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This summer for me just get a cheap young centre back in who could cover some games. Prioritise a winger and striker hope we hit the nail on the head with those and go in for a centre back in January if we have the cash if not then next summer.

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some chat that Edouard is now looking at west ham ahead of us.  pretty sure thats just talking the fee and package up. however, west ham could call him their no 1 striker and allow Antonio to rest plenty (assuming they get Europa league).  he will not see that he starts most games here and he could end up third place if vards recovers his form and kel remains at his current level. 

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12 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

some chat that Edouard is now looking at west ham ahead of us.  pretty sure thats just talking the fee and package up. however, west ham could call him their no 1 striker and allow Antonio to rest plenty (assuming they get Europa league).  he will not see that he starts most games here and he could end up third place if vards recovers his form and kel remains at his current level. 

If we have Vardy, Barnes, Ihanacho and Edouard , two out of four start on the bench. Flexibility and rotation will be the answer. Perez can only be considered an AM from then on with occasional deputising for Maddison.

 

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1 hour ago, Foxy_Bear said:

Really? That's a strange one. Sign him for £21m, immediately loan him out and sell him for £25m. 

 

I don't understand that at all. Even with the financial troubles in the French league, surely that means capitalising even more on valuable assets.

Yep we can get Claude back on the cheap to run the under 23's.

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54 minutes ago, An Sionnach said:

If we have Vardy, Barnes, Ihanacho and Edouard , two out of four start on the bench. Flexibility and rotation will be the answer. Perez can only be considered an AM from then on with occasional deputising for Maddison.

 

Or we could perhaps sell him along with Choudhury and buy one decent player?

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1 hour ago, enmac said:

Ozil always seemed to play great against City. He was certainly better than Maddison will ever be. Similar positions. Not meant to be a criticism of Maddison. Just comparing a very good player with a world class one. Ozil would have been great with peak Vardy IMO.

Baring in mind Ozil played for Arsenal during his peak years he averaged a PL goal every 5.57 games as opposed to Maddison 4.3 games. He assisted on average every 3.1 games compared to Maddison 5.35 games and overall a goal and assist for Ozil every 2.02 games compared to Maddison 2.39 games. 

 

So baring in mind one was word class in his peak years and Maddison will never ever get there, he already scores at a better rate than Ozil did in the PL and overall he only has to continue his progression and he'll smash Ozil's stats to pieces. 

 

Ozil wasn't one for defensive stats either so arguably from a team ethic point of view Maddison will be more of a benefit than Ozil ever was.

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2 hours ago, LestaLad said:

Was linked in the telegraph as well recently, Really hope this happens.

Can't see us buying a CB for 25m unless Soyuncu leaves for big numbers.

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Linked with Tommaso Pobega, Italy U20, on loan at Spezia from AC Milan, Spezia are 14th in Serie A, 3 goals and 2 assists in 16 games as a centre mid
 

http://sportwitness.co.uk/leicester-city-pressing-midfielder-transfer-pursuit-serious-player-concrete-chances-moving/
 

Leicester City ‘in pressing’ for midfielder transfer – Pursuit is ‘serious’, player has ‘concrete’ chances of moving

 

Currently loaned at Spezia from Milan, Tommaso Pobega is attracting attention from England with his performances.
 

That’s according to TuttoMercatoWeb, who claim Leicester City, currently managed by Brendan Rodgers, are ‘in pressing’ for the young midfielder.

 

Arriving in 2013 from US Triestina’s youth, the 21-year-old has slowly but surely climbed the ranks at San Siro, although he has yet to make a first-team appearance for the club.

 

First sent on loan to Ternana and Pordenone before his move to Spezia, Pobega is also an Italy U20 international, with five caps to his name and two goals.

 

Aside from all that, he may never feature for Milan under Stefano Pioli, as TuttoMercatoWeb explain the Serie A side ‘value a sale’ and ‘the possibility of the player going abroad is concrete’.

 

Other than Leicester, who are described as ‘serious’ in their pursuit, Eintracht Frankfurt are also after him, causing a bit of competition for the Premier League side.

 

One to keep an eye on.

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40 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Baring in mind Ozil played for Arsenal during his peak years he averaged a PL goal every 5.57 games as opposed to Maddison 4.3 games. He assisted on average every 3.1 games compared to Maddison 5.35 games and overall a goal and assist for Ozil every 2.02 games compared to Maddison 2.39 games. 

