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1 hour ago, Manwell Pablo said:


Being world champion is a massive achievement for any professional boxer.

 

You are probably right in regards to this fight though as it’s that big it’s probably bigger than the belts themselves. It’d be nice if it was for the undisputed title but it’s not going to sell significantly, if any, less PPV buys without the WBO involved.

 

Which is why Hearn is calling their bluff and telling them if they don’t want be on board it’s their loss. I think regardless whatever happens with it it won’t stop the fight going ahead. Either the WBO get onboard or Joshua will vacate.

 

Wilder is the real problem, hopefully they will just settle out of court.

Yeah im not disregarding the belts in terms of winning them, winning that world title takes you to thst next level.but once you win them and are on the level of a joshua you're simply bigger than the belt it becomes more about legacy nobody is gonna remember joshua retaining the belts against pulev, but they will remember joshua knocking out fury even without any belts on the line , especially with a fight like this to as Fury never lost those belts either and is the lineal heavyweight champion, isn't a belt but means more than keeping them through politics . One of two being vacated doesn't stop the winner of this fight being the man in heavyweight boxing.  Fighters need to start just ****ing the mandatory off and just saying this fight is happening to stop this bollocks politics being used to duck opponents. 

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51 minutes ago, The Horse's Mouth said:

Yeah im not disregarding the belts in terms of winning them, winning that world title takes you to thst next level.but once you win them and are on the level of a joshua you're simply bigger than the belt it becomes more about legacy nobody is gonna remember joshua retaining the belts against pulev, but they will remember joshua knocking out fury even without any belts on the line , especially with a fight like this to as Fury never lost those belts either and is the lineal heavyweight champion, isn't a belt but means more than keeping them through politics . One of two being vacated doesn't stop the winner of this fight being the man in heavyweight boxing.  Fighters need to start just ****ing the mandatory off and just saying this fight is happening to stop this bollocks politics being used to duck opponents. 


That’s what’ll happen here if it comes down to it.

 

The issue like I say is Wilder taking legal action and that’s a contractual issue that doesn’t have anything to do with the WBC, as far as they are concerned Wilder missed his activation clause date and Whyte got ironed out by Povetkin who himself has a contractual rematch and Covid complications so the Fury Joshua fight is what they want.

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On 15/12/2020 at 05:32, Sly said:

If you’re Uysk, do you step aside if this happens in April / May and just let everyone get the right for all 4 titles? 
 

It’d be a shame if AJ had to drop the title. 
 

I suppose the issue you have, is that Uysk might then need to wait 12 months for his next word title fight, if they have a “best of three” series. They’ll definitely be a rematch clause. 
 

Wilder is an interesting one. In theory, Fury beat him twice. If a third fight happens, it surely won’t be in the US. Fury has never had a professional fight in Europe (I don’t think). Would they be able to make it in the UK? I’m not sure anyone wants to see it. Here or in the US. If Wildwr were to win, the AJ fight will never happen.
 

It’ll be like Bowe / Lewis all over again. Maybe we’ll get an “exhibition” fight from them though.

Fury never fought in Europe??? Or you mean wilder.? 

 

Both have.

 

Wilder v Harrison 

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1 hour ago, tylesta said:

Fury never fought in Europe??? Or you mean wilder.? 

 

Both have.

 

Wilder v Harrison 

Sorry, I meant Wilder. I couldn’t think of a fight he’d had outside of the America Mexico. 

 

How did I forget this :

 

 

 

I mean, half of those were wild swinging haymakers! 😂 

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6 hours ago, Tinman said:

Thoughts MP?


Still massively favour Canelo.

 

Jon Ryder is an absolute world away from Saul talent wise and roughly the same size and he gave Smith a torrid time, and beat him imo. The shoes on the other foot in terms of the judges tonight and despite Callum’s size at the weight he’s never been one for a pure outside fight. Like I said a few weeks ago, it’s levels, and he’ll get shown them tonight. This prime version of Canelo is P4P king at the moment in most people’s eyes.

 

That said I wrote of Smith against groves and he turned in a career best performance and I haven’t called many wrong in this thread but maybe he’s the man that’s going to continually shove shit in my face....I’d love nothing more than to be wrong tbh it’d be an amazing night for British boxing if he does it. He has to be extremely clever, use every size advantage he has, and hope Canelo has an off night due to the late arrangement of the fight.... but it’s a massive task.

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4 hours ago, MPH said:

You’d need to grow a couple of extra arms and fists to beat Alvarez. Simply brilliant.


Highly impressive performance, I think Smith did well to win the 2/3 rounds he did and be fairly competitive for the first two thirds of the fight.

 

 

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On 15/12/2020 at 16:53, The Horse's Mouth said:

I dont get this obsession with the belts, they mean **** all really, nobody is going into this fight arsed about fury holding them all its about 2 superstars coming to blows

Like Football has Cups & trophies...To carry the  Belt or belts DOES mean something....

You go into the fing & Tell them...otherwise..!!

 

 

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9 hours ago, MPH said:

You’d need to grow a couple of extra arms and fists to beat Alvarez. Simply brilliant.

 

Or at very least a "Mexican beef" burrito from the same deli. 

 

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35 minutes ago, James. said:

May have misread but wasn't he also retrospectively cleared when they changed the thresholds or something?


From what I understand he was cleared of doing it intentionally and the amounts found in his samples matched his story,  but still had to serve a six month ban as you are responsible for what goes into your body,

 

Theres a similar story involving Enzo Mc where he took a supplement that incorrectly listed their ingredients but he still got six months despite proving it was their fck up.

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On 22/12/2020 at 19:36, Sly said:

If personally like to see another Canelo Mayweather fight. Doubt Floyd would risk his legacy though. 

Not whilst he is getting a kings ransom to fight people off the street. If that gravy train ended it might happen, Mayweather loves money.

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3 hours ago, Strokes said:

Not whilst he is getting a kings ransom to fight people off the street. If that gravy train ended it might happen, Mayweather loves money.


 

Probably one of the greatest boxers of all time but I’d hate to have his mindset. He’s already got enough money to set himself and the next five generations of his family up with whatever they want for life but still feels the need to lower himself to be being dragged around the world taking insults and public humiliation by more witty people (and I include Logan Paul in that amazingly) all in the name of staying relevant and  earning a few quid.

 

https://www.sbnation.com/2017/8/25/16189222/conor-mcgregor-quotes-mayweather-fight

 

Obviously some of his statements are laughable especially regarding proper boxing fans who collectively made a brutal killing at the book makers due to uneducated people backing McGregor, I’ve public ally stated what a layed down on that fight, went to sleep at 11pm that night with no intention and slept like a baby. But McGregor had everything to gain in that fight and the build up, Floyd basically sold his self respect away for cash he he doesn’t need, and here he is doing it again. 
 

Anyway Merry Xmas to all the FT boxing fans, hopefully we can keep the chat up going into next year as it looks like an absolute cracker.

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