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The "do they mean us?" thread

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13 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

Quite unbelievable attitude towards us in this weekend's Guardian preview:

 

9) Shakespeare now needs results to back up performances

Considering the speed with which a sizable proportion of Leicester City fans turned on Claudio Ranieri – who masterminded the most unlikely Premier League title win of all time on their behalf – it can’t be too long before the man who replaced him incurs their wrath. Craig Shakespeare’s side have won and drawn one of their opening six matches and have conceded more goals than 17 other teams in the top flight. It could legitimately be argued that Leicester have not played particularly badly against particularly strong opposition in defeat this season, but many of the fans who wanted Claudio Ranieri gone justified their impatience by pointing out that football is a results-based business and Premier League survival is all important. Results so far this season have been largely poor and the same logic must dictate that another bad one against Bournemouth, one of only three teams below Leicester in the table, may well prompt unrest among the more entitled in the club’s fan base. BG

 

 

Well sorry for not wanting to be relegated 

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39 minutes ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

It's that Barry Twathead again. Backed us to go down last season 

And then has a whinge that we did something about it lol

 

The state of sports journalists these days....  9/10 are either a clown, blinded by an agenda, or both.

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3 hours ago, urban.spaceman said:

Quite unbelievable attitude towards us in this weekend's Guardian preview:

 

9) Shakespeare now needs results to back up performances

Considering the speed with which a sizable proportion of Leicester City fans turned on Claudio Ranieri – who masterminded the most unlikely Premier League title win of all time on their behalf – it can’t be too long before the man who replaced him incurs their wrath. Craig Shakespeare’s side have won and drawn one of their opening six matches and have conceded more goals than 17 other teams in the top flight. It could legitimately be argued that Leicester have not played particularly badly against particularly strong opposition in defeat this season, but many of the fans who wanted Claudio Ranieri gone justified their impatience by pointing out that football is a results-based business and Premier League survival is all important. Results so far this season have been largely poor and the same logic must dictate that another bad one against Bournemouth, one of only three teams below Leicester in the table, may well prompt unrest among the more entitled in the club’s fan base. BG

 

 

 

BG = Barry Glendenning.

 

Hey Barry, you dont have to be a cvnt for all your life. Nuance is obviously not your strongest point, but try and exercise that brain of yours for longer than 10 seconds.

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4 hours ago, urban.spaceman said:

Quite unbelievable attitude towards us in this weekend's Guardian preview:

 

9) Shakespeare now needs results to back up performances

Considering the speed with which a sizable proportion of Leicester City fans turned on Claudio Ranieri – who masterminded the most unlikely Premier League title win of all time on their behalf – it can’t be too long before the man who replaced him incurs their wrath. Craig Shakespeare’s side have won and drawn one of their opening six matches and have conceded more goals than 17 other teams in the top flight. It could legitimately be argued that Leicester have not played particularly badly against particularly strong opposition in defeat this season, but many of the fans who wanted Claudio Ranieri gone justified their impatience by pointing out that football is a results-based business and Premier League survival is all important. Results so far this season have been largely poor and the same logic must dictate that another bad one against Bournemouth, one of only three teams below Leicester in the table, may well prompt unrest among the more entitled in the club’s fan base. BG

 

 

This bloke was quoted as saying Ranieri should be allowed to do what he wants with the club forever. His opinion on Leicester is as valid as mine in the railway service of Tajikistan.

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1 minute ago, Dan LCFC said:

This bloke was quoted as saying Ranieri should be allowed to do what he wants with the club forever. His opinion on Leicester is as valid as mine in the railway service of Tajikistan.

He also will regularly admit on Talksport that he doesn't actually watch many games. Absolute clown.

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8 hours ago, urban.spaceman said:

Quite unbelievable attitude towards us in this weekend's Guardian preview:

 

9) Shakespeare now needs results to back up performances

Considering the speed with which a sizable proportion of Leicester City fans turned on Claudio Ranieri – who masterminded the most unlikely Premier League title win of all time on their behalf – it can’t be too long before the man who replaced him incurs their wrath. Craig Shakespeare’s side have won and drawn one of their opening six matches and have conceded more goals than 17 other teams in the top flight. It could legitimately be argued that Leicester have not played particularly badly against particularly strong opposition in defeat this season, but many of the fans who wanted Claudio Ranieri gone justified their impatience by pointing out that football is a results-based business and Premier League survival is all important. Results so far this season have been largely poor and the same logic must dictate that another bad one against Bournemouth, one of only three teams below Leicester in the table, may well prompt unrest among the more entitled in the club’s fan base. BG

 

 

Sorry Barry that we don't just accept losing every game but, you know, we want the best for our club. You aren't contractually obliged to tell us how to follow our team any more.

 

Winning the league was the best thing we'll ever do but it didn't half give the opportunity to a bunch of prats who ordinarily wouldn't care to tell us what we should be doing as fans.

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2 hours ago, lgfualol said:

Lots of people critisising the club again without even watching us this season. 

 

You'd think it was unacceptable to have a bit of ambition these days.

They'd think that if they had followed our club since we won the league as well tbf

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I've heard people saying 'Leicester need to know their place'- well yeah, we do- we're a traditional yo-yo club who scrap tooth and nail to get promoted/avoid relegation on a regular basis. Which is exactly what we're doing.

 

Some absolute drips around in the media at the minute who don't seem to be too fond of us.

