The "do they mean us?" thread

[Corky]

7 hours ago, Koke said:

Do any of these media willy pullers know we are in the bottom 3? We have outspent everyone bar the top 7 clubs but we should be okay with parking the bus away at Bournemouth and playing turgid football. 

Apparently winning one trophy unexpectedly means you should accept any old shit thrown your way. Why are Blackburn fans moaning at the moment? They won the league not so long ago, nothing matter after it apparently.

[davieG]

Leicester's problems go far beyond Craig Shakespeare - he must wonder why only he paid the price for their failings

 

 

 

It was only 14 seconds the wrong side of 11pm on the last day of August, the kind of mistake that happens once in a lifetime, but then if you look at Leicester City in the 17 months that have followed their historic Premier League title success of 2016, it is not hard to see why it was them who made it.

Their failure to log documents in time that led to Fifa refusing to ratify the £22 million transfer of Adrien Silva on that last day of the transfer window did not alone lose Craig Shakespeare his job on Tuesday but if a club make enough mistakes like this, bigger consequences follow. The margins are fine indeed in football, but it all adds up, just as surely as there was a time when Leicester seemed to get everything right.

Since they clinched their title in May 2016, and for some of the months before then, the club have embarked along a path of player recruitment and sales which has taken them to a point where they find themselves looking for their third manager in eight months.

It is, of course, always the manager who shoulders the greatest burden and the manager who is the easiest to change. Perhaps the club’s Thai owners, the Srivaddhanaprabha family, had simply, as they said on Tuesday, failed to see the development in Shakespeare since he was given the role permanently in June. But if his place in this deserves examination than what can be said of the others charged with taking the club on?

The director of football Jon Rudkin is responsible for all football matters at the club and closest of all to the patriarch Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha. That puts him a level up from the head of senior player recruitment Eduardo Macia, an appointment from the Claudio Ranieri era and still key to player signings. If Ranieri’s input into the signings of last summer was significant, so too was former head of recruitment Steve Walsh, who left for Everton in 2016 because his path to director of football was blocked by Rudkin.

The Leicester hierarchy at a match last April, including Jon Rudkin (third from right) CREDIT: PA

Last time it was Ranieri, now at Nantes, who paid the price, and now his successor is gone while Rudkin and Macia have survived again. Shakespeare is on the outside, no doubt wondering why it is him and no-one else who should pay the price for the overlapping recruitment strategies of the last 17 months that have left Leicester in the relegation zone with six points.

The caretaker manager Michael Appleton will presumably inherit a familiar problem at the Liberty Stadium on Saturday – the fundamental lack of strength in central midfield which epitomises the recent dysfunction in Leicester’s recruitment. In that position, Leicester currently have available just Vicente Iborra, who started his first league game on Monday; Wilfred Ndidi, who has struggled this season, and Andy King, the club stalwart who is carrying an injury.

Matty James, who started the season so well, has an Achilles injury and while all this can be waved away as the misfortunes that beset any club, it brings us back to the fine margins of the Silva situation. With Danny Drinkwater leaving on that final day of August, and mistakes already made in recruitment in that position, the Silva deal was one signing that the club could not afford to get wrong.

Leicester are short on options in central midfield CREDIT:GETTY IMAGES

Ineligible for Leicester until he is registered on Jan 1, Silva is still training with the first team but, with no game at the weekend to focus his thoughts, his mood is naturally up and down. He is one of a small group of players who never got to play for the manager who signed them. You wonder what he makes of it all, as a former captain of Sporting Lisbon and a European championship winner with Portugal.

Leicester’s signings since that title season have been the work of so many different individuals it is hard to know who takes responsibility for whom. Between them, Walsh, Ranieri, Rudkin and Macia have brought in Islam Slimani (£28 million), Ahmed Musa (£16 million), Papy Mendy (£13 million), Bartosz Kapustka (£7.5 million), Daniel Amartey (£6 million) and Yohan Benalouane (£8 million) although there are few who can see a future for them at the club.

As it stands, the biggest recruitment triumph since the arrival of N’Golo Kante in the summer of 2015 has been Harry Maguire, who was a personal project of Shakespeare. The former Leicester manager persuaded the new England international and his parents of the merits of the club.

