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The drug abusers and alkies really are an epidemic now days. I work in Town and today thought I would eat my lunch at the Fountain.

 

As soon as I arrived, it was full of them, all shouting and arguing amongst eachother. Seen many on my way asking people for change - I have noticed they seek out the elderly, in particular Women. I get frustrated seeing people handover change - Whilst you think it helps, it really doesnt.

 

Last week, I was asked for change whilst walking on the phone. I said no, he kept up with my pace alongside me and asking more and more.

 

They never ask for food, water or anything that you would expect person in genuine homeless conditions would need, always money.

 

Happens every day and it is increasing. Something really does need to be done about it.

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3 minutes ago, Samilktray said:

This country has a weird attitude towards homeless people and those who have fallen on hard times, where everyone’s perfectly happy to look down on them and dehumanise them to an extent 

I think most people in this country look down on and dehumanise everyone but they get away with it more openly with the homeless and drugs addicts...

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17 minutes ago, Samilktray said:

This country has a weird attitude towards homeless people and those who have fallen on hard times, where everyone’s perfectly happy to look down on them and dehumanise them to an extent 

 

This is the problem. Who is legitimetly homeless? Not saying there is none, of course there is and I have sympathy for anyone in genuine distress and will do my bit to help. But the city is rigged with beggars looking for a fix who can become agressive and manipulate to gullable people. They may have fallen on hard times and I cant imagine how difficult it will be to get things back on track, but by giving money to fuel addicitions does not benefit anyone but a drug dealer. It evidently increases the problem rather than resolves it.

 

It's evident some work in groups accomodating certain locations where they are more likely to receive more money. You can see people fighting and arguing over territory. Which in turn does not help people in genuine need of help, who will be bullied away.

 

Our country is lucky to have such provisions and charities in place to help people who have fallen on hard times. In America, you will commonly find people rummaging through bins looking to salvage food, pushing trolley's with their minimal belongings. Here, you get people in flash trainers, carrying 2 mobiles, turning down free sandwiches from passerby's and asking for money instead.  This is what is frustrating.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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53 minutes ago, CollinsLCFC said:

 

This is the problem. Who is legitimetly homeless? Not saying there is none, of course there is and I have sympathy for anyone in genuine distress and will do my bit to help. But the city is rigged with beggars looking for a fix who can become agressive and manipulate to gullable people. They may have fallen on hard times and I cant imagine how difficult it will be to get things back on track, but by giving money to fuel addicitions does not benefit anyone but a drug dealer. It evidently increases the problem rather than resolves it.

 

It's evident some work in groups accomodating certain locations where they are more likely to receive more money. You can see people fighting and arguing over territory. Which in turn does not help people in genuine need of help, who will be bullied away.

 

Our country is lucky to have such provisions and charities in place to help people who have fallen on hard times. In America, you will commonly find people rummaging through bins looking to salvage food, pushing trolley's with their minimal belongings. Here, you get people in flash trainers, carrying 2 mobiles, turning down free sandwiches from passerby's and asking for money instead.  This is what is frustrating.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Have you got any stats to back that up? I don’t doubt there’s c unts doing it because they can but the vast majority of homeless surely, are actually homeless  given their physical state.

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I can only speak from personal experience, but I've never been turned down when offering food/drink to a homeless person. I can't help but think that it's yet another topic that has been skewed by the media and now so many people believe that every other homeless person is raking in multiple hundreds of pounds every day so they suffer even further as a result. My parents come out with that crap all the time about how Tommy the Tramp is on £30,000 p/a and has his BMW parked round the back. 

 

Homelessness is an epidemic that is worsening with every year thanks to cuts and austerity. The notion that they 'get in the way' is appalling.   

 

As an aside, I did once give a homeless lady 2p by mistake (thinking it was a £2 coin) and then when I found the £2 still in my pocket, ran back out of embarrassment. Because I am Captain Awkward. 

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2 hours ago, CollinsLCFC said:

 

 

Our country is lucky to have such provisions and charities in place to help people who have fallen on hard times. In America, you will commonly find people rummaging through bins looking to salvage food, pushing trolley's with their minimal belongings. Here, you get people in flash trainers, carrying 2 mobiles, turning down free sandwiches from passerby's and asking for money instead.  This is what is frustrating.

