Jump to content

Recommended Posts

has anyone ever done one of these 16 personalities tests https://www.16personalities.com . my son has had to do one for a part time job he has applied for. are they bullshit or are they accurate, we both done one and it seems quite accurate for us but i was surprised he had to do one for a part time job, is this normal and does it actually work for hiring

 

im esfj consul, what are people that have done it and do you think it is bullshit or not

Link to post
Share on other sites

Havent clicked the link but it sounds like Myers-Briggs from what you are saying.

 

Mine was ESTP from memory though that was about 12 years ago.

 

I think the questions are up to interpretation in these type of things so depends on the context in which they are answered. For example, do you answer an introvert / extrovert question as if you are with your mates, or in work, or in public? They are three very different scenarios for the same question.

Edited by Nalis
Link to post
Share on other sites

I’ve done one at work, but certainly not for an interview. Frankly an employer should be more interested in using one to indicate how they manage you and how we are energised by different things, rather than whether they should employ you as a certain “type” in the first place.
 

Plus, none of the dimensions should really be treated as binary. They’re all really a scale and can change over time. They’re interesting as a snapshot for you and your mates, but making hiring decisions based on them is a mistake IMO.

  • Like 2
Link to post
Share on other sites
37 minutes ago, Desabafar said:

has anyone ever done one of these 16 personalities tests https://www.16personalities.com . my son has had to do one for a part time job he has applied for. are they bullshit or are they accurate, we both done one and it seems quite accurate for us but i was surprised he had to do one for a part time job, is this normal and does it actually work for hiring

 

im esfj consul, what are people that have done it and do you think it is bullshit or not

Its not bullshit

 

Myers–Briggs Type Indicator, The MBTI is based on the conceptual theory proposed by Swiss psychiatrist Carl Jung.

 

That said, I just look at the first letter normally, Introvert or extrovert when I see someone that has it displayed.

 

 

 

 

Edited by HankMarvin
Link to post
Share on other sites
46 minutes ago, Nalis said:

Havent clicked the link but it sounds like Myers-Briggs from what you are saying.

 

Mine was ESTP from memory though that was about 12 years ago.

 

I think the questions are up to interpretation in these type of things so depends on the context in which they are answered. For example, do you answer an introvert / extrovert question as if you are with your mates, or in work, or in public? They are three very different scenarios for the same question.

yeah the questions were very basic in that way. depends on the different situations and what not. anyway, i got adventurer which seems pretty accurate for me.

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

Just done the one from that link, quite impressed with the accuracy overall even if not all was right. I wasn't sure on all the questions what to put so if I sat down properly and thought about it harder might have been more accurate. Like I say though, definitely some accuracy to it. 

 

FWIW I'm an advocate, apparently.

Edited by pmcla26
Link to post
Share on other sites
19 minutes ago, don_danbury said:

yeah the questions were very basic in that way. depends on the different situations and what not. anyway, i got adventurer which seems pretty accurate for me.

I sat on the fence for about 5/6 at least that definitely would change depending on the scenario, but agree seems somewhat accurate still.

  • Like 1
Link to post
Share on other sites

Using them as part of a job interview seems pretty yikes to me. Just ask me about my personality if you want to actually know. 

 

This is like playing guess who but with personalities, you answer a bunch of questions and then based on the answer you get a profile that obviously matches somewhat with what you answered which happens to be how you see yourself. So of course it feels really accurate because that's how you just described yourself. It doesn't actually say anything about whether you actually have a correct read on your own personality. I'd find it more interesting if a bunch of people who knew me best had to answer based on what they thought of me and see how closely the answers matched with each other and my own self image.

 

 

Edited by LiberalFox
Link to post
Share on other sites

I had to do Belbin for work, I’m a monitor evaluator.

 

done this one too but just out of interest. I’m a mediator. Kind of accurate but I find the questions can be very subjective to ones mood when doing the test. 

Link to post
Share on other sites

I usually flip flop between INTP-T (Logician) and ENTP-T (Debater) depending on my frame of mind at the time. I think that's pretty much spot on for me, would probably be INTP most of the time.