Shakespeare convinced Harry Maguire to join the clubCREDIT: GETTY IMAGES

Following Ranieri, and managing the club’s post-title years was always going to be a challenge for Shakespeare whose popularity at Leicester went some way to compensating for his low-profile relative to the cast of managerial characters currently stalking the Premier League’s touchlines. Neither is his fate a reason to challenge the rise of competent, long-term independent recruitment planning at the Premier League’s best clubs.

Yet anyone with the most fundamental understanding of Leicester could see that there have been problems beyond just the man who picked the team and yet, even on the day that he was sacked, there was no acknowledgement of this reality. The big decisions at Leicester are made by Vichai, with Rudkin delivering the bad news – even so Shakespeare deserved some acknowledgment from the club that he was not the only one who had fallen short of expectations.

Would it have been different if Silva had been available from the end of August, since when Leicester have taken three points from a possible 18? If just two of the three draws with Huddersfield Town, Bournemouth or West Bromwich Albion had been converted into wins then Leicester would have ten points and would, most likely, be in the top half of the table. Fine margins indeed, as was that small matter of 14 seconds but, put together, what a difference they make.

AVB's interesting journey continues

The Chinese Super League is coming to a close with three games left in the league season and Shanghai SIPG manager Andre Villas-Boas has found himself under fire. His team drew against Liaoning to leave them six points behind leaders Guangzhou Evergrande. Hulk returned for the Asian Champions League semi-final second leg against Japanese opposition Urawa Reds which Shanghai lost 1-0 and were eliminated. 

The Portuguese coach has not always had an easy time in China and with suggestions that he might leave at the end of the season it will be intriguing to see where he goes next. With a stint in Russia too, his career has taken a strange route – lucrative, but not exactly where you would expect a coach of his ambition.

[Webbo]

Hmm so they're hinting at AVB?

[Guest ttfn]

AVB would be great long term but mid-season would be a disaster.

[mozartfox]

30 minutes ago, davieG said:

Leicester's problems go far beyond Craig Shakespeare - he must wonder why only he paid the price for their failings

 

 

 

It was only 14 seconds the wrong side of 11pm on the last day of August, the kind of mistake that happens once in a lifetime, but then if you look at Leicester City in the 17 months that have followed their historic Premier League title success of 2016, it is not hard to see why it was them who made it.

Their failure to log documents in time that led to Fifa refusing to ratify the £22 million transfer of Adrien Silva on that last day of the transfer window did not alone lose Craig Shakespeare his job on Tuesday but if a club make enough mistakes like this, bigger consequences follow. The margins are fine indeed in football, but it all adds up, just as surely as there was a time when Leicester seemed to get everything right.

Since they clinched their title in May 2016, and for some of the months before then, the club have embarked along a path of player recruitment and sales which has taken them to a point where they find themselves looking for their third manager in eight months.

It is, of course, always the manager who shoulders the greatest burden and the manager who is the easiest to change. Perhaps the club’s Thai owners, the Srivaddhanaprabha family, had simply, as they said on Tuesday, failed to see the development in Shakespeare since he was given the role permanently in June. But if his place in this deserves examination than what can be said of the others charged with taking the club on?

The director of football Jon Rudkin is responsible for all football matters at the club and closest of all to the patriarch Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha. That puts him a level up from the head of senior player recruitment Eduardo Macia, an appointment from the Claudio Ranieri era and still key to player signings. If Ranieri’s input into the signings of last summer was significant, so too was former head of recruitment Steve Walsh, who left for Everton in 2016 because his path to director of football was blocked by Rudkin.

The Leicester hierarchy at a match last April, including Jon Rudkin (third from right) CREDIT: PA

Last time it was Ranieri, now at Nantes, who paid the price, and now his successor is gone while Rudkin and Macia have survived again. Shakespeare is on the outside, no doubt wondering why it is him and no-one else who should pay the price for the overlapping recruitment strategies of the last 17 months that have left Leicester in the relegation zone with six points.

