Robo61 9 Posted 12 September Report Share Posted 12 September 1 hour ago, Katy said: Yes, looking forward to more doughnuts and caps as soon as possible. Funny how they had to be mythered into making the £70 mean something though eh? Firstly I never mentioned doughnuts etc, and would broadly agree with you on that topic, I was just pointing out that Wolves ST are significantly more expensive than ours. Secondly the offer to credit the £70 against next seasons ST if grounds aren't at full capacity by the end of this season, was not a change in policy given that the original proposal never contemplated that scenario. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hackneyfox 1,373 Posted 12 September Report Share Posted 12 September 52 minutes ago, Robo61 said: Firstly I never mentioned doughnuts etc, and would broadly agree with you on that topic, I was just pointing out that Wolves ST are significantly more expensive than ours. Secondly the offer to credit the £70 against next seasons ST if grounds aren't at full capacity by the end of this season, was not a change in policy given that the original proposal never contemplated that scenario. Wasting your time, moaners got to moan. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jammie82uk 1,447 Posted 12 September Report Share Posted 12 September 1 hour ago, hackneyfox said: Wasting your time, moaners got to moan. Since when was having an opinion “moaning” ? 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hackneyfox 1,373 Posted 12 September Report Share Posted 12 September You can have positive opinions and negative opinions. If someone takes all of their complaints about PL Football, tv rights etc and blames them all on the club then ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HighPeakFox 9,636 Posted 12 September Report Share Posted 12 September 7 minutes ago, hackneyfox said: You can have positive opinions and negative opinions. If someone takes all of their complaints about PL Football, tv rights etc and blames them all on the club then ... Props to you for your patience. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Katy 416 Posted 12 September Report Share Posted 12 September 3 hours ago, Robo61 said: Firstly I never mentioned doughnuts etc, and would broadly agree with you on that topic, I was just pointing out that Wolves ST are significantly more expensive than ours. Secondly the offer to credit the £70 against next seasons ST if grounds aren't at full capacity by the end of this season, was not a change in policy given that the original proposal never contemplated that scenario. It *was* money for nothing, that’s my issue. 52 minutes ago, hackneyfox said: You can have positive opinions and negative opinions. If someone takes all of their complaints about PL Football, tv rights etc and blames them all on the club then ... If I’m not happy with something, I’ll complain about it or moan if that‘s your preferred term - which it clearly is. Sorry if that doesn’t fit in with your happy clapper-ness but tough shit. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Robo61 9 Posted 12 September Report Share Posted 12 September 40 minutes ago, Katy said: It *was* money for nothing, that’s my issue. No it was not, it was a deposit on your your ST. The original document made that clear, it simply omitted to say what would happen in the event of ST's not being available this season. This was corrected in the second document, though it changed nothing in reality. I agree that it should not have been omitted, but don't believe there was ever an intention to take money for no service. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Katy 416 Posted 12 September Report Share Posted 12 September 16 minutes ago, Robo61 said: No it was not, it was a deposit on your your ST. The original document made that clear, it simply omitted to say what would happen in the event of ST's not being available this season. This was corrected in the second document, though it changed nothing in reality. I agree that it should not have been omitted, but don't believe there was ever an intention to take money for no service. If the stadium wasn’t at full capacity this season then we would’ve lost the money. That‘s what a lot of people were taking issue with because that what the club put out. Whether that was the intent or not, that’s what some were lead to believe. It was up to the club to be loud and clear about that and they were not, they changed it - great, nothing to see here now. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jammie82uk 1,447 Posted 12 September Report Share Posted 12 September 16 minutes ago, Katy said: If the stadium wasn’t at full capacity this season then we would’ve lost the money. That‘s what a lot of people were taking issue with because that what the club put out. Whether that was the intent or not, that’s what some were lead to believe. It was up to the club to be loud and clear about that and they were not, they changed it - great, nothing to see here now. Agreed Yeah exactly which they eventually was but it shouldn’t have taken the fans to point it out this was the before and after Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Robo61 9 Posted 12 September Report Share Posted 12 September 15 minutes ago, Katy said: If the stadium wasn’t at full capacity this season then we would’ve lost the money. No we would not have, as they have now made clear. Wolves charge over £100 a season more for their ST's but apparently in your eyes they look after their supporters better than our owners whose only crime seems to be a minor omission in communicating. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Robo61 9 Posted 12 September Report Share Posted 12 September 4 minutes ago, jammie82uk said: Agreed Yeah exactly which they eventually was but it shouldn’t have taken the fans to point it out this was the before and after Unless I have missed something the update did not change this, i.e there will be no refund if you choose not to purchase a ST for either 2020/21 if these become available, or 2021/22, if they don't. All it did was confirm that the £70 could be put towards your 2021/22 ST. Yes this should have been said originally, but it is clear to me that was always going to be the case. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Katy 416 Posted 12 September Report Share Posted 12 September 50 minutes ago, Robo61 said: Unless I have missed something the update did not change this, i.e there will be no refund if you choose not to purchase a ST for either 2020/21 if these become available, or 2021/22, if they don't. All it did was confirm that the £70 could be put towards your 2021/22 ST. Yes this should have been said originally, but it is clear to me that was always going to be the case. Not clear to everyone though, that’s the point I was making. Just because it was clear to you, doesn’t mean it was clear to everyone else. The club were not clear, they put out a very long wordy email on a Friday night and cleared off for the weekend. I don’t agree with what the club have done, some do and that’s fine but I’m ****ed if I’m going to keep posting the same thing just with different wording. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lcfcforever16 9 Posted 22 September Report Share Posted 22 September On 10/09/2020 at 10:51, hackneyfox said: I appreciate that but for so many one here we went from the sublime to the ridiculous. 