JimJams

Don't know why but I'm surprised how good that Dutch side looks on paper. 

Just now, Grebfromgrebland said:

So no change there then

Exactly.  We've been so far behind everyone else for a few years now.  When it's evident we're shit at the pass it to death stuff we won't even have stamina, physicality and fitness to fall back on.

Aside from the obvious keep ball shit, one of the biggest concerns is that he doesn't get his teams fit according to literally every fan of every club he's managed.

9 hours ago, Deeg67 said:

There's ten Harry Souttars out there.

Shit.  That's going to devalue the one we've got.

It's not Gary, stay gone!

54 minutes ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said:

If we sign Bazanu then I pray Iran strikes Seagrave 

He wasn't a Martin signing so hopefully he only got the games because he was already there and not cos Mr Pinder liked the look of him.

We need Bruss to convert Skipp into a ball playing CB, he's the same height as Lisandro Martinez so I'm having none of the shortarse excuses.

Just now, PaddyS said:

Where else would he get the chance to immediately bring in 6-7 of his own style of player

Well not here...

If he wants to get fans onside, and that'll be a task in itself, he HAS to bring through our young players.  Not just as part timers, but putting some of them front and centre.  Aluko and Page being the obvious pairing, given it looks like Monga is well gone.

The Cooper window crippled us.  Effectively fxxked the budget for years overspending on shit players who we couldn't hope to move on.

Didn't know where was most relevant to put this so...

I'll be honest, despite watching Martins teams I'm still a bit on the dark about his actual "Style" that people keep mentioning.

For me, I've always seen him as someone who has fashioned himself as a bit of a Pep disciple with none of the understanding about what that entails.

The idea that keeping the ball means the opposition have less/no opportunity to score, I get that, that's obvious.  But I don't actually know what his supposed patterns of play are, they've never been evident while watching his teams.  I've seen people say he likes to get his (whole) team in the opponents half, so the passing build up is supposedly with the players gradually moving into the other half.  I've not seen that work with anybody, let alone a Russell Martin side.

Maresca played a possession heavy game, but there was at least a plan to draw players out of position to create and exploit space (kind of falls short when the other team doesn't go chasing the ball) but I have never really seen that with Southampton, definitely not with Rangers. It's always just come across to me as someone who latched onto a key part of a successful mans philosophy but only got part of it without any rhyme or reason as to why they pass it around.  Essentially pass for passings sake. because you didn't get the rest of the idea.

Game over! Maybe.

Really good strike.

5 minutes ago, OntarioFox said:

So sad to know Souttar is going to get back from this World Cup adventure to find Russell Martin waiting for him. No way in a million years he'll stick around with that BTEC Rodgers chancer in charge. 

I don't think he'll stick around no matter who is in charge.  Nobody wants to play in League One, regardless of the manager.

Though right now Aus are playing a little suicide football out from the back, so Martin might already have planted a seed!

Well let's hope us and the consensus of the wider footballing world are completely wrong and he isn't an absolutely clueless chancer who can talk a good game.

1 minute ago, ozleicester said:

45 minutes of panicked hoofball now  

If you keep forcing Turkey wide you should be able to deal with anything they throw at you.  Then big Soutts wins it from a corner, game done.

17 minutes ago, Dan said:

Souttar is so much better than any centre half of ours it's unbelievable. How has he had this little of a look in? I know he's had injuries but he could definitely have played more.

Before his injury playing for Sheffield Utd, yes he could have played more for us.  Post injury I don't know how anybody could come to that conclusion.

To be fair, have Qatar been robbed?

'Merica 

FXXK YEAH!

I don't know who's in control of the graphic overlay but I did notice that when they were checking the penalty the graphic specifically said "VAR Check : Penalty" rather than "VAR Check : Offside" which probably has no bearing on anything, but given the outcome makes you wonder if they even checked the offside.

Shut your fccking cxxt mouth Matterface.

So the keeper got a booking, a penalty against AND a concussion, for an offside attack.

U S A,

U S A!

The fxxk?

Has the VAR only checked that it was a foul or something? Automated offsides not working?