The caretaker manager Michael Appleton will presumably inherit a familiar problem at the Liberty Stadium on Saturday – the fundamental lack of strength in central midfield which epitomises the recent dysfunction in Leicester’s recruitment. In that position, Leicester currently have available just Vicente Iborra, who started his first league game on Monday; Wilfred Ndidi, who has struggled this season, and Andy King, the club stalwart who is carrying an injury.

Matty James, who started the season so well, has an Achilles injury and while all this can be waved away as the misfortunes that beset any club, it brings us back to the fine margins of the Silva situation. With Danny Drinkwater leaving on that final day of August, and mistakes already made in recruitment in that position, the Silva deal was one signing that the club could not afford to get wrong.

Leicester are short on options in central midfield CREDIT:GETTY IMAGES

Ineligible for Leicester until he is registered on Jan 1, Silva is still training with the first team but, with no game at the weekend to focus his thoughts, his mood is naturally up and down. He is one of a small group of players who never got to play for the manager who signed them. You wonder what he makes of it all, as a former captain of Sporting Lisbon and a European championship winner with Portugal.

Leicester’s signings since that title season have been the work of so many different individuals it is hard to know who takes responsibility for whom. Between them, Walsh, Ranieri, Rudkin and Macia have brought in Islam Slimani (£28 million), Ahmed Musa (£16 million), Papy Mendy (£13 million), Bartosz Kapustka (£7.5 million), Daniel Amartey (£6 million) and Yohan Benalouane (£8 million) although there are few who can see a future for them at the club.

As it stands, the biggest recruitment triumph since the arrival of N’Golo Kante in the summer of 2015 has been Harry Maguire, who was a personal project of Shakespeare. The former Leicester manager persuaded the new England international and his parents of the merits of the club.

Shakespeare convinced Harry Maguire to join the clubCREDIT: GETTY IMAGES

Following Ranieri, and managing the club’s post-title years was always going to be a challenge for Shakespeare whose popularity at Leicester went some way to compensating for his low-profile relative to the cast of managerial characters currently stalking the Premier League’s touchlines. Neither is his fate a reason to challenge the rise of competent, long-term independent recruitment planning at the Premier League’s best clubs.

Yet anyone with the most fundamental understanding of Leicester could see that there have been problems beyond just the man who picked the team and yet, even on the day that he was sacked, there was no acknowledgement of this reality. The big decisions at Leicester are made by Vichai, with Rudkin delivering the bad news – even so Shakespeare deserved some acknowledgment from the club that he was not the only one who had fallen short of expectations.

Would it have been different if Silva had been available from the end of August, since when Leicester have taken three points from a possible 18? If just two of the three draws with Huddersfield Town, Bournemouth or West Bromwich Albion had been converted into wins then Leicester would have ten points and would, most likely, be in the top half of the table. Fine margins indeed, as was that small matter of 14 seconds but, put together, what a difference they make.

AVB's interesting journey continues

The Chinese Super League is coming to a close with three games left in the league season and Shanghai SIPG manager Andre Villas-Boas has found himself under fire. His team drew against Liaoning to leave them six points behind leaders Guangzhou Evergrande. Hulk returned for the Asian Champions League semi-final second leg against Japanese opposition Urawa Reds which Shanghai lost 1-0 and were eliminated. 

The Portuguese coach has not always had an easy time in China and with suggestions that he might leave at the end of the season it will be intriguing to see where he goes next. With a stint in Russia too, his career has taken a strange route – lucrative, but not exactly where you would expect a coach of his ambition.

Very interesting read.  Rudders will be hoping the Owners do not take the Telegraph..........

[Nigel Graham Pearson]

Hard not to dislike Rudkin after that read.

[Mr Weller]

The media have a script whose subtext is 'who do these Leicester upstarts think they are? Why don't they just accept they are not a top 6 club and know their place? Why do they sack managers just because they are on the bottom three? Everyone knows the title win was a once in a lifetime fluke and Leicester should just be grateful they won it at all'

 

Troible is, our owners don't know that scrip. They are billionaires who are used to winning and they didn't buy Leicester to be content with the old yo yo routine of the past. They don't care what the daily Torygraph says or what the top 6 say.