 

I've seen literally all of that, and more, here too. I see these kind of people every day on my walk to and from work.

 

Anyone's only ever a couple of really poor life decisions away from being on the streets.

 

Anyway, back on topic. As said, Leicester's "problem" with homelessness is no better or worse than any other city of its size in this country.

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Maybe a bit crass I’d rather give a homeless bloke change if he said it was going on booze instead of asking for ‘bus fare’

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Like others have said, would say haven't got any money if a homeless person asked for change.

 

But I've, in the past, given some change to those that actually try to 'promote' themselves in their sad predicament - such as those playing who play their guitar well etc.

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On 04/09/2019 at 12:45, CollinsLCFC said:

The drug abusers and alkies really are an epidemic now days. I work in Town and today thought I would eat my lunch at the Fountain.

 

As soon as I arrived, it was full of them, all shouting and arguing amongst eachother. Seen many on my way asking people for change - I have noticed they seek out the elderly, in particular Women. I get frustrated seeing people handover change - Whilst you think it helps, it really doesnt.

 

Last week, I was asked for change whilst walking on the phone. I said no, he kept up with my pace alongside me and asking more and more.

 

They never ask for food, water or anything that you would expect person in genuine homeless conditions would need, always money.

 

Happens every day and it is increasing. Something really does need to be done about it.

 

Do you mean the Fountain in the town hall square or the Fountain pub on Humberstone gate?

The description could apply to either 😎

 

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2 minutes ago, boots60 said:

 

Do you mean the Fountain in the town hall square or the Fountain pub on Humberstone gate?

The description could apply to either 😎

 

That made me laugh.I used to use the fountain alot(pub) and let's just say there are a few characters.

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St Martin's Square is really picking up, but you can barely go into for an hour without some freak approaching you. I don't mean the homeless, I mean any cretin who's out to get you in some way. I was having a look at the new Mowgli's yesterday evening when some div asked for a "chat" down an alley as he didn't want to shout. Was no-one around lol 

 

I'm a bit mixed on Leicester. Obviously it's nowhere near as good as Nottingham, but it's a far better place than Derby and Coventry. As for our attitude towards the homeless, it's dependant on the person. A lot of them don't help themselves with their approach and you can often quite easily tell those who are genuinely struggling and those who are not. In Italy and Spain, locals won't even look them in the eye.

 

 

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4 hours ago, RonnieTodger said:

St Martin's Square is really picking up, but you can barely go into for an hour without some freak approaching you. I don't mean the homeless, I mean any cretin who's out to get you in some way. I was having a look at the new Mowgli's yesterday evening when some div asked for a "chat" down an alley as he didn't want to shout. Was no-one around lol 

 

I'm a bit mixed on Leicester. Obviously it's nowhere near as good as Nottingham, but it's a far better place than Derby and Coventry. As for our attitude towards the homeless, it's dependant on the person. A lot of them don't help themselves with their approach and you can often quite easily tell those who are genuinely struggling and those who are not. In Italy and Spain, locals won't even look them in the eye.

 

 

We were sitting outside a bar/café in St Martins a while ago and not for the first time, some bible bashing Baptist wandered around preaching "The Word" and intruding on everyone's private time. 

Followed not long after by street drinker asking for money.

 

As for the Town Hall Square... no way would I go there to sit and relax with a drink and a sarnie.

 

Is Soulsby and the council deliberately being liberal with people begging and drinking and annoying regular folk trying to have a nice time in town?

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6 hours ago, RonnieTodger said:

St Martin's Square is really picking up, but you can barely go into for an hour without some freak approaching you. I don't mean the homeless, I mean any cretin who's out to get you in some way. I was having a look at the new Mowgli's yesterday evening when some div asked for a "chat" down an alley as he didn't want to shout. Was no-one around lol 

 

I'm a bit mixed on Leicester. Obviously it's nowhere near as good as Nottingham, but it's a far better place than Derby and Coventry. As for our attitude towards the homeless, it's dependant on the person. A lot of them don't help themselves with their approach and you can often quite easily tell those who are genuinely struggling and those who are not. In Italy and Spain, locals won't even look them in the eye.

