you, ye I agree with this! If only winger coming in then it’s a no from me! If it’s him plus a right sided il take that! 

How do you think we fund both given a) we also need a centre half and possibly another CM and a striker? 

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Just now, Ric Flair said:

How do you think we fund both given a) we also need a centre half and possibly another CM and a striker? 

I think chilwell goes and helps fund our activity this window 

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1 minute ago, Lesta2014 said:

I think chilwell goes and helps fund our activity this window 

Selling chilwell to fund mcneil would be a massive mistake

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14 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

Selling chilwell to fund mcneil would be a massive mistake

If we sell Chilwell it will be for around twice as much as we might theoretically pay for McNeil.

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1 hour ago, Ric Flair said:

There we go, yet our fans are happy to ignore any reasons why he hasn't featured on the right wing much. For that reason I'm out.

..If it is just he is better on his left foot, to justify being on the left, then we are missing a trick!!!

  His stats are low and I think that is due to not playing as an inverted winger. If he played on the right the obvious plan would be to shoot across the keeper and with his technique, his control of the ball (because he wraps his foot around the ball), would double or more his existing stats in relation to goals.

 As a left footer playing at Left Wing means any shots on goal would be predominantly to the near post. Any shots across the keeper would have to be with the outside of his foot in order to bring the ball back in.

 His skill set allows him (when playing on the right) to gain the extra yard required in order to get his shot off. If he was switched to the right and Barnes stay left we could save money and have two inverted wingers. Barnes might just feed off him by trying to match up to McNeil, which is something Barnes badly needs.

  McNeil crossing is misleading the perception and we need to take that part of his game out of the discussion as he can bring a lot more to the table, should we realise there is a glaring option by making the switch.

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11 minutes ago, Lesta2014 said:

I think chilwell goes and helps fund our activity this window 

I think so too but I still think even selling Chilwell our net spend will only be £30-40m max as it tends to be most seasons. If we get £70m for Chilwell and another £10m in odds and sods we've £120m 

 

Therefore I see something like this:

 

New left back £20m

Right winger £40m

Centre back £30m

Striker £20m

 

Probably leaves us £10-20m based on the above fees perhaps not being quite as much to get a back up DCM and perhaps another winger/creative midfielder. We may well sell Gray which would boost the funds a bit more.

 

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34 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

How do you think we fund both given a) we also need a centre half and possibly another CM and a striker? 

A loan. Or two.

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This is a good signing if is happens in my opinion. I think he is being looked at to complement Chilly, I think the two will work well together.

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34 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

Selling chilwell to fund mcneil would be a massive mistake

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1 minute ago, Pliskin said:

This is a good signing if is happens in my opinion. I think he is being looked at to complement Chilly, I think the two will work well together.

What makes you think that?  Considering McNeil likes to get on the outside of players and pull crosses back? Chillwell about cries every time Barnes tries to go outside the full back.

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19 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

I think so too but I still think even selling Chilwell our net spend will only be £30-40m max as it tends to be most seasons. If we get £70m for Chilwell and another £10m in odds and sods we've £120m 

 

Therefore I see something like this:

 

New left back £20m

Right winger £40m

Centre back £30m

Striker £20m

 

Probably leaves us £10-20m based on the above fees perhaps not being quite as much to get a back up DCM and perhaps another winger/creative midfielder. We may well sell Gray which would boost the funds a bit more.

 

Looks about right to be fair! 2 more months just under until the window closes. I think I need to go on football manager and spend ridiculous money on players who aren’t that good just to plug the gap :D

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1 hour ago, Ric Flair said:

Not if we don't have the funds to bring in them all and we've more pressing signings to make first (RW and CB) and especially not when this signing would be our record signing and take up the majority of our budget. If it was Ryan Fraser or a player on a sensible fee then I'd trust the club know what they are doing but if we sign McNeil for £35-40m then he is our main signing for out wide and yet again it will continue to be a problem (right wing) like it has since Riyad left.

I agree that our priorities should be RW and CB but.....

1.We don't know if we are actually interested in him

2. We don't know how much his price is

3. We don’t know how much our transfer budget is this year

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48 minutes ago, Lesta2014 said:

I think chilwell goes and helps fund our activity this window 

 

46 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

Selling chilwell to fund mcneil would be a massive mistake


 

 

If Carlsberg did mistakes...

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55 minutes ago, Deeg67 said:

If we sell Chilwell it will be for around twice as much as we might theoretically pay for McNeil.

Where did i say all that money would go towards getting Mcneil? If we sold chilwell for 60 and bought 2 mcneil quality players for 30 it would not be worth it.

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