 

Most fans felt it was time for Shakespeare to go because we know we can do better, we have the resources and now we even have the history.

 

Thank goodness for our owners!

[davieG]

4 minutes ago, Webbo said:

Hmm so they're hinting at AVB?

Seems more than just  a coincidence that it's tagged onto the end.

[foxfanazer]

I’d take a punt at AVB over most of the other names touted

[Poznan34]

We are mentioned in this: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4998326/12-billion-reasons-Qatar-host-2022-World-Cup.html

 

"It is an investment programme that takes in every major league, most major clubs, some leading players and each major confederation, plus governing body FIFA and the International Olympic Committee.

 

Its tentacles reach from the Indonesian Super League to Leicester City and Wolverhampton Wanderers via the Juventus Academy, Tunisia and Lionel Messi. Qatar has, in effect, bought the game."

Links with Qatar are news to me unless I've missed something? Any ideas?
 

edit: It mentions Burrda, but that sponsorship was years ago?

Edited 19 October 2017 by Poznan34

[Arriba Los Zorros]

2 hours ago, Nigel Graham Pearson said:

Hard not to dislike Rudkin after that read.

Nothing we didn't already know, selfish, horrible politicking **** that he is.

[Tuna]

3 hours ago, davieG said:

Leicester's problems go far beyond Craig Shakespeare - he must wonder why only he paid the price for their failings

 

 

 

It was only 14 seconds the wrong side of 11pm on the last day of August, the kind of mistake that happens once in a lifetime, but then if you look at Leicester City in the 17 months that have followed their historic Premier League title success of 2016, it is not hard to see why it was them who made it.

Their failure to log documents in time that led to Fifa refusing to ratify the £22 million transfer of Adrien Silva on that last day of the transfer window did not alone lose Craig Shakespeare his job on Tuesday but if a club make enough mistakes like this, bigger consequences follow. The margins are fine indeed in football, but it all adds up, just as surely as there was a time when Leicester seemed to get everything right.

Since they clinched their title in May 2016, and for some of the months before then, the club have embarked along a path of player recruitment and sales which has taken them to a point where they find themselves looking for their third manager in eight months.

It is, of course, always the manager who shoulders the greatest burden and the manager who is the easiest to change. Perhaps the club’s Thai owners, the Srivaddhanaprabha family, had simply, as they said on Tuesday, failed to see the development in Shakespeare since he was given the role permanently in June. But if his place in this deserves examination than what can be said of the others charged with taking the club on?

The director of football Jon Rudkin is responsible for all football matters at the club and closest of all to the patriarch Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha. That puts him a level up from the head of senior player recruitment Eduardo Macia, an appointment from the Claudio Ranieri era and still key to player signings. If Ranieri’s input into the signings of last summer was significant, so too was former head of recruitment Steve Walsh, who left for Everton in 2016 because his path to director of football was blocked by Rudkin.

The Leicester hierarchy at a match last April, including Jon Rudkin (third from right) CREDIT: PA

Last time it was Ranieri, now at Nantes, who paid the price, and now his successor is gone while Rudkin and Macia have survived again. Shakespeare is on the outside, no doubt wondering why it is him and no-one else who should pay the price for the overlapping recruitment strategies of the last 17 months that have left Leicester in the relegation zone with six points.

The caretaker manager Michael Appleton will presumably inherit a familiar problem at the Liberty Stadium on Saturday – the fundamental lack of strength in central midfield which epitomises the recent dysfunction in Leicester’s recruitment. In that position, Leicester currently have available just Vicente Iborra, who started his first league game on Monday; Wilfred Ndidi, who has struggled this season, and Andy King, the club stalwart who is carrying an injury.

Matty James, who started the season so well, has an Achilles injury and while all this can be waved away as the misfortunes that beset any club, it brings us back to the fine margins of the Silva situation. With Danny Drinkwater leaving on that final day of August, and mistakes already made in recruitment in that position, the Silva deal was one signing that the club could not afford to get wrong.

