Foxes96 Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 Swear I’ve read before something about him preferring to stay and fight for his place rather than go elsewhere (possibly as a loan) due to being a local lad with a young family. Not sure if anyone will be able to confirm or deny?! Dont think he’s progressed as much as he could have these last couple of years but is still a solid back up player at this level and provides a different option to some of our other midfield players. Was used very effectively by Puel against some of the bigger sides in more of a destroyer role. Other point is him being a home trained player obviously adds to his value to us in terms of Europa next year. So unless he’s desperate to go would rather keep him as a decent rotation option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honeybradger Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 7 minutes ago, baldeagle said: I don’t really see any hate in this thread just some people saying they don’t think he’s good enough which is fair enough I get that it's an opinion but i cant see how people dont think he's good enough, especially for our bench. His agression, work rate and tackling ability makes him a very useful player to have in our squad. He's also technically very decent, he doesnt make killer final balls or dribble with the ball but despite that hiccup at the end of last season he is composed under pressure and a good progressive passer. Again like i said you dont have the performances against the big 6 that he's had by being average, he just needs a bit more consistency. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Nacho Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 A loan with a recall option wouldn’t be terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackneyfox Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 7 minutes ago, honeybradger said: I get that it's an opinion but i cant see how people dont think he's good enough, especially for our bench. His agression, work rate and tackling ability makes him a very useful player to have in our squad. He's also technically very decent, he doesnt make killer final balls or dribble with the ball but despite that hiccup at the end of last season he is composed under pressure and a good progressive passer. Again like i said you dont have the performances against the big 6 that he's had by being average, he just needs a bit more consistency. So no hate on here then, just people not being that keen on him and thinking we can do better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldeagle Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 7 minutes ago, honeybradger said: I get that it's an opinion but i cant see how people dont think he's good enough, especially for our bench. His agression, work rate and tackling ability makes him a very useful player to have in our squad. He's also technically very decent, he doesnt make killer final balls or dribble with the ball but despite that hiccup at the end of last season he is composed under pressure and a good progressive passer. Again like i said you dont have the performances against the big 6 that he's had by being average, he just needs a bit more consistency. But is he happy being a squad player ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackneyfox Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 Just now, baldeagle said: But is he happy being a squad player ? Weren't there rumours over a falling out as he felt he should be playing every week? If that is the case then we should ship him out sharpish, I'm all for players wanting first team football but not at the expense of squad harmony. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricey Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 I’m not a huge fan of Hamza. Too prone to a costly error or a red card. Pretty sure Brendan doesn’t trust him as well. He is homegrown though and after selling Chilwell I’m not sure we’ll want to lose another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldeagle Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 2 minutes ago, hackneyfox said: Weren't there rumours over a falling out as he felt he should be playing every week? If that is the case then we should ship him out sharpish, I'm all for players wanting first team football but not at the expense of squad harmony. Barring a handful of appearances where he was fantastic I think he’s looked average the rest of the time and reckless at others . And that I would say is why he’s not played more . It’s a tricky one as he will only Improve with games but we can’t afford to be playing him just for the sake of development when others are simple way ahead of him . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfc sheff Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 Quite simply he’s 20m or move on, English tax + club have every faith in him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 **** selling anybody. We need players in 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dahnsouff Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 For reference, Saints fans have started discussions on Hamza https://www.saintsweb.co.uk/topic/58212-hojbjerg-replacement/page/4/ Personally, undecided, he is great for the hustle and bustle stuff, but he always seems a bit lost when he has done the getting the ball bit and his recklessness is a concern that shows no sign of abating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheppyFox Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 BUY NOT SELL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reynard Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 He's young and could well get better. We simply can't sell and not have replacements lined up. Our usable squad is paper thin as it is. Unless we're going to not bother with the cups of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokes Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 He looked better in the double pivot because he had someone covering his back and was able to fly round like Robbie savage on roids, with no responsibility. Brendan’s rigid system, doesn’t really allow for this indiscipline and his lapse and over eagerness become much more magnified. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majaco Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 One of my favourite players from our current squad. He has the potential to be really good. In the middle of last season, I seem to remember him being highly regarded on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackneyfox Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 23 minutes ago, foxfanazer said: **** selling anybody. We need players in 17 minutes ago, SheppyFox said: BUY NOT SELL Selling Choudhury, Gray and Iheanacho could free up some decent money to buy players who will improve us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post urban.spaceman Posted 8 September 2020 Popular Post Share Posted 8 September 2020 Hamza's one of our own and I hope he stays for a long time yet. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turkish14 Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 1 hour ago, Le Renard said: I don't think Rodgers is too keen on him, I for one think he could be a very good player with the right supportive coach. I still don't get all the negativity on here though.....oh wait, one crap game and the hang'em & flog'em brigade on FT come out to play! It’s not that I’m my opinion, he is to much a liability with his over the top fouls. I’m constantly on edge watching him. when he has the ball he can then be way to relaxed often giving the ball away needlessly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, hackneyfox said: Selling Choudhury, Gray and Iheanacho could free up some decent money to buy players who will improve us. I like Hamza to be honest. Got a bit of fight about him, something we're lacking imo. Albeit that can get him into trouble sometimes Edited 8 September 2020 by foxfanazer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webbo Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 Very reckless, always looks like getting a card every match. For a decent fee I'd let him go. If Amartey gets fit he'd be a better option anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mod hero Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 His stock peaked with us when we beat arsenal 3-0 a while back. Since then not been to enamoured with him tbh. Not sure he’s good enough on the ball to play the way Rodgers likes - see Utd at home for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmayne7 Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 3 minutes ago, Webbo said: Very reckless, always looks like getting a card every match. For a decent fee I'd let him go. If Amartey gets fit he'd be a better option anyway. Amartey is one of the most timid footballers I've ever seen. Not cut out of a team that wants to press the ball or play at a high tempo... If that's still our plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HankMarvin Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 38 minutes ago, majaco said: One of my favourite players from our current squad. He has the potential to be really good. In the middle of last season, I seem to remember him being highly regarded on this forum. Yes, by the fickle fans probably the ones saying he was better than Ndidi or should be starting ahead of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaijaFox Posted 8 September 2020 Share Posted 8 September 2020 (edited) 40 minutes ago, majaco said: One of my favourite players from our current squad. He has the potential to be really good. In the middle of last season, I seem to remember him being highly regarded on this forum. On FT, a week old is a lifetime ago. Edited 8 September 2020 by NaijaFox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post stu Posted 8 September 2020 Popular Post Share Posted 8 September 2020 2 minutes ago, Webbo said: Very reckless, always looks like getting a card every match. For a decent fee I'd let him go. If Amartey gets fit he'd be a better option anyway. Yet for how reckless he apparently is, in 20 league appearances he only had 2 yellow cards and that was in the same game. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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