Dames 872 Posted 27 August 2020 Report Share Posted 27 August 2020 6 hours ago, bluebeau said: 50 million for Englands first choice left back? I think Chelsea got a steal & we lost out. However, the good news this week is that Madison has signed a new contract. Here's hoping we beat Chelsea & finish above them at the end of the season. You'd have a better chance of getting in the Queens knicker drawer. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fox92 11,721 Posted 27 August 2020 Report Share Posted 27 August 2020 He wasn't as bad as people make out. Just like Fuchs isn't as good as people make out. One solid season and the rest completely average but people look back with nostalgia. Chilwell is England's first choice left back now, regardless of competition in that position for the Country, £50m isn't much these days for a player like that. Hopefully the deal does rise to at least £60m. I'll be happy if/when we replace him but until then we look short still in that area. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bossman Blessed It 373 Posted 27 August 2020 Report Share Posted 27 August 2020 1 hour ago, Finnegan said: His defensive awareness is so poor when the ball is on the right, he ball watches and loses track so often of the right sided attack that he either loses their forward runs or he's too far away to close down when it's switched. His pace let's him recover, he's gotten much braver in the tackle, he's scored a couple of goals and nobody on earth can fault his work rate. Plus, he's our product and an international in this country. So sure, I'd have kept him in the side given the chance. It was massively frustrating to see that he'd quite easily be bullied by more aggressive attackers, particularly when a ball was whipped across from the other side. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finnegan 26,838 Posted 27 August 2020 Report Share Posted 27 August 2020 6 minutes ago, Fox92 said: He wasn't as bad as people make out. Half the forum think he's the second coming of Ashley Cole, the other half think he should be playing for Boston United. It's foxestalk. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hollyfox 924 Posted 27 August 2020 Report Share Posted 27 August 2020 (edited) Don't think he's that great but Lampard obviously sees something in him, which might add to his game. It's just the selling to your rivals bit that annoys me but, as with Harry, we just can't offer the same contracts or the chances to win things on a consistent basis. Should have got at least 70 mill😒 Edited 27 August 2020 by Hollyfox Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RowlattsFox 2,474 Posted 27 August 2020 Report Share Posted 27 August 2020 I wanted him to stay, but not gutted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fox96 84 Posted 27 August 2020 Report Share Posted 27 August 2020 Time will tell with this one. £50M at the moment is definitely lower than originally expected but if he struggles at Chelsea it will retrospectively look like amazing business. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shen 2,076 Posted 27 August 2020 Report Share Posted 27 August 2020 29 minutes ago, Fox92 said: He wasn't as bad as people make out. Just like Fuchs isn't as good as people make out. One solid season and the rest completely average but people look back with nostalgia. Chilwell is England's first choice left back now, regardless of competition in that position for the Country, £50m isn't much these days for a player like that. Hopefully the deal does rise to at least £60m. I'll be happy if/when we replace him but until then we look short still in that area. I'm sorry, but £50m absolutely is a lot of money! Leroy Sané, who is top class, went for less during this window. The value of English players keeps being overstated - the only reason they should have a higher value in England is because of UEFA home-grown rules. The difference in valuation is so stark within our team as well - Ricardo cost half of what we sold Chilwell for and he's far better. Soyuncu is undoubtedly better than Maguire, but there is no chance his transfer value is anywhere close to £85m. Selling English assets at a premium is fantastic business and I have no doubt we'll eventually sell Maddison and Barnes for huge profits in the future as well. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fox92 11,721 Posted 27 August 2020 Report Share Posted 27 August 2020 4 minutes ago, shen said: I'm sorry, but £50m absolutely is a lot of money! Leroy Sané, who is top class, went for less during this window. The value of English players keeps being overstated - the only reason they should have a higher value in England is because of UEFA home-grown rules. The difference in valuation is so stark within our team as well - Ricardo cost half of what we sold Chilwell for and he's far better. Soyuncu is undoubtedly better than Maguire, but there is no chance his transfer value is anywhere close to £85m. Selling English assets at a premium is fantastic business and I have no doubt we'll eventually sell Maddison and Barnes for huge profits in the future as well. £50m for a young English defender? It's not a lot. Stones went for £50m and isn't a great central defender and that was at least 3 years ago now. I know English players are overpriced, which is why I wanted more and hope it rises. But like I said, go into Europe and we can probably get a player just as good for half the price. A bit like Soyuncu. Sane's contract was up otherwise he may have gone for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lgfualol 10,237 Posted 27 August 2020 Report Share Posted 27 August 2020 It's probably a good deal for both sides but I am gutted. Will be weird seeing him play for Chelsea, who'll probably be going for the title. I think he will rise to the occasion and really make us feel shit about selling. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shen 2,076 Posted 27 August 2020 Report Share Posted 27 August 2020 1 minute ago, Fox92 said: £50m for a young English defender? It's not a lot. Stones went for £50m and isn't a great central defender and that was at least 3 years ago now. I know English players are overpriced, which is why I wanted more and hope it rises. But like I said, go into Europe and we can probably get a player just as good for half the price. A bit like Soyuncu. Sane's contract was up otherwise he may have gone for me. £50m is £50m, regardless of what nationality the player has. It could prove especially valuable for us during this Covid pandemic. It is a huge sum of money, even in today's market. We absolutely rinsed Man Utd last window (world record fee for Maguire is insane) which has promptly raised expectations that we can keep being this lucky. We should honestly be thrilled that we have (had) such prime sellable assets and that they perform to such a level that the rich clubs want to (stupidly) fork out this kind of money for them. By comparison, I was disappointed when we sold Mahrez for 'just' £60m. An award-winning and proven game-changing attacking player. That's £10m more than a solid if unspectacular left-back. Sané might have been on his last year, but he's so good he would undoubtedly have had Real Madrid, Barcelona, Juventus and British clubs courting him and pushing the price up. Don't forget that he represents that little extra value to Bayern as well by being home-grown. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxpleasure 452 Posted 27 August 2020 Report Share Posted 27 August 2020 Where does Chilwell rank in favourite City left backs. Fifth for me... 1 Nish 2 Rofe 3 Kamark 4 Fuchs 5 Chilwell Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rain King 1,623 Posted 27 August 2020 Report Share Posted 27 August 2020 4 minutes ago, foxpleasure said: Where does Chilwell rank in favourite City left backs. Fifth for me... 1 Nish 2 Rofe 3 Kamark 4 Fuchs 5 Chilwell Jesus, wouldn't be anywhere the top 10! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Christoph 466 Posted 27 August 2020 Report Share Posted 27 August 2020 Rather we would have kept him then sold him but if we replace him well then its all good. One of my worries is replacing too many English homegrown players with foreign non-homegrown players. If we get the lb from Ajax i'll be happy. Also see below to cheer yourself up for those who didn't want him to move lol. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twister 644 Posted 27 August 2020 Report Share Posted 27 August 2020 the age of the one club player is dead lets be honest. Maddisons new contract just enables the club to get a fee when a club offering more wages comes in for him in the next few years the 2016 team spirit will be hard for any non top four team to ever create ever again for me to win a league. its was the dying light in a greedy modern game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Finnegan 26,838 Posted 27 August 2020 Report Share Posted 27 August 2020 12 minutes ago, Christoph said: Rather we would have kept him then sold him but if we replace him well then its all good. One of my worries is replacing too many English homegrown players with foreign non-homegrown players. If we get the lb from Ajax i'll be happy. Also see below to cheer yourself up for those who didn't want him to move lol. The Norwich away one is amongst the most unforgivable for me. I haven't seen a defender have a game that bad for us since Sean St Ledger turned up hungover at Chelsea away in the cup after a week at the races. Watch that goal. Just embarrassing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gwyn 329 Posted 27 August 2020 Report Share Posted 27 August 2020 10 minutes ago, Christoph said: Rather we would have kept him then sold him but if we replace him well then its all good. One of my worries is replacing too many English homegrown players with foreign non-homegrown players. If we get the lb from Ajax i'll be happy. Also see below to cheer yourself up for those who didn't want him to move lol. Brilliant this because it reminds me of the real Ben Chilwell and his defensive awareness. Another pants down job from LCFC 👏👏👏👏 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fox92 11,721 Posted 27 August 2020 Report Share Posted 27 August 2020 9 minutes ago, twister said: the age of the one club player is dead lets be honest. Maddisons new contract just enables the club to get a fee when a club offering more wages comes in for him in the next few years the 2016 team spirit will be hard for any non top four team to ever create ever again for me to win a league. its was the dying light in a greedy modern game. And then players who stay and don't win much (like Shearer and Gerrard) just get the piss taken out of them. But staying and playing for the club they love will be bigger than winning anything else at another club. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twister 644 Posted 27 August 2020 Report Share Posted 27 August 2020 41 minutes ago, Fox92 said: And then players who stay and don't win much (like Shearer and Gerrard) just get the piss taken out of them. But staying and playing for the club they love will be bigger than winning anything else at another club. Yep its funny that Shearer who already had won the league title at blackburn choosing to play for his home town club, mocked for not winning the facup a tropthy big four have bought and kept mostly for 25 years. I think he wins the last laugh for me 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CrispinLA in Texas 148 Posted 27 August 2020 Report Share Posted 27 August 2020 Just read he went for £45m, l really don't know what to make of that figure. I would of thought we could of got around £55m to £60m for him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Aus Fox 8,567 Posted 27 August 2020 Report Share Posted 27 August 2020 1 hour ago, Rain King said: Jesus, wouldn't be anywhere the top 10! That’s because Jesus was powerless against crosses. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mapperleyfox 160 Posted 27 August 2020 Report Share Posted 27 August 2020 Let's have it right his head was turned by the Chelsea move and all the financial rewards that come with it a months ago, no doubt they started sowing the seeds long before lockdown. That's been reflected in his more recent performances pre-injury when to be frank he was absolute dogshit, probably distracted by his upcoming big move, culminating in his post match laughing with his to-be team mates after the FA cup game which didn't go down well. He's been a decent player for us, suited our style of play, albeit with a lot to learn so to get £50m plus is a great deal IMO assuming we get a decent replacement. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ozleicester 7,386 Posted 27 August 2020 Report Share Posted 27 August 2020 15 minutes ago, Aus Fox said: That’s because Jesus was powerless against crosses. Nailed it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
silebyboy 125 Posted 27 August 2020 Report Share Posted 27 August 2020 Disappointed rather than gutted. It’s more what losing him represents than actually losing that specific player for me. Maybe I’m a dreamer, but I’d like to see Leicester become a destination rather than a stepping stone. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Foxxed 4,278 Posted 27 August 2020 Report Share Posted 27 August 2020 Sad to see an academy player leave. But I feel he'd improve more elsewhere. The reluctance to pass to Barnes irked me to be honest. As far as the academy is concerned, the guy's a legend: from under 8s to the England squad and champions league football. You have to respect that. Good luck to him. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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