 

 

Seems to be the case where there’s quality pockets in the City, it’s just my hope they keep growing and more are created as to spurn the areas around it to pick up their act.

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On 04/09/2019 at 16:32, pSinatra said:

If I was homeless & living in a bush......I'd be getting spiced off my face too

 

About 20 years ago, I used to work at Royal Mail on Campbell Street & every day I'd see the same homeless chap sitting on Granby Street.  I'd always give him some change, but one day I stopped & had a chat with him.  He said he had been senior management at Boots Head Office in Nottingham, but his wife left him, he turned to drink & that was that.  Poor bastard. I didn't care where the money was going that I gave him.  If a bottle of White Lightning got him through the night - good for him. 

There was a very good article in the mercury regards a similar scenario on a homeless person - very critical of the Dawn Centre. 

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Continuing my previous posts with a rather revisionist slant on the City of Leicester - really a dump?

The Boot houses down the Saff and on the Braunstone estate are now only a bad memory among people unfortunate enough to try and make out a life in them.

Henry Boot has a long case history for building wretched jerry-built houses, riddled with damp, cold and a complete disaster for people unfortunate enough to live in them all over the country.

Many places still have problems with Boot houses.

This is what the scousers think of their crap Boot houses, pretty much identikit to the Saff!

The kids in the video actually seem to have their heads screwed on better than most of our politicians - if only they knew it!!!

 

 

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Some taxis, buses and coaches could be charged to use main Leicester road
The radical measure is proposed to tackle harmful engine emissions


ByDan MartinPolitics Reporter
15:08, 25 OCT 2019
NEWS

32 ANPR cameras will monitor the inner ring road


Some taxis, buses, and coaches may have to pay to drive on Leicester’s inner ring road.

The A594, which circles the city centre, is a hotspot for carbon dioxide (NO2) pollution caused largely by exhaust fumes.

Vaughan Way in particular is heavily polluted with NO2 levels above those ordered by the government.

Now city council bosses are planning radical measures to charge cabs and buses using the road if their engines do not meet low polluting standards.

The charges, potentially of £8 a day for taxis and £50 a day for buses, would be enforced by 32 automatic number plate recognition cameras covering key routes onto and within the 3.75 mile inner ring road.

Exact locations for the cameras are still to be determined.

The council keeps the registration and engine model of all the vehicles and would be able to check them against the camera footage to determine if charges should be imposed.

If the plan is approved by the Government the inner ring road will become an enforced clean air zone by summer 2021.


Other traffic using the inner ring road will not be subject to charges.

While bringing in the enforcement the council is to bid for £6 million of Government cash to help owners replace their polluting hackney cabs or private hire cars with cleaner, greener ultra-low emission alternatives.

This would include grants potentially of up to £10,000 for electric hackney cabs and £5,000 for zero emission private hire vehicles.

Smaller grants of up to £1,000 would be available for private hire drivers wanting to change to a hybrid vehicle.

A public consultation on the proposals is due to take place from January 2020.

 

Deputy city mayor for environment and transportation, Adam Clarke, said: “We are determined to continue to accelerate the improvements we’ve seen in recent years and achieve our aim of healthier air for Leicester.

“We’re now recording the lowest levels of NO2 we’ve ever seen and this excellent news.

"But we know we still face challenges to bring the whole city within target limits and we now need to explore some fairly radical measures.

“We’ve been directed by Government to model a variety of different options for a clean air zone.

“Our surveys and studies show that a charging zone for just taxis, buses and coaches will get us over the line in terms of bringing the city within set limits for air pollution.

“That will give us a really solid foundation to build on and further improve air quality in the city.


“We know that taxi drivers will be affected and that’s why our proposal includes a bid for about £6million of funding to offer generous grants to help them make the shift to cleaner, greener vehicles and electric taxis.

“By working closely with the local bus companies, we have already made huge progress in reducing pollution from the city’s buses. We want to extend that work to our local taxi operators.”

The council has also announced a further £730,000 of capital investment in measures designed to further improve air quality in the city.