Leicester are short on options in central midfield CREDIT:GETTY IMAGES

Ineligible for Leicester until he is registered on Jan 1, Silva is still training with the first team but, with no game at the weekend to focus his thoughts, his mood is naturally up and down. He is one of a small group of players who never got to play for the manager who signed them. You wonder what he makes of it all, as a former captain of Sporting Lisbon and a European championship winner with Portugal.

Leicester’s signings since that title season have been the work of so many different individuals it is hard to know who takes responsibility for whom. Between them, Walsh, Ranieri, Rudkin and Macia have brought in Islam Slimani (£28 million), Ahmed Musa (£16 million), Papy Mendy (£13 million), Bartosz Kapustka (£7.5 million), Daniel Amartey (£6 million) and Yohan Benalouane (£8 million) although there are few who can see a future for them at the club.

As it stands, the biggest recruitment triumph since the arrival of N’Golo Kante in the summer of 2015 has been Harry Maguire, who was a personal project of Shakespeare. The former Leicester manager persuaded the new England international and his parents of the merits of the club.

Shakespeare convinced Harry Maguire to join the clubCREDIT: GETTY IMAGES

Following Ranieri, and managing the club’s post-title years was always going to be a challenge for Shakespeare whose popularity at Leicester went some way to compensating for his low-profile relative to the cast of managerial characters currently stalking the Premier League’s touchlines. Neither is his fate a reason to challenge the rise of competent, long-term independent recruitment planning at the Premier League’s best clubs.

Yet anyone with the most fundamental understanding of Leicester could see that there have been problems beyond just the man who picked the team and yet, even on the day that he was sacked, there was no acknowledgement of this reality. The big decisions at Leicester are made by Vichai, with Rudkin delivering the bad news – even so Shakespeare deserved some acknowledgment from the club that he was not the only one who had fallen short of expectations.

Would it have been different if Silva had been available from the end of August, since when Leicester have taken three points from a possible 18? If just two of the three draws with Huddersfield Town, Bournemouth or West Bromwich Albion had been converted into wins then Leicester would have ten points and would, most likely, be in the top half of the table. Fine margins indeed, as was that small matter of 14 seconds but, put together, what a difference they make.

AVB's interesting journey continues

The Chinese Super League is coming to a close with three games left in the league season and Shanghai SIPG manager Andre Villas-Boas has found himself under fire. His team drew against Liaoning to leave them six points behind leaders Guangzhou Evergrande. Hulk returned for the Asian Champions League semi-final second leg against Japanese opposition Urawa Reds which Shanghai lost 1-0 and were eliminated. 

The Portuguese coach has not always had an easy time in China and with suggestions that he might leave at the end of the season it will be intriguing to see where he goes next. With a stint in Russia too, his career has taken a strange route – lucrative, but not exactly where you would expect a coach of his ambition.

 

[Arriba Los Zorros]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/4725118/leicester-manager-jon-rudkin-craig-shakespeare/amp/

 

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Leicester director of football Jon Rudkin the man behind Craig Shakespeare’s axing with the Foxes

Rudkin wanted to bring in Huddersfield boss David Wagner last season - but had to settle for Shakespeare even though he wasn't keen

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19th October 2017, 10:31 pm

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NOBODY took Leicester’s director of football too seriously when he showed his face at the club’s training ground.

Jon Rudkin, little known until he was promoted from his role as academy director in 2014, has always been a soft target around the place.

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Leicester director of football Jon Rudkin (left), with Foxes owner Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha, played a huge part in Craig Shakespeare’s sacking

 

 

But Craig Shakespeare, sacked by Rudkin on Tuesday, will regret that now.

In the fullness of time, goalkeeper coach Mike Stowell and head physio David Rennie may well feel the same way.

Rudkin, with the full support of the club’s Thai ownership, is running the show.

 

Shakespeare, falling back on his CV as a decent central midfielder with Walsall and West Brom, talked himself into the job when Claudio Ranieri was fired.

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Over the last few months, he has talked his way out of it.

Shakespeare under-estimated Rudkin’s power — he has become a trusted and valued member of Leicester’s management team.

And Rudkin was never really having Shakespeare.

As the clamour to give him the job permanently intensified last season, Rudkin was busy trying to convince David Wagner to leave Huddersfield.

