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14 hours ago, st albans fox said:

the covid part will take a little time to know about ....... I would hope that returning players are asked not to socialise with those that remained until they have had a test. I would also hope that we would be carrying out lateral flow tests every day to ensure that an outbreak couldn’t gain any traction. Given the widespread availability of these tests, there is no excuse for any clubs having widespread infections now ........

Doesn't current Covid protocol require a test upon arrival?

Furthermore, all the international players have had several tests during the break.

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19 minutes ago, FoyleFox said:

Or hope the Leicester fan living in Northern Ireland isn't reading 😂

To make it worse, Jim who's now from Coleraine, could actually play for the Republic or Northern Ireland as you're free to choose either 😂

Either way, he's still not better than a 50 year old Evans. 

Or in the case of Rice and Grealish, just choose England 🤣

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12 hours ago, WigstonWanderer said:

Surely he’ll have to isolate for 14 days or whatever is the norm over there? Can’t see him being available for Saturday if he’s a close contact of a case :( It would risk infecting the entire squad. 

That's not the protocol.

 

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14 minutes ago, Corky said:

Schmeichel has won 14-0 in three games this week lol 

 

He's faced four shots on target in the matches, none tonight.

Let’s see if he can make it a nice round 20 - 0 against Man City to round out a perfect week or two

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11 hours ago, WigstonWanderer said:

Perhaps you’re right, but you’d expect close contacts of a confirmed case to have to quarantine otherwise it potentially risks the rest of the squad. Got admit I don’t know how they do things over there in practice. Anyway it seems it doesn’t apply in this case.

It's not a case of "over there". Every team adheres to the same FIFA protocols.

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3 hours ago, jayfox26 said:

Its mad how many good centre back France have. Fofana, Kounde, Badiashile, Konate, Upemacano all young then the 1st team choices of Kimpembe, Varane, Lenglet, Laporte etc etc. And we just have Stones who's any good and an average Maguire. Fofana would start for England's 1st team if he was English 

Willy Boly have had to switch to Cote D'Ivoire (after representing France at youth levels) for any international football

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3 hours ago, NaijaFox said:

It's not a case of "over there". Every team adheres to the same FIFA protocols.

Yes, I stand corrected. Seems rather risky to me, but it appears to have been working in practice so far, so fine.

 

Edit: I did find this document describing the FIFA protocols. It is very long and comprehensive so I only skipped through it.

 

https://resources.fifa.com/image/upload/1735-covid-19-fifa-s-return-to-football.pdf?cloudid=iepkvqns9kek6fltlx8k

 

It contains this line: 

 

“Any individuals who have been in close contact with other individuals with a positive laboratory confirmed COVID-19 result should immediately isolate and subsequently quarantine in accordance with the directives issued by the local health authorities. Under no circumstances should they enter or attempt to enter any official site used for the match.“

 

As far as I can tell, players are not deemed to be close contacts of each other, and there are huge sections in the document devoted to ensuring that this is the case (at least in principle), by distancing during meetings, etc. Not so sure how this works out in practice (see previous post re Danish players). Presumably playing a match is not considered close contact as such contact is brief.
 

My reference to “over there” refers to me being in Australia (“over there“ being in the UK). I believe protocols over here are much stricter, though I confess that I haven’t looked at precise arrangements here for elite sports. Generally speaking here, there is a distinction between being a close contact of a case (isolate for 14 days), and a casual contact (isolate until a PCR test returns a negative result).

 

Anyway, apologies for derailing the thread. Just want our lads to get back safely and be ready for Saturday.

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22 minutes ago, Corky said:

Maddison wasn't going anyway.

injuries aside - today, Maddison is way behind gealish and even lingard. But this can change - he needs to identify the areas of his game to improve and work hard.  he is not the finished article - he needed next season injury free - and to start making better decisions.

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1 hour ago, foxinsocks said:

injuries aside - today, Maddison is way behind gealish and even lingard. But this can change - he needs to identify the areas of his game to improve and work hard.  he is not the finished article - he needed next season injury free - and to start making better decisions.

He is 24 now so very nearly at his peak. His role with us has changed with Youri making the killer passes. He has become though a serious goal threat and when fit is one of the most dangerous attacking midfielders in the league.

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1 hour ago, Corky said:

Maddison wasn't going anyway.

Madders has struggled to get in the england set up by playing more as a ten for us. Last season rodgers tried to get him more as an eight (which is what Southgate wants) but we suffered as a consequence 

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1 hour ago, foxinsocks said:

injuries aside - today, Maddison is way behind gealish and even lingard. But this can change - he needs to identify the areas of his game to improve and work hard.  he is not the finished article - he needed next season injury free - and to start making better decisions.

He shouldn't be behind either, his performances in the league and cups this season has him well and truly up there with the best attacking midfielders in the league. From December through to his injury at Villa he was a big game player and match winner. Goals and assists coming out of his ears and pretty much matched what Grealish was doing, although they play in different positions anyway.

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1 hour ago, foxinsocks said:

injuries aside - today, Maddison is way behind gealish and even lingard. But this can change - he needs to identify the areas of his game to improve and work hard.  he is not the finished article - he needed next season injury free - and to start making better decisions.

He’s not behind Lingard (except to the extent that Southgate is more likely to return to players he’d previously used rather than turn to new ones). Seems some have already forgotten what a terrific season Madders was having before his injury. He was darn near unplayable in stretches. Lingard brings more energy, but certainly not the skill or vision of Maddison. 
 

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1 minute ago, Ric Flair said:

He shouldn't be behind either, his performances in the league and cups this season has him well and truly up there with the best attacking midfielders in the league. From December through to his injury at Villa he was a big game player and match winner. Goals and assists coming out of his ears and pretty much matched what Grealish was doing, although they play in different positions anyway.

I'm not sure Southgate wants the lot of them- Maddison, Grealish, Lingard. Grealish only seemed to get in because Southgate was bored of all the clamour, not through any great positivity about him.

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1 minute ago, Corky said:

I'm not sure Southgate wants the lot of them- Maddison, Grealish, Lingard. Grealish only seemed to get in because Southgate was bored of all the clamour, not through any great positivity about him.

He likes Lingard

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1 minute ago, NaijaFox said:

He likes Lingard

Not sure, he mentioned something about him only getting because of injuries this time.

 

Southgate has this reputation as a good public speaker but he does talk down plenty of players too.

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What are our thoughts on England's best 11 without the big 6

 

I'll start:

 

                    Pope

Justin    Mings   Coady      Cresswell

 

              Rice     Phillips

 

Sancho     Maddison      Grealish 

      

           Bamford/Calvert Lewin 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Just now, Lambert09 said:

What are our thoughts on England's best 11 without the big 6

 

I'll start:

 

                    Pope

Justin    Mings   Coady      Cresswell

 

              Rice     Phillips

 

Sancho     Maddison      Grealish 

      

           Bamford/Calvert Lewin 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Not a fan of the Rice - Phillips combo. Assuming Justin is injured for the Euros, otherwise would’ve taken him.

Gone for a full 23 man squad:

 

                        Pope 

Lamptey - Coady - Mings - Cresswell 

     Bellingham - Rice - Maddison

Sancho  -  Calvert-Lewin  -  Grealish 

 

Pickford / Johnstone / Cash / Keane / Tarkowski / Bertrand / Phillips / Ward-Prowse / Barnes / Bowen / Watkins / Ings

 

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