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6 minutes ago, UniFox21 said:

If they've signed a contract as suggested by Perez, surely that goes beyond intent? 

Barca, Real and June will fight tooth and nail for this, as they are financially fcked. They NEED this.

 

It is the devil or deep blue sea for those three

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1 minute ago, Les-TA-Jon said:

That's what I'm puzzled by - why didnt do this is the summer and more softly?

It was the day before they were supposed to sign up on the new CL format. 

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Just now, Paninistickers said:

Barca, Real and June will fight tooth and nail for this, as they are financially fcked. They NEED this.

 

It is the devil or deep blue sea for those three

Hope April and May don't get involved too ;)

 

But you're right, the 3 are financially buggered and they need this to just stay up there

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Can’t believe I’m saying this but fair deal to the ‘French’ (!) and German clubs for simply refusing to be included.  Bayern Munich is a massive and highly respected European club, so how could the ESL even be credible without them? .... oh sorry; yes, just toss the money loving ‘forget the game’ Arsenal owner into it and he’ll guarantee their inclusion ... or even worse ‘this’ll be our year .... oh bollocks!’ Tottenham into the mixer instead! .... the awful Americanisation of European football is seriously threatening the very fabric of it with the ESL merely breaking the clubs into franchised assets and sod the fans.

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14 minutes ago, ttfn said:

The most important thing is that people do not give up and do not forget. The Guardian live article earlier made the very salient point that the Glazers have ridden out similar controversies before (where are those green and gold scarves now?) because people ran out of interest/energy.

 

We are too passive as fans in this country. We need to come together and act as a unit to put pressure on the authorities and the clubs in question where we can. We need to stand not only with our club but with supporters of other clubs.

British people (English in particular) are not very good at protest or revolution. We’re ultimately very passive as people, which is why the country is currently being done over by crooks with no recourse. 
 

But you’re absolutely right: fans DO have the final say, as long as we have the resolve to vote with our feet.

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Jurgen Klopp's entire career has been founded on synergy with the fans.

 

This is his moment to make a real long term difference to LFC by leading the players and fans against this.

 

He has their unwaivering support and simply must speak out in the strongest possible terms.

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Just now, Finnaldo said:


No way to verify this yet but if it’s true then I’m a bit concerned clubs will just be welcomed back in now. If you joined then you should expect point deductions and heavy fines. As it’s been said before, light-to-no punishment and there’s nothing stopping this happening again 

Always a possibility, and the other 14 will be happy enough financially to see the 6 return (from the brink) it we are honest

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Pep not giving away much here but looks and sounds very uncomfortable with the idea of it all. 
 

The quote ‘a competition without promotion, is not a sport’ is very telling regarding his feelings towards it. 

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Just now, Saxondale said:

British people (English in particular) are not very good at protest or revolution. We’re ultimately very passive as people, which is why the country is currently being done over by crooks with no recourse. 
 

But you’re absolutely right: fans DO have the final say, as long as we have the resolve to vote with our feet.

Yes this is quite typical of England when people get suddenly very outraged at something that is indicative of a wider problem that was mostly ignored for years.

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12 minutes ago, Babylon said:

If only they were capable of creating new laws. 

You can't create a law that only apply to certain people. You can't make it illegal for Man U to stage football matches without making it illegal for everyone else. This isn't China, the govt can't act in arbitrary ways. 

 

Too much of this debate is based on wishful thinking. These billionaires wouldn't go into this without checking out all the legal possibilities. 

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23 minutes ago, RowlattsFox said:

It's a difficult one for players because if it all went through there would be some happy to take the huge contract to play for the best clubs. Regardless of all the negatives. 

Then if they choose not too the money left in domestic football could be a lot less than they are used too. 

 

It's not a difficult one at all. They presumably are all football fans, they should be against it. And unlike actual fans they have the very real power to kill it by refusing to participate. Yeah theyd all lose out on wages but every single one of the rich sixs first team squad are millionaires several times over. There is no excuse other than a similar greed to that of the owners.

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Just now, Paninistickers said:

We need the 6 back. To hell with the owners, but these 6 are absolutely integral culturally to English football and financially too. 

 

The owners can all hang. 

 

But don't throw the baby out  with the bathwater 


A club without ownership how will that work doesn’t that imply new ownership? Can the fans rally around to buy the clubs involved? They have made their bed cheerio 

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Can we start a thread that is dedicated to broadcasting any calls to action?
 

E.g link petitions, contact points for MP, contact points for the club etc

 

It feels like we need to maintain the momentum and pressure - and everything helps. 

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Just now, Webbo said:

You can't create a law that only apply to certain people. You can't make it illegal for Man U to stage football matches without making it illegal for everyone else. This isn't China, the govt can't act in arbitrary ways. 

 

Too much of this debate is based on wishful thinking. These billionaires wouldn't go into this without checking out all the legal possibilities. 

But you can hold firm on the rule of unlicensed leagues cannot have games played in the UK? They simply need to tighten regs. around that, and don't grant the super league a license. 

Nothing about stopping a specific team. 

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3 minutes ago, sheffield_fox said:

Jurgen Klopp's entire career has been founded on synergy with the fans.

 

This is his moment to make a real long term difference to LFC by leading the players and fans against this.

 

He has their unwaivering support and simply must speak out in the strongest possible terms.

 

Just now, Leeds Fox said:

Pep not giving away much here but looks and sounds very uncomfortable with the idea of it all. 
 

The quote ‘a competition without promotion, is not a sport’ is very telling regarding his feelings towards it. 

I think the most diplomatic way these managers involved can handle this is to say something along the lines of “the club can do what it wants but I won’t be involved.”

 

The clubs’ owners need to get the message that they can’t just transplant their current management and players into the new competition. If they’re determined to do it, they’ll need to find willing participants - which is going to be next to impossible, given the strength of the backlash.

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5 minutes ago, Saxondale said:

British people (English in particular) are not very good at protest or revolution. We’re ultimately very passive as people, which is why the country is currently being done over by crooks with no recourse. 
 

But you’re absolutely right: fans DO have the final say, as long as we have the resolve to vote with our feet.

That's the thing, everyone's making the right noises at the moment, even the fanbases of the club's involved, but I think their gambit (which, unfortunately is probably right) is that in a few years time, when it's Liverpool vs Barcelona and the Reds score a last minute winner, there'll be many a scouser quietly, or overtly, celebrating - despite what opposition they might be making clear right now...

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