Ric Flair Posted 5 January 2021 Share Posted 5 January 2021 13 minutes ago, lcfc sheff said: Is he currently injured or is he trying to force a move? Hasn’t played for us for ages has he? This is what baffles me. I get the stand off on not giving him first team action, but to not play him in the U23's at every opportunity is criminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfc sheff Posted 5 January 2021 Share Posted 5 January 2021 34 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: This is what baffles me. I get the stand off on not giving him first team action, but to not play him in the U23's at every opportunity is criminal. The silence would almost certainly mean there’s a stand off but seems odd to me he wants to leave after a considerable time at the club and a club that has just built probably the current best training ground you can have?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SO1 Posted 5 January 2021 Share Posted 5 January 2021 Sounds like he's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 5 January 2021 Share Posted 5 January 2021 Barcelona ahahahahahaha, come on now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 5 January 2021 Share Posted 5 January 2021 The fact he wasn’t involved in the Ukraine tells me you won’t be seeing this fella anywhere near the first team ....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxxed Posted 5 January 2021 Share Posted 5 January 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ric Flair said: This is what baffles me. I get the stand off on not giving him first team action, but to not play him in the U23's at every opportunity is criminal. Yeah, also what we criticised sheff wed for regarding hirst. Can you exclude a player for a contract bust up? Doesn’t fit well at all. Aren’t Arsenal excluding Ozil for a bust up / talking about the Uyghurs and pissing off Chinese fans? Yet excluding a player while he’s trying to make his career is horrific. But we honestly don’t know why he’s being excluded. Or all the details. Edited 5 January 2021 by Foxxed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted 5 January 2021 Share Posted 5 January 2021 Someone message Ian Stringer on twitter to ask Brendan about Tavares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themightyfin Posted 5 January 2021 Share Posted 5 January 2021 2 hours ago, Ric Flair said: This is what baffles me. I get the stand off on not giving him first team action, but to not play him in the U23's at every opportunity is criminal. He dint want to play in the U23 Ric. Thats where the problem lies. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted 5 January 2021 Share Posted 5 January 2021 Maybe it's the Ecuadorian Barcelona. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 5 January 2021 Share Posted 5 January 2021 1 minute ago, themightyfin said: He dint want to play in the U23 Ric. Thats where the problem lies. So he's refusing to play? I thought he was just unimpressed he's not playing first team football whether that be here or ideally on loan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Posted 5 January 2021 Share Posted 5 January 2021 6 minutes ago, themightyfin said: He dint want to play in the U23 Ric. Thats where the problem lies. Interesting. So wanted to be in around the first team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcfc sheff Posted 5 January 2021 Share Posted 5 January 2021 7 minutes ago, themightyfin said: He dint want to play in the U23 Ric. Thats where the problem lies. Tbh he did look like a man playing a boys game but that does seem a bit too quick for him to start making those demands 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue and white Posted 5 January 2021 Share Posted 5 January 2021 6 minutes ago, lcfc sheff said: Tbh he did look like a man playing a boys game but that does seem a bit too quick for him to start making those demands You can hardly blame him, probably can see what's coming 3+ years stuck with Beaglehole before a loan move or first team look in. Chilwell and Barnes forced loan moves early to avoid that on so it makes sense to try and do the same. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themightyfin Posted 5 January 2021 Share Posted 5 January 2021 1 minute ago, Ric Flair said: So he's refusing to play? I thought he was just unimpressed he's not playing first team football whether that be here or ideally on loan? Either wants first team football with us or wanted a loan to play fullest team football at championship level or higher. Nobody came in for him hence the standoff between him and the club. Was integrated back into the u23 for a couple of games but then expected to be pushed up. It never happened so we are where we are with him. Highly doubt he will be here beyond this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AjcW Posted 5 January 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 5 January 2021 Imagine acting like that when we've just moved into the facilities we have. He's 19 ffs, what does he think the rush is? Does he not just look at Barnes and think... okay, i'll be patient, i'll get there. Clearly got terrible advisers, personally doesn't sound like the sort of character we'd want around, talent or no talent. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Steve Earle Posted 5 January 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 5 January 2021 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Shane said: Someone message Ian Stringer on twitter to ask Brendan about Tavares Last one Brendan, and I have to ask this as some fans, one in particular 😉, have a very high regard for Sidney Tavares from the Academy, any chance we’ll see him in the squad at Stoke? Well Ian, like I say, I don’t like to get into specifics about individuals and their contracts... So, Brendan, is there a contractual stand off between the club and Tavares, as the rumours, if you will, have it? Well Ian, I’ve just answered that one! OK Brendan, fair enough. So will he be in the squad at Stoke? Well Ian, only Ricardo is touch and go for the game, otherwise everyone’s available for selection, like I said, and Sidney comes into that category... You understand I’m sure that it’s my job Brendan, to press you on these things? Not at all Ian, no problem, like I say... rinse & repeat Edited 5 January 2021 by Steve Earle Typo 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collymore Posted 5 January 2021 Share Posted 5 January 2021 Well Ian, Sidnei is an outstanding technician with great character but he'll never play for the club again after the way he looked at Kolo that time... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fox seen in Norwich Posted 5 January 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 5 January 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Steve Earle said: Last one Brendan, and I have to ask this as some fans, one in particular 😉, have a very high regard for Sidney Tavares from the Academy, any chance we’ll see him in the squad at Stoke? Well Ian, like I say, I don’t like to get into specifics about individuals and their contacts... So, Brendan, is there a contractual stand off between the club and Tavares, as the rumours, if you will, have it? Well Ian, I’ve just answered that one! OK Brendan, fair enough. So will he be in the squad at Stoke? Well Ian, only Ricardo is touch and go for the game, otherwise everyone’s available for selection, like I said, and Sidney comes into that category... You understand I’m sure that it’s my job Brendan, to press you on these things? Not at all Ian, no problem, like I say... rinse & repeat Did everyone else read brendans lines in an Irish accent? Edited 5 January 2021 by Fox seen in Norwich 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 5 January 2021 Share Posted 5 January 2021 BR is well know for developing players, if the boy was good enough he would have been training with the first team or a Championship club would have snap him up on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxxed Posted 5 January 2021 Share Posted 5 January 2021 (edited) So he won’t play in the u23s because he wants to be in the first team? This wouldn’t be a problem if Bren was letting academy players get a few minutes. (I read he likes a smaller training group so they won’t train with the team either) On the other hand, you can’t cave in to someone downing tools to get what they want. The whole first team training and academy player minutes needs to be reformed. But I doubt the club will let Tav force Bren’s hand: not a good precedent. edit: @coolhandfox since I’ve reached my posting limit The loan the odd bit for me. He does look one of the better academy prospects and a Portuguese u21international. Could we have done more to get him a loan? I honestly don’t think it’s as easy as we think to get a loan. We assume the Championship club are begging to borrow a player for six months. Edited 5 January 2021 by Foxxed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Posted 5 January 2021 Share Posted 5 January 2021 46 minutes ago, AjcW said: Imagine acting like that when we've just moved into the facilities we have. He's 19 ffs, what does he think the rush is? Does he not just look at Barnes and think... okay, i'll be patient, i'll get there. Clearly got terrible advisers, personally doesn't sound like the sort of character we'd want around, talent or no talent. ....Or he could be looking at KDH whose out on loan at 22 despite being clearly talented and thinking "no thanks"... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grebfromgrebland Posted 5 January 2021 Share Posted 5 January 2021 Maybe our facilities aren't that big a draw. If he goes that 3 going in the last few months that we wanted to keep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AjcW Posted 5 January 2021 Share Posted 5 January 2021 5 minutes ago, Foxy_Bear said: ....Or he could be looking at KDH whose out on loan at 22 despite being clearly talented and thinking "no thanks"... Still though... if he breaks through next season he'd still only just be 23. Just all a bit short termist from young players now because they're advised badly. You'd think being at a club where the main man didn't 'make it' until he was late twenties would slow some of them down a bit! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM1968 Posted 5 January 2021 Share Posted 5 January 2021 6 hours ago, don_danbury said: demarai gray double I have a cunning plan....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moore_94 Posted 5 January 2021 Share Posted 5 January 2021 25 minutes ago, Foxxed said: This wouldn’t be a problem if Bren was letting academy players get a few minutes. (I read he likes a smaller training group so they won’t train with the team either) This season there has been quite a few youth players who have and probably still are training with the 1st team Muskwe, Leshebala, Suengchittawon, Fitzhugh, Godsmark-Ford, Flynn, Stolarczyk, Nelson, and probably others that haven't been in the released training photos 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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