 

It matches up well for me in other personality type tests so there must be some merit in it all but to what extent you can really gauge it is up in the air to me, there's lots of variables involved that can affect what comes out but its not meant to be taken as absolute, just a ballpark.

Link to post
Share on other sites

I think Introvert vs Extrovert is one that changes variably with mood and motivation for me. I get INFP-A (mediator) or ENFP-A (campaigner), usually INFP. I guess if you wanted to be cheeky you could try and game it a bit, would imagine if you're doing something public facing extroversion would be more appealing. 

Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, Desabafar said:

has anyone ever done one of these 16 personalities tests https://www.16personalities.com . my son has had to do one for a part time job he has applied for. are they bullshit or are they accurate, we both done one and it seems quite accurate for us but i was surprised he had to do one for a part time job, is this normal and does it actually work for hiring

 

im esfj consul, what are people that have done it and do you think it is bullshit or not

I came out as an ESFP (Entertainer) on this which makes sense as my job involves (did involve) lots of public speaking and training people.

 

I'm not a huge fan of psychometrics but can see their value as part of the recruitment process.

 

The problem in business is that people can get 'pigeon holed' and also use their personality types as an excuse. The amount of times I've heard people say "I don't do detail because I'm such and such a type" or "I'm not a people person because I'm such and such a type" and it can prevent people from getting out of their comfort zone and growing.

 

The best psychometrics are used at the next level which is how your style/traits effect your ability to work under pressure.

Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, HankMarvin said:

Its not bullshit

 

Myers–Briggs Type Indicator, The MBTI is based on the conceptual theory proposed by Swiss psychiatrist Carl Jung.

 

That said, I just look at the first letter normally, Introvert or extrovert when I see someone that has it displayed.

 

 

 

 

Sorry, I have to disagree. Jung would be turning in his grave if knew how popular this garbage has become and the degree to which it subverted his archetypes. 

 

And that's precisely what it is - baseless pop psychology which is borderline caricature in its assumptions. Precisely why psychologists loath it - and psychology has become a science since the life of Carl Jung. Neither mother-daughter duo Katharine Cook Briggs and Isabel Briggs Myers were trained scientists. They developed the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator with the intention of helping women entering the workforce find work best suited to their personalities. In order to do this they summoned the influential yet unsupported theories of Carl Jung. Jung hypothesised in his book Psychological Types in 1921 that humans mainly fall into two categories: perceivers and judgers. Perceivers could be further split into people who prefer sensing and those who prefer intuiting, while judgers could be split into thinkers and feelers, resulting in four different types of people. The four types could also be divided into introverts and extroverts. However, Jung was not an empiricist and these classifications were shaped by observation and personal experience rather than being substantiated by evidence and the collection of data . He conceded that these types were not absolute, that we may manifest each to greater and lesser degrees and that since our values are emergent not fixed, this can change over time. That's the point, Jung never meant to categorise people, rather, emphasise and understand differences.

 

By developing the MBTI upon limited binaries it yields an oversimplified view of human personality. But human beings are complex, we don’t conform to neat categories, but rather a spectrum - a continuum.

 

Also, the flattering, vague descriptions for many of the types have huge amounts of overlap whereby many people could fit into several of them. This is known as the Forer effect, and is a technique long used by charlatans and mountebanks peddling all manner of woo and superstitious horseshit such as spiritualism, astrology, fortune telling, and other sorts of pseudoscience to persuade people they have accurate information about them. There is also a strong element of the Barnum effect - again general descriptions that can apply to anyone that people can read themselves into. 

 

I find it absolutely ****ing shocking that in the USA in particular large blue chip organisations are basing recruitment decisions on this junk. Might as well consult a horoscope. 

 

Is there any value associated with this? As harsh a critic as I am about the test, it does at least invite the process of self appraisal/introspection and reflective practice and as such can be a useful starting point so long as anyone applying it is aware of its limitations. 

 

This is a good read...

 

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/cui-bono/201603/are-scores-the-mbti-totally-meaningless

 

Incidentally - INFP. 

