Bilo Posted 16 July 2011 Share Posted 16 July 2011 I do take the point about semi-literate kids writing idiotic posts in impenetrable txt spk, I really do. TPH's post about two people essentially making the same basic point about Heskey being a potentially good signing summed it up well. I'd definitely take a great deal more notice of the first and most probably cringe with embarrassment that I support the same team as the kid who wrote the second. If however the first post was made not in text speak but in slightly imperfect grammatically English (I.e. Mixing up your and you're, missing punctuation marks etc) I would personally find it rather cheap to go through the post correcting it just because a poster doesn't agree. Text speak is lazy and often the mark of a moron, that's why it is explicitly banned, but I'm not sure that goes for substandard grammar which could just as easily be symptomatic of dyslexia as a mark of carelessness. Perhaps I'm being overly sensitive as a dyspraxic myself though. Either that or disgustingly PC or inclusive as a Guardianista. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellyfox Posted 16 July 2011 Author Share Posted 16 July 2011 http://www.foxestalk.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=74472&pid=1915682&st=0entry1915682 I take it there is another thread for Squad Numbers not just the one above...... Linkage, I'm interested to see what you mean? Looks like it has been removed. someone picked up on spelling players names incorectly. Somebody else came on and said whats it matter and i hate Fvkers like you. I will check incase i got the wrong thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accessory Posted 16 July 2011 Share Posted 16 July 2011 City forward says it's bring you're A-game or miss out… Seems like the club need a proofreader, or maybe its media team are so badly paid that they can't wait to finish work on a Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozleicester Posted 16 July 2011 Share Posted 16 July 2011 Surely, the value of a post is in the information or opinion provided. Im afraid anyone who is so obsessive about spelling and grammar that they feel they need to correct others, needs to look at themselves. it is a simple fact that English (and all languages) are evolving. We no longer use "thee" or "Thou" and a gazillion other words in current english, but to have written without them 400 years ago would have seen you branded as... Thou sanctimonious doghearted fustilarian! A soulless weather-bitten pumpion! etc etc. Valuing, Countering or dismissing an argument based on spelling or gramatical correctness more shows you for the fool and to be honest, if the only thing you see when reading a topic is the literary skills... you need to review your comprehension skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haydos Posted 16 July 2011 Share Posted 16 July 2011 Your avatar +1's being handed out right, left and centre in this thread, I'm not happy! I ****ing love her. Imagine her that smile as shes on her knees looking up at you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yojoe36 Posted 16 July 2011 Share Posted 16 July 2011 Dear Mods I am not the longest member on the site and enjoy most of what is posted. banter is great i have no problem infact i do love banter. However one thing i do find offensive is the people on here that pick up others on their grammer. Had i wanted to read this tripe i would go on a mensa site. My grammer is not that great does that make me thick or a bad person. Also people have been on other sites (BCFC) to name one, came back on here and ridiculed members of that and other sites for their grammer. Why should i and others have to come on here because we are not accademic and put up with this as members of a site for my beloved LCFC. Also how good does this site look to anyone that visits it from another club and people on here are taking the piss out of other sites because someone can't spell or put a full stop in the wrong place. Like i say banter is one thing taking the piss out of some one who struggles at some thing is not fun. I myself suffered this abuse on this site a few years ago under the nick of barnsley fox (insert comma) and for a period left the site. My question to you is should i suffer this and should others ????????????????????????????????? The reason i have put this here is so everyone can see how I and praps many others who would like to join in feel. So all you piss takers feel free to rip me. Well if you ever say "I" it must be in a capital letter. I understand what your saying, but I think your being a bit over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conscript Fox Posted 16 July 2011 Share Posted 16 July 2011 As a professional proofreader, let me assure you that I could point out a number of errors in this diatribe, should I wish. Show a bit more tolerance, mate - pedantry on a football forum just isn't cool. I did say perfection is not required, Bruce. To be fair. And I do a bit of proof reading myself at times for a few quid, but I dont deem it necessary to apply that to a football forum post, however, reasonable effort in spelling and construction, yes. Funny, you preach tolerance in the same post you dismiss my opinion as a diatribe because it doesnt suit your viewpoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxyPV Posted 16 July 2011 Share Posted 16 July 2011 I'd be more concerned about all the duplicate threads and mindless trolling than someone's lack of grammatical accuracy etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilo Posted 16 July 2011 Share Posted 16 July 2011 I'd be more concerned about all the duplicate threads and mindless trolling than someone's lack of grammatical accuracy etc. I have to agree with the former in particular. There are far too many duplicate threads being created that really detract from the arguments in hand. In fairness to the mods on the second point, trolls are despatched fairly quickly on the whole. Look at choose a username last night who said our main derby would be Northampton Town in a couple of years time. Complete moron with nothing interesting to say, thread deleted and troll banned. Same has happened with some of the Brizzle fans who came on purely to tell us how deluded and tinpot we were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 16 July 2011 Share Posted 16 July 2011 There are far too many duplicate threads being created that really detract from the arguments in hand. There have been a few recently, yes, but I can't see this going to stop with especially new members (for example) joining in and creating a thread about a player and not looking down the particular forum to see if the thread is already there. (I hope you get me here) It's a pain in the backside but it's just a consistent problem which will happen now and again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilo Posted 16 July 2011 Share Posted 16 July 2011 There