 

So baring in mind one was word class in his peak years and Maddison will never ever get there, he already scores at a better rate than Ozil did in the PL and overall he only has to continue his progression and he'll smash Ozil's stats to pieces. 

 

Ozil wasn't one for defensive stats either so arguably from a team ethic point of view Maddison will be more of a benefit than Ozil ever was.

But who was playing up front for Arsenal when Ozil was at his peak? Can't remember, but no one with Vardy's pace,surely. I think he would have been ideal for Vardy. Probably why Wenger wanted to sign him. My point is that his assists would have been far higher playing behind Vards IMO. 

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52 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Baring in mind Ozil played for Arsenal during his peak years he averaged a PL goal every 5.57 games as opposed to Maddison 4.3 games. He assisted on average every 3.1 games compared to Maddison 5.35 games and overall a goal and assist for Ozil every 2.02 games compared to Maddison 2.39 games. 

 

So baring in mind one was word class in his peak years and Maddison will never ever get there, he already scores at a better rate than Ozil did in the PL and overall he only has to continue his progression and he'll smash Ozil's stats to pieces. 

 

Ozil wasn't one for defensive stats either so arguably from a team ethic point of view Maddison will be more of a benefit than Ozil ever was.

Ozil is behind only Messi, Ronaldo and Suarez in terms of number of assists. In fact he's got more assists than anyone 0.39/game since the year 2000. Ahead of Xavi and Iniesta on this metric is some going. 

 

https://sportmob.com/en/article/899433-players-with-the-most-assists-in-football-history

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12 minutes ago, enmac said:

Ozil is behind only Messi, Ronaldo and Suarez in terms of number of assists. In fact he's got more assists than anyone 0.39/game since the year 2000. Ahead of Xavi and Iniesta on this metric is some going. 

 

https://sportmob.com/en/article/899433-players-with-the-most-assists-in-football-history

His PL stats aren't that impressive though which was my point, he wasn't particularly suited to the PL. He came to Arsenal armed as one of the most creative players in the world and yet he saw his undoubted ability curtailed somewhat, hence the stats I quoted. He also had very little work ethic so if the goals and assists dry up then there's a real problem.

 

To answer your other post, the players he had around him at Arsenal were hardly bums. He has Giroud, Sanchez, Aubemeyang, Lacazette etc.

 

So baring in mind you claim he was world class and Maddison won't ever reach those heights, his PL stats suggest he is already not far off him.

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Deeg67 said:

Only on FT could the idea that Maddison is on a level worth Ozil be floated and taken seriously.

Ozil was very mediocre in the Prem, many top class players have struggled over here. 

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Maddison is a top Premier league player who'd get in most teams but I can't see him ever playing for Real Madrid, which is my very crude definition of world class. Barcelona also fits. 

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2 hours ago, st albans fox said:

some chat that Edouard is now looking at west ham ahead of us.  pretty sure thats just talking the fee and package up. however, west ham could call him their no 1 striker and allow Antonio to rest plenty (assuming they get Europa league).  he will not see that he starts most games here and he could end up third place if vards recovers his form and kel remains at his current level. 

Depends on if he wants champions league or Europa League.

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Even with Wes, Fuchs and probably Benkovic leaving at the end of this season I don't see us going for another CB, unless they're young and from a lower league. With our established 3, we have Amartey who's shown he's decent enough as a back up and although it's not ideal, Wilf filling in if we absolutely must works too. I reckon Brendan's made it fairly clear that a striker, a winger and a CM much further on in our list of priorities. 

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15 minutes ago, enmac said:

Maddison is a top Premier league player who'd get in most teams but I can't see him ever playing for Real Madrid, which is my very crude definition of world class. Barcelona also fits. 

All pretty irrelevant if you ain't suited to the PL though is it not? Maddison will never play for Real or Barca but my argument was that if Yazici is the spit of Ozil then he's better served giving the PL a miss because he would possibly struggle. 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, HeskeyForever said:

Even with Wes, Fuchs and probably Benkovic leaving at the end of this season I don't see us going for another CB, unless they're young and from a lower league. With our established 3, we have Amartey who's shown he's decent enough as a back up and although it's not ideal, Wilf filling in if we absolutely must works too. I reckon Brendan's made it fairly clear that a striker, a winger and a CM much further on in our list of priorities. 

We actually have a young CB playing in a lower league- Josh Knight.

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