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7 minutes ago, Trav Le Bleu said:

Blackburn.

Leeds 

Nottingham Forest

 

 

Not saying we're not badly run, but we're hardly unique.

I think Blackburn are different as they spent heavily via a wealthy owner and once he passed on, the money dried up and they have found their natural level since. Leeds won the league in 1992 and stayed in the prem for another 12 seasons including 7 top 5 finishes before dropping down. Forest won the league in 1978 and had 14 subsequent seasons in the top flight and 5 top 5 finishes.

Our decline after Vichai's passing was much more sudden. It was only the recruitment under Macia & Puel that bought us some time and paved the way for another successful couple of years under Rodgers before the rot set in.

I am a bit suprised at the length of contract - has the caretaker vibe about it which might not encourage total buy in. An 18 month deal better with maybe a relegation break clause. Probably amounts to the same thing if he gets an extension for survival. Let's hope he goes well and gets us looking more solid.

5 minutes ago, lfu said:

French media are having a field day

The Canal+ commentator apparently kept calling him "Fesse" ("buttock") instead of Faes, and Sofoot rated his performance at 3/10 with the caption "His head in his surname" (i.e. up his arse) 😂

Funny until you realise he will be coming back next year and drawing his £50k per week salary in League 1...

2 minutes ago, Long Eaton Fox said:

Everyone happy with this?

The board ard so slow and ponderous that by the end of the process, after day after day of refreshing browsers and looking at bettting odds, we would feel just happy to have a proper manager in place. Over 3 weeks to get this sorted is unforgivable in our situation. I hope he goes well though. 

The optics are wrong on this when we have no manager. Only role to be filled before the managerial one is the Technical Director. It screams we have more interest in selling merchandise and breaking into new markets than stabilising the football operation.

Only our muckwit owners would appoint a marketing man to a key position when fans are expecting a managerial announcement after an 18 day search in the middle of a relegation battle that could put the future of the club in doubt. You could not make this up.

For those who haven't watched it, the key takeaway is: relegation = liquidation.

We are in a large financial hole at the minute and relegation to L1 puts us on the edge of oblivion it seems.

3 minutes ago, Iran said:

Well clearly we didn't have a replacement lined up... Would you rather have risked it with Marti and allowed him to figure it out or an Andy King with no managerial history?

 

Statistically, I know what I've would've chosen. 

I think we are saying the same thing. There has been absolutely no value in moving from Cooper > RvN > Marti > King. We would be in a stronger position at this point if we had kept Cooper. Not to mention the millions it has cost.

3 minutes ago, Iran said:

Honestly should've just stuck by Marti at this point...

At this point we should have stuck with Cooper.

24 minutes ago, BenTheFox said:

I'd give you a lift to and from each protest if you want mate. Strength in numbers. 

Sounds good to me.

I think the first mistake is setting 1 off games to protest. They can ride that out then back to normal. It's got to be consistent and easy to follow and join in. I like others are boycotting matches and merchandise but would come down. I live in Notts so wouldn't come every match but if it's consistent then people can attend when available.

I think we need to have a protest at every home game at the same time and location so the organising of it becomes easier and consistent. For instance an hour before each game outside the directors entrance. In theory it should gain traction. 

8 hours ago, Taz_The_Fox said:

No one in their right mind would come here right now. There is no saving this squad they are all mentally checked out. Much like the team that got us relegated from the Prem the first time around. 

 

The culture in the club stinks 

The only chance we have got of getting a decent manager is if he agrees to the job on the basis that he brings his own Technical Director with final say on recruitment & contracts. That would take 80% of the footballing decisions from the owners. But does that just let Khunt off and bury the problem? 

Just now, RumbleFox said:

I’m basically just laughing now. 

Why?

You know your team is the pits when Luke Thomas is not the worst full back.

Club is a joke. Absolute clown fest. 

We need an organised and concerted effort to force a sale. Is that led by Project Reset or the Foxes Trust I don't know. There are enough fans who want them out now to exert serious pressure, it just feels like it needs to be a unified campaign that is consistent and measured. They simply have to be forced to sell up - they are washed as the kids say.

We are going to get relegated in this pink kit aren't we?

The IQ of these players is ridiculous. Going absolutely nowhere. Similar to Ramsey at Oxford. Idiot.

5 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

Is Nige a winner? Always felt he was a builder. Teams improve after he goes (certainly in the short term).

 

Still not sure Nigel coming back is the answer. But, i'm struggling to remember what the question is half the time.

Well he won the Championship with record points and he built a team that was good enough to win trophies, all with modest budgets. His mentality would be to come to work every day and give everything and be bettervthan the day before. Alien concepts to the Chuckle Brothers in charge.

I think the only reasonable answer is for then club to be sold but I am sure Nige could come in and save us from League 1.

1 hour ago, Loxm98 said:

From what I heard (from a reputable journalist) pearson would come back in a heartbeat but club havent spoken to him at all - think owynn also reported this. Think there is some 'beef' between pearson and the hierarchy after Whelan departure.

 

Always got the impression Pearson was close with Whelan and Vichai, not Top and Rudkin.

I couldn't possibly imagine any reasons why Nige would get on with Top or Rudders. Nige is a winner, a man of class and integrity who wants to do things the right way. The other 2 have minimal moral fibre and are losers in every aspect of their existence except maybe their bank accounts. 

It seems like our main hopes of staying up are in the hands of young kids who have no experience of men's football. What sad and depressing times.