To his credit, Wagner — knee-deep in a promotion race with Huddersfield at the time — did not want any distractions in the final weeks of the season.

Those negotiations, with Rudkin desperate to tempt the German coach to leave the Terriers, are the reason Shakespeare was left hanging until June 8.

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Rudkin had wanted to bring in Huddersfield Town boss David Wagner

When Wagner turned the Foxes down out of loyalty to Huddersfield chairman Dean Hoyle, they were left with Shakespeare. He was regarded as the interim manager — but Leicester were never really that into him.

The trust, the bond and the alliances which developed when Ranieri led the Foxes to their 5,000-1 shot Premier League title have all been eroded.

Shakespeare denied stabbing Ranieri in the back when the Italian was fired by Leicester just nine months after leading them to that crazy title.

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Assistant Michael Appleton will take caretaker charge of the Foxes

Whatever Shakey said about it, he always looked a bit shifty sitting in Ranieri’s place at press conferences and in the dugout.

Shakespeare, with that permanent too-clever-by-half look about him, always appeared like a man who had been up to no good. But he could have got away with that, if results on the pitch had been decent enough.

Instead, the system refined by Ranieri to such an extent that the Foxes won the Premier League crown by ten points, has quietly been discarded.

There is a feeling captain Wes Morgan, so influential two seasons ago, is coming to the end. It is also an open secret that Wilfred Ndidi and Vicente Iborra, the two central midfielders brought in to do the job of N’Golo Kante, are not in the same class.

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Shakespeare with title-winning manager Claudio Ranieri

The dressing room dissenters, with Kasper Schmeichel and Jamie Vardy the biggest noises in camp, have been sounding off in recent weeks.

Shakespeare changed it up again on Monday, making the fatal error of shoving main striker Vardy out to the left to accommodate Kelechi Iheanacho.

They drew 1-1 with West Brom — not the worst result — but still one which left Leicester in the bottom three.

For Rudkin, it gave him good enough reason to get rid.

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THE most striking thing about Lianne Sanderson’s evidence to Parliament is that she spoke without fear.

Former England star Sanderson stuck up for her mate Eni Aluko at the Digital, Culture, Media and Sport committee hearing, throwing herself at the mercy of a pack of parliamentary bloodhounds with a raw and passionate speech.

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Former England star Lianne Sanderson gave an impassioned defence of Eni Aluko

As she saw it, Aluko has been wronged by a system that has been ingrained through years of ignorance and mismanagement at every level.

It is people like Sanderson, no matter how much damage she did to the FA by lifting the lid on the culture around the place, who should play a major part in its reform.

Just because she does not mind her Ps and Qs is not a good enough reason to overlook her suitability when a new governance team starts to take shape.

Sanderson, 29, who has had her fair share of issues with England’s management team, went in there and told Government how it is.

With that kind of attitude, Sanderson should be in demand.

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Mourinho made Shaw travel to Lisbon for the Champions League clash with Benfica, but he did not stand a chance of making the bench.

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The left-back, earning £130,000-a-week, has made just one first team appearance this season — 45 minutes as a sub in the EFL Cup win over Burton Albion.

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[Dan LCFC]

Glad to see Rudkin finally getting pelters from reliable sources. It's long overdue. This bloke has totally drained our potential.

[Far Post Gerry]

To be fair, the fact that Rudkin tried to get Wagner gives me a bit more confidence that he knows what he's doing. I wonder if he's appraoched him again now.

[Koke]

At least Rudkin wasn't initially keen on Shakespeare and wanted Wagner so in hindsight he was right about that.

[dynamark]

and here was me thinking we had identified that Vardy had their right back on toast and that's why he played wider on Monday?

[HighPeakFox]

This is what is known as scurrilous noise

 

Whatever Shakey said about it, he always looked a bit shifty sitting in Ranieri’s place at press conferences and in the dugout.

Shakespeare, with that permanent too-clever-by-half look about him, always appeared like a man who had been up to no good. But he could have got away with that, if results on the pitch had been decent enough.

Instead, the system refined by Ranieri to such an extent that the Foxes won the Premier League crown by ten points, has quietly been discarded.