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21 minutes ago, Ted Maul said:

I've heard people saying 'Leicester need to know their place'- well yeah, we do- we're a traditional yo-yo club who scrap tooth and nail to get promoted/avoid relegation on a regular basis. Which is exactly what we're doing.

 

Some absolute drips around in the media at the minute who don't seem to be too fond of us.

I was literally told last night that "you shouldn't complain about going down, you've had your moment". From an armchair Liverpool fan, I'll add. We just have to ride it out, there'll be plenty of goading and sneering from the press and other football watchers.

 

Must admit though, there's a tiny part of me that loves being a hated club.

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3 minutes ago, Lovejoy said:

I was literally told last night that "you shouldn't complain about going down, you've had your moment". From an armchair Liverpool fan, I'll add. We just have to ride it out, there'll be plenty of goading and sneering from the press and other football watchers.

 

Must admit though, there's a tiny part of me that loves being a hated club.

It's only fun being hated when you're doing well. 

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3 minutes ago, Lovejoy said:

I was literally told last night that "you shouldn't complain about going down, you've had your moment". From an armchair Liverpool fan, I'll add. We just have to ride it out, there'll be plenty of goading and sneering from the press and other football watchers.

 

Must admit though, there's a tiny part of me that loves being a hated club.

Tell him Coutinho should have moved on to a bigger club like Suarez and see what happens.

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15 minutes ago, Lovejoy said:

I was literally told last night that "you shouldn't complain about going down, you've had your moment". From an armchair Liverpool fan, I'll add. We just have to ride it out, there'll be plenty of goading and sneering from the press and other football watchers.

 

Must admit though, there's a tiny part of me that loves being a hated club.

It was sweet when we beat Sevilla and stayed up last year, and it will be sweet when we put everyone back in their box and start doing better this year as well.

 

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13 minutes ago, Blue ROI said:

Tell him Coutinho should have moved on to a bigger club like Suarez and see what happens.

That's just it, isn't it? I remember Micky Quinn saying on Talksport that Coutinho will stay because Liverpool don't need to sell, then stating categorically a few moments later that they will sign Van Dijk.

 

It's the same with Arsenal fans- hate Van Persie, Nasri, Sagna, Cole, etc. for moving to bigger clubs, then slate Vardy for showing us a bit of loyalty.

 

Elitism in football is rife.

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Opinion: Leicester City Are Suffering From Delusions Of Grandeur

By Graham Ruthven

Thursday 19th October 2017

 

In all likelihood, Craig Shakespeare was never the man Leicester City’s owners wanted in charge of the club. He was the man who turned the club’s form around as interim manager following the sacking of Claudio Ranieri, almost forcing their hand in offering him the job on a permanent basis. He was a short-term fix who somehow worked his way into a long-term vision.

Shakespeare’s time as Foxes manager came to an end earlier this week, with Monday night’s 1-1 draw against West Brom prompting Leicester’s owners to pull the trigger. Indeed, things aren’t going so well for Leicester early on this season, currently sitting third bottom of the Premier League table, but this was a decision that highlighted the delusions of grandeur that have taken grip at the King Power Stadium.

It would seem that Leicester City’s owners believe the club should be challenging higher up the table like they were the season they sensationally won the Premier League title. But they must recognise that this was the exception rather than the norm. The norm is what the Foxes are experiencing right now. Down near the bottom is where, on the basis of their squad and stature as a club, they should be.

The statement released to confirm Shakspeare’s exit failed to clarify the club’s official stance on things, only stating that  “the early promise under Craig’s management has not been consistently evident in the months since” and that “a change is necessary to keep the club moving forward.” That lack of clarification was emblematic of a greater lack of direction from the club over the way forward.

 

What’s more, there appears to be no succession plan following the dismissal of Shakespeare. Press reports claimed that the club’s owners wanted to appoint a big name in the mould of Carlo Ancelotti. But the Italian has since distanced himself from the job, with the Premier League’s go-to-man for guaranteed security from relegation, Sam Allardyce, also less than warm on the prospect of taking over at the King Power Stadium. Roberto Mancini and Thomas Tuchel have similarly moved out of reach.

Now, the likes of Sean Dyche and David Wagner are being linked with the vacant position, and even then, there are suggestions that neither of those candidates will be interested in taking over, with compensation also an issue. It’s entirely feasible that Leicester could end up appointing a manager with a similar pedigree to Shakespeare. 

 

This is the sign of a club that has lost sight of its place in the English football landscape. Leicester City’s Premier League triumph of 2015-16 was a tale for the ages, arguably the greatest sporting upset of all time, but it was an anomaly. It wasn’t an illustration of where the Foxes are as a club, or where they should be season after season.

 

Leicester City’s primary aim every season should be to avoid relegation, and their current position in the Premier League reflects that. The Foxes have faced a difficult start to the campaign, coming up against Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool and Manchester United in their opening eight fixtures, but that wasn’t taken into account, seemingly, when evaluating Shakespeare’s place.

This isn’t to say that clubs should aspire to bigger and better things, and having tasted this not so long ago, it’s somewhat understandable that Leicester’s judgement should be informed by that.

 

But Shakespeare’s sacking highlights how the Foxes have lost their way. That could ultimately harm them if they fail to arm themselves for the fight they are fighting rather than the one they wish they were fighting.

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What utter tosh. Don't get this idea people have that we've got delusions of grandeur in thinking we shouldn't be getting outclassed away to lower end teams (hes obviously not been sacked for losing to man Utd and chelsea) - surely even if our place is relegation battle and ambition is a dirty word, we should still be going to those games targeting a win. 

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