 

 

  • Like 4
Link to post
Share on other sites
59 minutes ago, Line-X said:

Sorry, I have to disagree. Jung would be turning in his grave if knew how popular this garbage has become and the degree to which it subverted his archetypes. 

 

And that's precisely what it is - baseless pop psychology which is borderline caricature in its assumptions. Precisely why psychologists loath it - and psychology has become a science since the life of Carl Jung. Neither mother-daughter duo Katharine Cook Briggs and Isabel Briggs Myers were trained scientists. They developed the Myers-Briggs Type Indicator with the intention of helping women entering the workforce find work best suited to their personalities. In order to do this they summoned the influential yet unsupported theories of Carl Jung. Jung hypothesised in his book Psychological Types in 1921 that humans mainly fall into two categories: perceivers and judgers. Perceivers could be further split into people who prefer sensing and those who prefer intuiting, while judgers could be split into thinkers and feelers, resulting in four different types of people. The four types could also be divided into introverts and extroverts. However, Jung was not an empiricist and these classifications were shaped by observation and personal experience rather than being substantiated by evidence and the collection of data . He conceded that these types were not absolute, that we may manifest each to greater and lesser degrees and that since our values are emergent not fixed, this can change over time. That's the point, Jung never meant to categorise people, rather, emphasise and understand differences.

 

By developing the MBTI upon limited binaries it yields an oversimplified view of human personality. But human beings are complex, we don’t conform to neat categories, but rather a spectrum - a continuum.

 

Also, the flattering, vague descriptions for many of the types have huge amounts of overlap whereby many people could fit into several of them. This is known as the Forer effect, and is a technique long used by charlatans and mountebanks peddling all manner of woo and superstitious horseshit such as spiritualism, astrology, fortune telling, and other sorts of pseudoscience to persuade people they have accurate information about them. There is also a strong element of the Barnum effect - again general descriptions that can apply to anyone that people can read themselves into. 

 

I find it absolutely ****ing shocking that in the USA in particular large blue chip organisations are basing recruitment decisions on this junk. Might as well consult a horoscope. 

 

Is there any value associated with this? As harsh a critic as I am about the test, it does at least invite the process of self appraisal/introspection and reflective practice and as such can be a useful starting point so long as anyone applying it is aware of its limitations. 

 

This is a good read...

 

https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/cui-bono/201603/are-scores-the-mbti-totally-meaningless

 

Incidentally - INFP. 

 

 

You sound like you know what you're talking about, I was just reading from here.

 

 

The original versions of the MBTI were constructed by two Americans, Katharine Cook Briggs and her daughter Isabel Briggs Myers.[15] The MBTI is based on the conceptual theory proposed by Swiss psychiatrist Carl Jung,[16] who had speculated that people experience the world using four principal psychological functions – sensation, intuition, feeling, and thinking – and that one of these four functions is dominant for a person most of the time.[17] The four categories are Introversion/Extraversion, Sensing/Intuition, Thinking/Feeling, Judging/Perceiving. Each person is said to have one preferred quality from each category, producing 16 unique types.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers–Briggs_Type_Indicator#:~:text=The MBTI is based on,person most of the time.

 

 

 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Did it got architect https://www.16personalities.com/profiles/1205d6824c197.

I don't like these sorts of tests in general though trying to put everyone into boxes doesn't work because essentially everyone is different. Someone could switch personality types based on mood, scenario and/or development

Edited by Fightforever
Link to post
Share on other sites
8 hours ago, Nalis said:

Havent clicked the link but it sounds like Myers-Briggs from what you are saying.

 

Mine was ESTP from memory though that was about 12 years ago.

 

I think the questions are up to interpretation in these type of things so depends on the context in which they are answered. For example, do you answer an introvert / extrovert question as if you are with your mates, or in work, or in public? They are three very different scenarios for the same question.

If it is Myer Briggs.... they were proven to be completely fake and pointless some years ago. https://www.vox.com/2014/7/15/5881947/myers-briggs-personality-test-meaningless

I did several back in the 90s-00s coz they were the big thing.. but utter bullsh*t

ENTP... Cancer  lol  

Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

×
×
  • Create New...