Muzzy_Larsson 3,324 Posted 15 November 2020 Report Share Posted 15 November 2020 3 minutes ago, StevieLynex said: He's having to play defensively, because he knows that if he plays a back four, with the likes of Maguire, Chilwell, Dier/Mings, and Walker) we will be ripped apart at international level That just doesn't make sense. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cardiff_Fox 6,071 Posted 15 November 2020 Report Share Posted 15 November 2020 We have probably the worlds outstanding right back prospect as well but Southgate won’t use him. Or if he doesn’t bodges him at RWB. His constant use of Walker is up there with his obsession on Mount (stems from his assistant being his manager through the Chelsea youth ranks). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
foxes_rule1978 3,270 Posted 15 November 2020 Report Share Posted 15 November 2020 3 minutes ago, StevieLynex said: He's having to play defensively, because he knows that if he plays a back four, with the likes of Maguire, Chilwell, Dier/Mings, and Walker) we will be ripped apart at international level For me you play to your strengths, and that is our attack... Southgate has been playing this formation even against teams like Denmark and Iceland; we looked lost and total rubbish in all of them. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Muzzy_Larsson 3,324 Posted 15 November 2020 Report Share Posted 15 November 2020 Just now, RowlattsFox said: There is definitely an element of English players looking better for their clubs because of what they are surrounded by. I would put Sterling in that category. You can say that about most english players and every England side for the last three decades though. That tells me it's not the players but something more systemic. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TK95 2,102 Posted 15 November 2020 Report Share Posted 15 November 2020 33 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said: I’ll put a bet on that England won’t win anything under Southgate That'll be 1-5000 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Red Squirrel 361 Posted 15 November 2020 Report Share Posted 15 November 2020 2 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said: So whose the other options then on the wing? You are selected on the basis of your club form which Sancho has done consistently better than any other English winger. Club form is fair comment but when you get to international level you you have to affect the game. Grealish the obvious example. He also brings creativity from wide as he does on the left for Villa. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StevieLynex 316 Posted 15 November 2020 Report Share Posted 15 November 2020 2 minutes ago, RowlattsFox said: There is definitely an element of English players looking better for their clubs because of what they are surrounded by. I would put Sterling in that category. I agree. Think he has scored 13 international goals in 58 games. Most of his goals have been against the likes of Kosovo, Estonia, Lithuania, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Montenegro. He's scored twice against Spain - that's it against the top sides Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cardiff_Fox 6,071 Posted 15 November 2020 Report Share Posted 15 November 2020 Southgate’s successful spells with England stem from using the players you’ve got and putting them in a system what worked for them. The World Cup - the 3-5-2 worked a treat to cover the lack pace at central defence whilst utilising players like Trippier in their best manner. Practice set pieces to the hilt Nations League wins over Spain and Croatia saw an insistence to use the speed of Rashford and Sterling on the counter. Worked like a dream. This 3-4-3 has so many players in wrong positions and a sheer lack of balance. It neither protects the defence or allows creativity. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
st albans fox 8,310 Posted 15 November 2020 Report Share Posted 15 November 2020 Good to see Johnny getting an evening off ...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Muzzy_Larsson 3,324 Posted 15 November 2020 Report Share Posted 15 November 2020 Just now, StevieLynex said: I agree. Think he has scored 13 international goals in 58 games. Most of his goals have been against the likes of Kosovo, Estonia, Lithuania, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Montenegro. He's scored twice against Spain - that's it against the top sides Your turning statistics to suit your narrative here. How many goals has Harry Kane scored in the same time and what about the role Sterling has played in a lot of those? Sterling is the best wide player England have got, quite comfortably. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StevieLynex 316 Posted 15 November 2020 Report Share Posted 15 November 2020 1 minute ago, Muzzy_Larsson said: Your turning statistics to suit your narrative here. How many goals has Harry Kane scored in the same time and what about the role Sterling has played in a lot of those? Sterling is the best wide player England have got, quite comfortably. Kane 50 appearances, 32 goals Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Muzzy_Larsson 3,324 Posted 15 November 2020 Report Share Posted 15 November 2020 Just now, StevieLynex said: Kane 50 appearances, 32 goals Which is a tremendus return at international level, most of those goals, playing alongside Sterling, who is contributing to a potent attack, which gets missed looking at static statistics. You've still not suggested who replaces Sterling. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fightforever 824 Posted 15 November 2020 Report Share Posted 15 November 2020 In my opinion this should be our team Pope TAA Mings Gomez Chilwell Henderson Grealish Maddison Sancho Kane Sterling That team challenges for world cups when on half decent form with an attacking manager. 2 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StevieLynex 316 Posted 15 November 2020 Report Share Posted 15 November 2020 Just now, Muzzy_Larsson said: Which is a tremendus return at international level, most of those goals, playing alongside Sterling, who is contributing to a potent attack, which gets missed looking at static statistics. You've still not suggested who replaces Sterling. There's no one to replace him, because he's the best there is but this does not make him world class Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Fox 72 2,192 Posted 15 November 2020 Report Share Posted 15 November 2020 41 minutes ago, StevieLynex said: How come he hasn't called up Demi Gray If he joins Spurs on a free in the summer, he'll be in the squad before you can say Bob's your uncle. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anglodanglo 829 Posted 15 November 2020 Report Share Posted 15 November 2020 2 minutes ago, StevieLynex said: Kane 50 appearances, 32 goals 30 of them against Panama Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Muzzy_Larsson 3,324 Posted 15 November 2020 Report Share Posted 15 November 2020 Just now, StevieLynex said: There's no one to replace him, because he's the best there is but this does not make him world class I don't think everyone is saying he's world class tbh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StevieLynex 316 Posted 15 November 2020 Report Share Posted 15 November 2020 Just now, Anglodanglo said: 30 of them against Panama Croatis, France, Germany Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kingleicester 228 Posted 15 November 2020 Report Share Posted 15 November 2020 20 minutes ago, StevieLynex said: I'm afraid that Sterling falls into the category of vastly over hyped players, who only look good because they play for the big teams Nah Sterling is quality Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Muzzy_Larsson 3,324 Posted 15 November 2020 Report Share Posted 15 November 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Fightforever said: In my opinion this should be our team Pope TAA Mings Gomez Chilwell Henderson Grealish Maddison Sancho Kane Sterling That team challenges for world cups when on half decent form with an attacking manager. Maddison doesn't get near the England squad at the minute. Also you'd get absoluely murdered playing essentially 5 attacking midfielders/strikers, particularly with that defence. England need to play two holding players to protect the weakest area of the side, the defence. Edited 15 November 2020 by Muzzy_Larsson Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fightforever 824 Posted 15 November 2020 Report Share Posted 15 November 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Muzzy_Larsson said: Maddison doesn't get near the England squad at the minute. He's been alright for the club TBF but pop in any midfielder with an Iota of attacking and forward thinking ability in that role and we have a decent side. IMO Maddison can get in if Mount does. Edited 15 November 2020 by Fightforever Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StevieLynex 316 Posted 15 November 2020 Report Share Posted 15 November 2020 3 minutes ago, Fightforever said: In my opinion this should be our team Pope TAA Mings Gomez Chilwell Henderson Grealish Maddison Sancho Kane Sterling That team challenges for world cups when on half decent form with an attacking manager. Four defenders, three of whom cannot defend and the other one plays for a side that just avoided relegation last season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Muzzy_Larsson 3,324 Posted 15 November 2020 Report Share Posted 15 November 2020 Just now, Fightforever said: He's been alright for the club TBF but pop in any midfielder with an Iota of attacking and forward thinking ability and we have a decent side. He's not regualrly starting games for Leicester at the minute, he doesn't deserve to be in the squad until he is palying regularly and returns to the form on 12-18 months ago. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fightforever 824 Posted 15 November 2020 Report Share Posted 15 November 2020 Just now, Muzzy_Larsson said: He's not regualrly starting games for Leicester at the minute, he doesn't deserve to be in the squad until he is palying regularly and returns to the form on 12-18 months ago. More due to an injury he has had and the fact we have been playing a different system than him being bad tbh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
peach0000 1,585 Posted 15 November 2020 Report Share Posted 15 November 2020 5 minutes ago, Fightforever said: In my opinion this should be our team Pope TAA Mings Gomez Chilwell Henderson Grealish Maddison Sancho Kane Sterling That team challenges for world cups when on half decent form with an attacking manager. I'd have Maguire over Mings but apart from that this is exactly the team I'd pick. Foden could play instead of Grealish or Maddison as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.