StanSP 30,827 Posted 1 March Report Share Posted 1 March I don't follow horse racing that much but isn't Gordon Elliott massive in the training world?! His statement is quite frankly embarrassing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
goose2010 2,273 Posted 1 March Report Share Posted 1 March 1 hour ago, StanSP said: I don't follow horse racing that much but isn't Gordon Elliott massive in the training world?! His statement is quite frankly embarrassing. yeah one of the biggest in Ireland. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
David Guiza 2,089 Posted 1 March Report Share Posted 1 March Can't imagine he'll be kicked out long term thanks to the nature of the sport. A would imagine that a minor betting scandal would result in a far greater punishment than literally sitting on a dead horse. My only ever block on Twitter was by Mickey Quinn after I received a junk email about co-owning a horse with him and Alan Brazil; this in spite of the fact that he was banned for 18 months for serious neglect of multiple horses. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Innovindil 3,035 Posted 1 March Report Share Posted 1 March Disgusting photo deserving of a lifetime ban from the sport. These horses give everything, sometimes even their lives to the entertainment of millions worldwide, the very least they deserve is to be treated with respect. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alf Bentley 11,260 Posted 1 March Report Share Posted 1 March I simply don't believe his story about unthinkingly sitting on the dead horse to take a phone call. He does seem to have a phone to his ear but, seriously, would you not notice what you were sitting on? In particular, would you unthinkingly sit astride a dead horse to take a phone call?! Seems like laughable bollocks to me, Mr. Elliott. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stuntman_Mike 1,505 Posted 1 March Report Share Posted 1 March The pure arrogance of the guy is unbelievable. To do what he did is one thing, but to make that kind of statement is beyond words. He might as well come out and say he was taking the piss and having a laugh. But to openly lie with this kind of proof just makes him look an even bigger fool. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lcfc82 186 Posted 1 March Report Share Posted 1 March The statement he’s given is a load of bollocks. It’s clearly a staged photo. A lifetime ban would send out the right message but doubt he will get one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Brizzle Fox 276 Posted 1 March Report Share Posted 1 March I believe that when this first surfaced his people were trying to claim it was a photoshop, which makes it even worse (if that's possible). Great racehorse trainer but hideous human being. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TJB-fox 2,818 Posted 1 March Report Share Posted 1 March Yep Gordon has really fvcked it here. He’s somewhat protected because he’s not based in England. I’d imagine if it was a small English based NH trainer then they’d have already had their license revoked and all horses banned from the festival. Gigginstown have said they’ll stand by him as expected (O’Leary does what he wants) but they stopped majorly funding their breeding programme recently so although it’s a positive it won’t help him that much in the long run. Cheveley Park are the one to keep hold of due to their expansive breeding programme but can’t imagine they’ll stick with him now. I think his statement was meant to come across as genuine and apologetic rather than run away from the problem but to be honest it’s made him look even worse. In my opinion he’ll receive an almighty fine and maybe a suspended sentence. They’ll want the best horses running at the festival. Then I think in due course as his sponsors and owners distance themselves from the stable he’ll really struggle. Such a shame because he’s an unreal trainer and although comes across arrogant does a lot to please the owners and horses involved. Used to have 2 horses with him in a small syndicate a few years ago and everything I saw was fantastic. But, that photo is disgraceful and action needs to happen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mark_w 5,382 Posted 1 March Report Share Posted 1 March 3 hours ago, Lcfc82 said: The statement he’s given is a load of bollocks. It’s clearly a staged photo. A lifetime ban would send out the right message but doubt he will get one. Yeah don't expect a strong moral message from the people behind an entirely immoral 'sport'. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TJB-fox 2,818 Posted 1 March Report Share Posted 1 March 3 hours ago, Mark_w said: Yeah don't expect a strong moral message from the people behind an entirely immoral 'sport'. Not going to get in a debate over it but this statement is not true whatsoever. Anyway, Elliott’s horses banned from running in Britain until the photo is fully investigated etc etc. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot 1,393 Posted 2 March Report Share Posted 2 March (edited) Oh dear, in a sport that tried so hard to show how far it's come since years gone by its a shame this twit, and an extremely successful and high profile one at that, has to go and do something so stupid. Edited 2 March by Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot Swear Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot 1,393 Posted 2 March Report Share Posted 2 March As TJB alluded to, Cheveley Park have removed all their horses, that's a bitter blow and works as a good form of self regulation, take it out the authorities hands almost, he'll be nowhere near as potent without them. Another video cropped up of a jockey being disrespectful to a deceased animal, its beggars belief, that's his career over and good riddance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AKCJ 15,468 Posted 2 March Report Share Posted 2 March Jesus, just seen his statement. What an absolute bellend. Surely he didn't think people would believe that? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Osavo 290 Posted 2 March Report Share Posted 2 March 17 minutes ago, AKCJ said: Jesus, just seen his statement. What an absolute bellend. Surely he didn't think people would believe that? Pathetic, screamed of arrogance tbh. I think he genuinely thought he'd get away with it because of his standing in the sport. Cheveley moving on is huge, I imagine other owners will begin to follow suit now too, especially as they'll want their horses running at Cheltenham. As others have said this likely regulates itself, particularly with Gigginstown winding down operations. O'Leary already thrown his toys out the pram I see, refusing to run Tiger Roll in the national due to his weight, despite the fact the weights were announced weeks ago. Do feel sorry for the stable staff in all this. Most will have done nothing wrong and yet will be heavily punished due to the actions of a moron. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TJB-fox 2,818 Posted 2 March Report Share Posted 2 March 41 minutes ago, Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot said: As TJB alluded to, Cheveley Park have removed all their horses, that's a bitter blow and works as a good form of self regulation, take it out the authorities hands almost, he'll be nowhere near as potent without them. Another video cropped up of a jockey being disrespectful to a deceased animal, its beggars belief, that's his career over and good riddance. Rob James, seriously talented amateur jockey. No idea what he was playing at. Met him a few years ago after he’d ridden out for a friend and he came across incredibly well. The video of him is disgraceful though and should be banned from the sport for a lengthy period of time. Whats your thoughts on the likes of envoi and Sir Gerhard moving to Mullins and HDB? Crazy news really isn’t it! Really shakes up this year’s festival Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TJB-fox 2,818 Posted 2 March Report Share Posted 2 March 2 minutes ago, Osavo said: Pathetic, screamed of arrogance tbh. I think he genuinely thought he'd get away with it because of his standing in the sport. Cheveley moving on is huge, I imagine other owners will begin to follow suit now too, especially as they'll want their horses running at Cheltenham. As others have said this likely regulates itself, particularly with Gigginstown winding down operations. O'Leary already thrown his toys out the pram I see, refusing to run Tiger Roll in the national due to his weight, despite the fact the weights were announced weeks ago. Do feel sorry for the stable staff in all this. Most will have done nothing wrong and yet will be heavily punished due to the actions of a moron. Completely agree. The stable staff will be gutted. I think this is Gordon done now to be honest. Re the national, the Elliott team had been planning to pull Tiger for a while and set up a little plan with the Percy. Not sure what will happen now Elliott is fvcked but keep your eyes peeled. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stuntman_Mike 1,505 Posted 2 March Report Share Posted 2 March https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/horse-racing/56250379 An amateur jockey has apologised for something similar now. At least his is more sincere, even if it is scripted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot 1,393 Posted 2 March Report Share Posted 2 March 55 minutes ago, TJB-fox said: Rob James, seriously talented amateur jockey. No idea what he was playing at. Met him a few years ago after he’d ridden out for a friend and he came across incredibly well. The video of him is disgraceful though and should be banned from the sport for a lengthy period of time. Whats your thoughts on the likes of envoi and Sir Gerhard moving to Mullins and HDB? Crazy news really isn’t it! Really shakes up this year’s festival We're talking about some of the best NH trainers in the game, could be the change of scenery even perks the horses up a bit, wouldn't put me off if I fancied them, that's for sure. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TJB-fox 2,818 Posted 2 March Report Share Posted 2 March 12 minutes ago, Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot said: We're talking about some of the best NH trainers in the game, could be the change of scenery even perks the horses up a bit, wouldn't put me off if I fancied them, that's for sure. Yep true. Would imagine Jack Kennedy will keep the rides Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Blue ROI 1,970 Posted 2 March Report Share Posted 2 March Has Paddy Power tweeted anything about this? Normally they are always right smart arses during Premier League games and the like. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tylesta 634 Posted 2 March Report Share Posted 2 March He would of have to really streched over to sit like he is, if I was going to sit on something I would of sat like that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TJB-fox 2,818 Posted 2 March Report Share Posted 2 March 12 minutes ago, Blue ROI said: Has Paddy Power tweeted anything about this? Normally they are always right smart arses during Premier League games and the like. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bert 6,975 Posted 2 March Report Share Posted 2 March 5 hours ago, TJB-fox said: Rob James, seriously talented amateur jockey. No idea what he was playing at. Met him a few years ago after he’d ridden out for a friend and he came across incredibly well. The video of him is disgraceful though and should be banned from the sport for a lengthy period of time. Whats your thoughts on the likes of envoi and Sir Gerhard moving to Mullins and HDB? Crazy news really isn’t it! Really shakes up this year’s festival I’ll tell you something, if they win then their true class prevails. Changing yards two weeks before a festival isn’t ideal. New routines, diets etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Guvnor 1,158 Posted 3 March Report Share Posted 3 March What on earth must he have been thinking. Reputations take a lifetime to make and a second to break. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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