There is a feeling captain Wes Morgan, so influential two seasons ago, is coming to the end. It is also an open secret that Wilfred Ndidi and Vicente Iborra, the two central midfielders brought in to do the job of N’Golo Kante, are not in the same class.

[Sunbury Fox]

This just popped up in my Google feed:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/sean-dyches-reported-interest-leicester-11371788.amp

 

So sick of this patronising attitude towards us. Our average attendances and budget would place us firmly in the top half, so why should we be prepared to think it is okay if we get relegated, especially with a squad that won the league by 10 points 18 months ago? I don't hear the media saying West Ham or Southampton should be happy to be relegated. And they've never won the league. Why are we seen as a club on a par with Watford, Burnley, etc? Don't get it. 

Edited 20 October 2017 by Sunbury Fox

[norwichfox]

9 minutes ago, Sunbury Fox said:

This just popped up in my Google feed:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/sean-dyches-reported-interest-leicester-11371788.amp

 

So sick of this patronising attitude towards us. Our average attendances and budget would place us firmly in the top half, so why should we be prepared to think it is okay if we get relegated, especially with a squad that won the league by 10 points 18 months ago? I don't hear the media saying West Ham or Southampton should be happy to be relegated. And they've never won the league. Why are we seen as a club on a par with Watford, Burnley, etc? Don't get it. 

It's the Mirror, to be expected and taken with 2 pinches of salt.

[Lovejoy]

11 minutes ago, Sunbury Fox said:

This just popped up in my Google feed:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/sean-dyches-reported-interest-leicester-11371788.amp

 

So sick of this patronising attitude towards us. Our average attendances and budget would place us firmly in the top half, so why should we be prepared to think it is okay if we get relegated, especially with a squad that won the league by 10 points 18 months ago? I don't hear the media saying West Ham or Southampton should be happy to be relegated. And they've never won the league. Why are we seen as a club on a par with Watford, Burnley, etc? Don't get it. 

You're forgetting that the only thing the English press love more than to build up an underdog is to then shoot them down twice as hard.

[Koke]

14 minutes ago, Sunbury Fox said:

This just popped up in my Google feed:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/sean-dyches-reported-interest-leicester-11371788.amp

 

So sick of this patronising attitude towards us. Our average attendances and budget would place us firmly in the top half, so why should we be prepared to think it is okay if we get relegated, especially with a squad that won the league by 10 points 18 months ago? I don't hear the media saying West Ham or Southampton should be happy to be relegated. And they've never won the league. Why are we seen as a club on a par with Watford, Burnley, etc? Don't get it. 

 

"And what if they went down?

 

Just do it again in another tier, as they have done previously. Enjoy the crack of winning football matches again and come back up.

 

It’s simple"

 

They mean like Blackburn, Leeds, QPR, Blackpool, Ipswich, Derby, Charlton, , Fulham, Bolton, Sheff Wednesday etc all came back up so easily? Oh it's so simple according to an elitist knob journalist.  

[Ted Maul]

To be fair, it will be nice to have the record for second tier titles outright.

 

It ain't our time to go down though, we're far too good for that when we've got our act together.

[Ted Maul]

As for the Mirror article, just don't bother reading it- genuinely don't give a toss about what anyone who writes for them has to say, or what anyone who reads it thinks about us.

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4 minutes ago, Koke said:

 

"And what if they went down?

 

Just do it again in another tier, as they have done previously. Enjoy the crack of winning football matches again and come back up.

 

It’s simple"

 

They mean like Blackburn, Leeds, QPR, Blackpool, Ipswich, Derby, Charlton, , Fulham, Bolton, Sheff Wednesday etc all came back up so easily? Oh it's so simple according to an elitist knob journalist.  

Agreed. I looked at the championship table the other day and 5 of the bottom 6 were ex premier league clubs. If you go down there is no guaranteed return. As a (very) long term supporter I get really fed up with this “know your place” attitude from the media. Why should my club not do everything it can to reach the highest league position possible. I don’t and never did expect us to win the premier league -what a glorious achievement- and I would happily settle for midtable obscurity and a few cup runs (wins!), but why should I / we accept another relegation just because traditionally we’ve been a yo-yo club?