This includes £170,000 of match-funding for over £650,000 of investment in 28 new electric taxi charging points and 22 charging points in residential streets.

A further £120,000 will be used as match-funding for a £1.1million scheme to accelerate the city’s clean air zone for buses by fitting pollution filters to 168 buses.

It also includes £99,000 to upgrade the city’s existing network of air quality monitoring machines, and a further £100,000 for the council’s Eco-Schools programme.

Around £170,000 will buy four more ultra-low emission vehicles for the council’s own fleet including a new electric hackney cab for the council’s passenger and transport service, which will also be offered as a demonstration vehicle for local taxi operators.

 

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/taxis-buses-coaches-could-charged-3466251

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9 minutes ago, davieG said:

Some taxis, buses and coaches could be charged to use main Leicester road
The radical measure is proposed to tackle harmful engine emissions


ByDan MartinPolitics Reporter
15:08, 25 OCT 2019
NEWS

32 ANPR cameras will monitor the inner ring road


Some taxis, buses, and coaches may have to pay to drive on Leicester’s inner ring road.

The A594, which circles the city centre, is a hotspot for carbon dioxide (NO2) pollution caused largely by exhaust fumes.

Vaughan Way in particular is heavily polluted with NO2 levels above those ordered by the government.

Now city council bosses are planning radical measures to charge cabs and buses using the road if their engines do not meet low polluting standards.

The charges, potentially of £8 a day for taxis and £50 a day for buses, would be enforced by 32 automatic number plate recognition cameras covering key routes onto and within the 3.75 mile inner ring road.

Exact locations for the cameras are still to be determined.

The council keeps the registration and engine model of all the vehicles and would be able to check them against the camera footage to determine if charges should be imposed.

If the plan is approved by the Government the inner ring road will become an enforced clean air zone by summer 2021.


Other traffic using the inner ring road will not be subject to charges.

While bringing in the enforcement the council is to bid for £6 million of Government cash to help owners replace their polluting hackney cabs or private hire cars with cleaner, greener ultra-low emission alternatives.

This would include grants potentially of up to £10,000 for electric hackney cabs and £5,000 for zero emission private hire vehicles.

Smaller grants of up to £1,000 would be available for private hire drivers wanting to change to a hybrid vehicle.

A public consultation on the proposals is due to take place from January 2020.

 

Deputy city mayor for environment and transportation, Adam Clarke, said: “We are determined to continue to accelerate the improvements we’ve seen in recent years and achieve our aim of healthier air for Leicester.

“We’re now recording the lowest levels of NO2 we’ve ever seen and this excellent news.

"But we know we still face challenges to bring the whole city within target limits and we now need to explore some fairly radical measures.

“We’ve been directed by Government to model a variety of different options for a clean air zone.

“Our surveys and studies show that a charging zone for just taxis, buses and coaches will get us over the line in terms of bringing the city within set limits for air pollution.

“That will give us a really solid foundation to build on and further improve air quality in the city.


“We know that taxi drivers will be affected and that’s why our proposal includes a bid for about £6million of funding to offer generous grants to help them make the shift to cleaner, greener vehicles and electric taxis.

“By working closely with the local bus companies, we have already made huge progress in reducing pollution from the city’s buses. We want to extend that work to our local taxi operators.”

The council has also announced a further £730,000 of capital investment in measures designed to further improve air quality in the city.

This includes £170,000 of match-funding for over £650,000 of investment in 28 new electric taxi charging points and 22 charging points in residential streets.

A further £120,000 will be used as match-funding for a £1.1million scheme to accelerate the city’s clean air zone for buses by fitting pollution filters to 168 buses.

It also includes £99,000 to upgrade the city’s existing network of air quality monitoring machines, and a further £100,000 for the council’s Eco-Schools programme.

Around £170,000 will buy four more ultra-low emission vehicles for the council’s own fleet including a new electric hackney cab for the council’s passenger and transport service, which will also be offered as a demonstration vehicle for local taxi operators.

 

https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/taxis-buses-coaches-could-charged-3466251

Guess that nob soulsby will need it after his latest fail pet project 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/leicester-news/tax-payer-fits-500k-bill-3458008.amp

 

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