have been a few recently, yes, but I can't see this going to stop with especially new members (for example) joining in and creating a thread about a player and not looking down the particular forum to see if the thread is already there. (I hope you get me here) It's a pain in the backside but it's just a consistent problem which will happen now and again. The only thing the mods can do for that is to move or merge the thread. Unfortunately there aren't quite as many of them as there used to be, so some slip through the net, especially considering the fact that this forum is growing in numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buce Posted 16 July 2011 Share Posted 16 July 2011 I did say perfection is not required, Bruce. To be fair. And I do a bit of proof reading myself at times for a few quid, but I dont deem it necessary to apply that to a football forum post, however, reasonable effort in spelling and construction, yes. Funny, you preach tolerance in the same post you dismiss my opinion as a diatribe because it doesnt suit your viewpoint. I chose my words very carefully; the fact that I described your post as 'a diatribe' is not indicative of whether or nor I share your viewpoint, merely an accurate description of its substance. Or are you aware of some other definition of the word with which I'm unfamiliar? If you are going to set yourself up as an arbiter of correct grammar, then you shouldn't complain when people judge you by those same exacting standards. And my name is 'Buce' . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryn Posted 16 July 2011 Share Posted 16 July 2011 There's a huge amount of ridiculous anal people on this forum, why you've given them the satisfaction of such a thread I don't know. By and large, it's great, so I'd just get on with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted 16 July 2011 Share Posted 16 July 2011 I think there is only one way of settling this - Buce claims to be a professional proof-reader, promote him to mod and have him go round correcting grammatical errors & spelling mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webbo Posted 16 July 2011 Share Posted 16 July 2011 I think there is only one way of settling this - Buce claims to be a professional proof-reader, promote him to mod and have him go round correcting grammatical errors & spelling mistakes. I think there are better candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AoWW Posted 16 July 2011 Share Posted 16 July 2011 I think there are better candidates. Really? Can't say any spring to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webbo Posted 16 July 2011 Share Posted 16 July 2011 <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilo Posted 16 July 2011 Share Posted 16 July 2011 WEBBO FOR PROOFREADER! It begins again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conscript Fox Posted 17 July 2011 Share Posted 17 July 2011 I chose my words very carefully; the fact that I described your post as 'a diatribe' is not indicative of whether or nor I share your viewpoint, merely an accurate description of its substance. Or are you aware of some other definition of the word with which I'm unfamiliar? If you are going to set yourself up as an arbiter of correct grammar, then you shouldn't complain when people judge you by those same exacting standards. And my name is 'Buce' . As did I Bruce, I never said anything about sharing my viewpoint, I said my contribution was dismissed as a diatribe because it didnt suit yours. Also, where have I set myself up as arbiter of grammar? I expressed a preference for well written posts, that was all. Wading in with this 'Im a proof reader' has made you look a bit of a .... And for all your supposed perfection, I see you have been at the Edit button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millzi Posted 17 July 2011 Share Posted 17 July 2011 I ****ing love her. Imagine her that smile as shes on her knees looking up at you DON'T! Just don't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buce Posted 17 July 2011 Share Posted 17 July 2011 Wading in with this 'Im a proof reader' has made you look a bit of a .... Whereas this... I do a bit of proof reading myself at times for a few quid, .....in a post riddled with schoolboy errors, makes you look like... what, a liar? And for all your supposed perfection.... Perhaps you would point me to the post where I expressed this? .......I see you have been at the Edit button. To add the last line, "And my name is Buce", something you still seem unable to grasp; evidently, your reading comprehension is as poor as your grammar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millzi Posted 17 July 2011 Share Posted 17 July 2011 Whereas this... .....in a post riddled with schoolboy errors, makes you look like... what, a liar? Perhaps you would point me to the post where I expressed this? To add the last line, "And my name is Buce", something you still seem unable to grasp; evidently, your reading comprehension is as poor as your grammar. FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozleicester Posted 17 July 2011 Share Posted 17 July 2011 WEBBO FOR PROOFREADER! It begins again. PEBBO for woof reader.... im on the bandwagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellyfox Posted 17 July 2011 Author Share Posted 17 July 2011 Well i had hoped that we would get an official comment on this and a guide line. I thank everyone for your thoughts and comments (good and bad) I also hope that this has changed a few Attitudes towards those that are not perfect (myself included) More comments would be good but a guide line from the site admin would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conscript Fox Posted 17 July 2011 Share Posted 17 July 2011 Whereas this... .....in a post riddled with schoolboy errors, makes you look like... what, a liar? Perhaps you would point me to the post where I expressed this? To add the last line, "And my name is Buce", something you still seem unable to grasp; evidently, your reading comprehension is as poor as your grammar. Look Bruce, The liar part holds no water, I have said previously, perfection not required on a football forum, just reasonably legible efforts. You seem keen to revisit that point over and over, in a misinformed manner, despite my being clear from my original post on the matter. Why are you doing that? And anyone who announces themselves the way you did as Mr Proof Reader, or was it Professional Proof Reader ? In a nit picky 'I could tear your post apart if I wanted' fashion, well, dont expect that to lead to a quiet life. You are coming off as a real ....... here buddy. And I seem to have gotten under your skin a bit, which delights me. wellyfox !! Look at what you have done, look at your handy work, are you proud of this? Is this what you wanted? Tell me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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