10 months ago we had the best owners, best manager and best team. There's more of a connection between fans and club than there is between consumer and company I'd therefore expect there to be a bit more understanding and leeway given when the club makes a mistake. I spoke to Jim just before they decided to allow the £70 to roll over to next season. He seemed genuinely shocked at many of the comments he was reading. I couldn't disagree with him, as per normal there's an influx of negative posters when there's something to moan about. Not a fan of Jim, he's a wind up. Has caused more problems than solutions for supporters of late... including myself. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lcfcforever16 9 Posted 22 September Report Share Posted 22 September On 12/09/2020 at 10:26, jammie82uk said: “Unlike other Premier League clubs, Wolves will not be asking supporters to pay for a full season ticket up front when they will not have access to every home league game, and will instead be offering 2019/20 season ticket holders the chance to buy tickets on a match-by-match basis, when they feel safe, ready and comfortable to attend.” If not before this and Fulham’s decisions it certainly brings the “they can do it because they are rich” argument to its knees Tell that to Jim who was apparently saying that quote to someone who sent lcfc help an email from this forum! Jim is not suitable for his job! Just got some fame from that celebration when everyone else celebrated the same and he was just there in front of the camera in the right place at the right time. Overrated guy. He's always disappointed me with how he communicates with supporters. Needs some diplomatic skills. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hackneyfox 1,373 Posted 22 September Report Share Posted 22 September 6 hours ago, lcfcforever16 said: Not a fan of Jim, he's a wind up. Has caused more problems than solutions for supporters of late... including myself. Never heard anyone lese have a bad word to say about him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hackneyfox 1,373 Posted 22 September Report Share Posted 22 September 6 hours ago, lcfcforever16 said: Tell that to Jim who was apparently saying that quote to someone who sent lcfc help an email from this forum! Jim is not suitable for his job! Just got some fame from that celebration when everyone else celebrated the same and he was just there in front of the camera in the right place at the right time. Overrated guy. He's always disappointed me with how he communicates with supporters. Needs some diplomatic skills. Wrong bloke Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxinsocks 1,370 Posted 22 September Report Share Posted 22 September I like jim and he is as helpful as he can be even when fronting ridiculous club decisions. My biggest gripe us the lack of email communications from the club... they have our email yet ecoectbysvto check the news on the website dailey Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Footballwipe 1,920 Posted 22 September Report Share Posted 22 September 19 minutes ago, hackneyfox said: Never heard anyone lese have a bad word to say about him. Ah so you've gone from telling everyone they're wrong about their perception of the club to telling everyone who has a gripe against Jim that they're also wrong? That LCFC kool aid is strong stuff, isn't it? FWIW Jim seems like a decent guy, and in the time I've known him he's been really nice. That being said, I can't thrust my personal experiences on other people's, so it's a shame if people have genuinely had issues with him. At the end of the day I'd like to think he does his best, and never sets out to intentionally frustrate people. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hackneyfox 1,373 Posted 22 September Report Share Posted 22 September 5 minutes ago, Footballwipe said: Ah so you've gone from telling everyone they're wrong about their perception of the club to telling everyone who has a gripe against Jim that they're also wrong? That LCFC kool aid is strong stuff, isn't it? FWIW Jim seems like a decent guy, and in the time I've known him he's been really nice. That being said, I can't thrust my personal experiences on other people's, so it's a shame if people have genuinely had issues with him. At the end of the day I'd like to think he does his best, and never sets out to intentionally frustrate people. Apologies, didn't realise it was Jim who was caught celebrating on camera. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HighPeakFox 9,636 Posted 22 September Report Share Posted 22 September 23 minutes ago, foxinsocks said: I like jim and he is as helpful as he can be even when fronting ridiculous club decisions. My biggest gripe us the lack of email communications from the club... they have our email yet ecoectbysvto check the news on the website dailey Now I know that I can be pedantic about badly spelt words that can be worked out for their meaning. But this one, perhaps you might agree, is beyond comprehension... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxinsocks 1,370 Posted 22 September Report Share Posted 22 September Expect us to 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
davieG 16,600 Posted 22 September Report Share Posted 22 September 36 minutes ago, foxinsocks said: Expect us to ...... understand it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post Sol thewall Bamba 7,324 Posted 22 September Popular Post Report Share Posted 22 September (edited) There's zero chance of full capacity games this season, I'm convinced of that. Back when this was announced and people voiced their concerns, the usuals put them on blast calling them "ungrateful" yadda yadda yadda, but now it's conceivable that those that raised their issues with the club may have saved the collective fan base hundreds of thousands of pounds when that credit is carried over to next season. In the current climate especially that's a gargantuan amount of money so respect to anyone that spoke their piece and took flack for it, be it on here or on the cesspits of Facebook or Twitter. Edited 22 September by Sol thewall Bamba 7 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bayfox 2,739 Posted 22 September Report Share Posted 22 September 7 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: There's zero chance of full capacity games this season, I'm convinced of that. Back when this was announced and people voiced their concerns, the usuals put them on blast calling them "ungrateful" yadda yadda yadda, but now it's conceivable that those that raised their issues with the club may have saved the collective fan base hundreds of thousands of pounds when that credit is carried over to next season. In the current climate especially that's a gargantuan amount of money so respect to anyone that spoke their piece and took flack for it, be it on here or on the cesspits of Facebook or Twitter. I hope they spent my £220 wisely. I guess it paid someone for about 25 mins. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sol thewall Bamba 7,324 Posted 22 September Report Share Posted 22 September 3 minutes ago, Bayfox said: I hope they spent my £220 wisely. I guess it paid someone for about 25 mins. Blows my mind that people still think they pay the wages with their season tickets. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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